You will love me more than anything else, or many bad things will happen to you.

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I had a dream a few months ago, it was a strange dream, I was laying down in my reclining chair one night getting ready for sleep and for some reason suddenly I felt very relaxed and at peace, I remember I couldn't help but smile for some reason, and I remember I couldn't control myself from falling asleep, so I nodded off very quickly.

In my dream was my grandmother, whom I love very dearly, she told me I could stay there with her, and in the distance I saw a tower with a cross on the top, it was white and beautiful. I told her, no, I must go to Jesus. So I walked down from a steep hill in my dream to get to this tower, and all of the sudden lions came out, and I felt like I should keep my faith in God that he would protect me from the lions, so I tried, and I failed a few times, and they would bite me. In my dream it didn't really hurt me much or do anything. When I found the faith that God would protect me they would back away, but I found the faith slipping, and they would attack again.

Anyways, I got up to the tower, it was a spiral staircase going up, so I walked up it, and was greeted by a strange creature, almost seemed like an alien. It didn't look human, and it was a short creature with strange clothes on, he said "You should have went the other way" then another one said "follow me, this is the way out." so I followed him, and I came to a stage it was white, and a chair was on it. There upon the chair was Jesus Christ, I just fell on my knees, I felt I had too, like I had no choice, my legs just gave out on me, Jesus stood up and told me this - "I can't hope to understand you, but you will love me more than anything, or many bad things will happen to you"

Why is Jesus threatening me in my dreams? What do you think this means? It seems like ever since I've been trying to get closer to God strange things keep happening to me, visions, dreams, signs, it's driving me mad, and I feel really depressed and hopeless, like God is tormenting me.
 

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"I can't hope to understand you, but you will love me more than anything, or many bad things will happen to you"


I have an issue with this. Jesus would NEVER say something like that. The Lord understands ALL things. Nor would He threaten you UNLESS you are actively rebelling against Him.


This dream is not from God in my honest opinion. The Devil is trying to discourage you.


If something doesn't like up with scripture, don't believe it.
 
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This is a false Jesus indeed. The words he spoke were lies.

The Jesus of Nazareth (the Messiah/annointed One) understands you perfectly!!! Many scriptures tell us that we are fully known and that God knows our thoughts, ways, etc.

How long have you been a believer?
What kind of background do you come from?
Any interest in UFO's, the occult, wicca, secret clubs/organizations etc?
 
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UFO's. Why? I always had an interest in aliens and the like - I remember one night when I was a atheist in my younger years and in a lot of emotional pain I looked up at the sky and asked if anyone was up there, I called out to aliens, asking if they are there, to please help me. I have a psychological illness that cannot be cured with current human medical science, I was hoping perhaps if some entity was up there they could help me with it. Be careful what you wish for I guess. They probably answered the call but they have far worse things in mind for me than help. Yeah, maybe I am a little nutty, but I wouldn't be surprised if aliens do exist.
 
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UFO's. Why? I always had an interest in aliens and the like - I remember one night when I was a atheist in my younger years and in a lot of emotional pain I looked up at the sky and asked if anyone was up there, I called out to aliens, asking if they are there, to please help me. I have a psychological illness that cannot be cured with current human medical science, I was hoping perhaps if some entity was up there they could help me with it. Be careful what you wish for I guess. They probably answered the call but they have far worse things in mind for me than help. Yeah, maybe I am a little nutty, but I wouldn't be surprised if aliens do exist.

That wasn't Jesus. The Lord knows you better than you know yourself. If you have a dream where you think you've heard something from God, see if it matches scripture. If it doesn't, it is from Satan, and this dream doesn't match scripture. It's a dream from the enemy to destroy your faith. Pray before you go to bed that the Lord would protect you from the enemy and give you pleasant and peaceful dreams that are founded on the truth. As for UFOs, check out this video:

Unholy Communion The Unwanted Piece of the UFO Puzzle - YouTube
 
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It seems like ever since I've been trying to get closer to God strange things keep happening to me, visions, dreams, signs, it's driving me mad, and I feel really depressed and hopeless, like God is tormenting me....

I always had an interest in aliens and the like - I remember one night when I was a atheist in my younger years and in a lot of emotional pain I looked up at the sky and asked if anyone was up there, I called out to aliens, asking if they are there, to please help me. I have a psychological illness that cannot be cured with current human medical science, I was hoping perhaps if some entity was up there they could help me with it. Be careful what you wish for I guess. They probably answered the call but they have far worse things in mind for me than help. Yeah, maybe I am a little nutty, but I wouldn't be surprised if aliens do exist.


Don’t be discouraged. What's happening is exactly what is supposed to happen. You’ve made a decision to get closer to God, so now the hidden error from your past is surfacing:

But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible -Eph 5:13
As you approach God's perfect light (Jam 1.17), the hidden things of darkness are forced out. This dream shows "alien" forces posing as Christ in order to place you under law and submission. But the true Christ, the meek and lowly One (Mt 11.28-30), gave Himself for the joy set before Him (Heb 12.2)- that is, to set you free:

For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. -Gal 5.1
This stuff is being revealed to you so that you can deal with it and get rid of it forever. Then you will be truly Christ's, and He yours, just as you already are if you have sincerely made the Good Confession of Romans 10:9-10.

The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent -Acts 17:30

The time of ignorance is over. That's what this dream is about. Now you are responsible for renouncing the error and pledging your loyalty to Christ alone. Then you will receive the commendation of Christ, which is true and lasts forever.

Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. -1Cor 4:5

The Lord has come, and the error is being judged. Remember, you already have the victory in Christ over every evil spirit, every false worker. Do not fear their threats and intimidation. Stand firm in Christ.

When you do, know that you are in the hands of the Great Physician, who can do things concerning your infirmity that no human doctor could dream of. But take it one step at a time, and deal with what's on your plate.
 
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the whole alien abuduction thing is a doctrine of demons that the Apostle Paul warned us about in the later times. They are deceiving spirits. Confess to Jesus that you called out to this alien entity and tell Jesus that you have turned from this and that Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the One True Son of the Most High God. This confession is not because God is legalistic, but the accuser of the brethren is extremely legalistic and this gives them permission to harrass you. You opened yourself up to them- we all have in one way or another. This is not to condemn you. We have all messed up and Jesus loves us in spite of our messes. YOU ARE LOVED DEEPLY< FULLY ACCEPTED and the Lord takes great delight in you.
 
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I totaly agree with Kimmiemae,

Time to renounce what you did unknowingly back then, with no feelings of blame or guilt. You did not know any better. God is not angry with you for doing that.

For the safety and soundness of your spiritual, mental, and physical health, you do need to renounce it, because you invited this in and gave permission to a spirit other than the Lord Jesus. Bind it and cast it out saying the words "in the name of Jesus and by power of the blood of Jesus, I bind you and cast you out". Then ask the Holy Spirit to clean that area within you and to come and fill that space with His Spirit forever.

There is no mental disorder that man can have, that God cannot heal while we are still here on earth. Pray daily for your full healing. Read all the scripture you can find about being of sound mind (Philippians is a good place to start) and read about all of the healings that Jesus performed. At one point He fully healed a man that was completely out of his mind running naked in the cemetery (Luke 8). He will show up for you and He will bring you healing if you want it.

I say "if you want it" because some people link thier identity to the disorder they have, and they can sometimes tend to use it as an excuse or a buffer for things they can't do or don't want to face. I am not saying you are one that does that, but it is an extremely common phenomenon. Even some cancer patients have an identity crises when they are healed of cancer, because they let it become part of "who they are".


II Tim. 1:7 says, "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and a sound mind.". Post that one on your morning mirror. God be with you. I will pray for you today, and whenever the Lord brings you to my mind.
 
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It seems like ever since I've been trying to get closer to God strange things keep happening to me, visions, dreams, signs, it's driving me mad, and I feel really depressed and hopeless, like God is tormenting me.
Try to hold back the temptation to get visions and signs that other people claim to get. If God sends a miracle, there will be a reason behind it -- He does not randomly bless us with powers.

In your dream, you first saw the tower as a distant goal to head toward.

Did you read the dream about Jesus with the red sash? I think there are similarities in how Christianity is presented in a deceptive way.

I don't think the alien was meant to be literal in the dream, but maybe an association with curiosities you've researched. You accepted this unusual figure as your guide to the Living Word, assuming that was the proper thing to do.

As said above, the words that came out of Jesus' mouth were out of character. I think this is a reminder to cling to God's Word like your life depended on it. If we don't anchor ourselves in God's truth, we could spend a lot of time on long journeys that take us to the wrong destinations.
 
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There are a few things that really stand out to me in your dream. First, your grandmother who is telling you that you can stay with her. At first I thought you siad that she said you couldn't stay with her, but I read it again and saw that she said you CAN stay with her. After reading the rest of the dream, it really bothered me. I am with everyone else on this is not Jesus in your dream. I feel that the use of your grandmother who is someone you love so dearly and feel safe around is a big way to deceive you. 2 Corinthians 11:14 says, "And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." So why wouldn't a demonic spirit try to use someone you love to help to deceive you. I'm sure your grandmother seemed like an angel to you. I know mine did.

The lions in your dream immediately made me think of the scripture in 1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour." And you said those lions were trying to attack you every time your faith seemed weak. The lion bites didn't hurt you though. Job 4:10 The roaring of the lion,The voice of the fierce lion,and the teeth of the young lions are broken." And you did exactly what David did, you put your trust in the Lord.
Psalm 7:1-2 O Lord my God, in You I put my trust; Save me from all those who persecute me; And deliver me, Lest they tear me like a lion, Rending me in pieces, while there is none to deliver." In this part of the dream, I feel like there is a great message: you need to build up your faith in order to help you during attacks of the enemy. And don't you find when you are going through trials, that many of us draw on God? But if we were stronger before the attacks, we might not have to endure so much from the attack, but could rest knowing the Lord is in control, and we have the strength to battle. So build yourself up in your faith.


I do believe the aliens are definitely demons. They know their fate, and they even gave you a warning there, "You should have gone the other way." Then another one says, "Follow me, this is the way out." There again, they are trying to deceive you. There is only one WAY, and his name is Jesus Christ! You know demons will speak partial truths in a way to try to deceive you. One tells you that you went the wrong way, and immediately the other one is trying to deceive you again by trying to get you to follow him to the "way out". But really that is a path to destruction, because Jesus is the WAY. Jesus would not threaten you. God corrects us, He chastens us in a way to bring us back to Him, but never does He threaten us. He is a gentleman, He is love. Correction yes, threaten no. This in your dream was the deceiver. Do not listen to him.



I noticed your other post where you were responding to someone and you said you had a mental condition that has not been able to be cured by men's medicines. Remember that the stripes Jesus bore are for your healing. They gave Him 39 lashes. Do you know there are 39 major categories of diseases that all diseases fall under? Every disease, every sickness that there is falls under these categories. Those stripes provided healing for every one of them. It has already been done. I do believe God uses doctors, but I also believe in divine healing. I, myself, was healed from a disease that there is no cure. But God! I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you need to pray this prayer, quote this Scripture or that Scripture. I'm not going to tell you that you don't have enough faith to be healed. I had people tell me all this, and all it did was make me feel like I was not good enough, and it made me feel awful, and I felt bad for even going up for prayer anymore even though everyone told me to go up every time. Because I did go up at for prayer every time, and then the murmuring began. "Oh there she goes again. She just doesn't have enough faith. Well, you're not quoting the right Scriptures. You need to pray this prayer or that prayer." Blah, blah, blah. What I will tell you is this: The Word of God is our sword. Hebrews 4:12 "For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." It is our power and our weapon to use against the enemy. I believe every person has to get a revelation of what God is for them and what He did for them. I had a revelation as I was lying in a hospital bed after my doctor told me I was going to die this way. For me personally, I am a very visual person, so I had a revelation. Every time I experience pain in my body, which was constant from the disease I had, I was going to put in the movie "The Passion of the Christ". I was going to the part where Jesus was taking His stripes, and when I watched it, I was going to remember He did that for ME! And let me tell you what happened. Not once, did I have to put that movie in. The revelation was already there, and I think that it threatened the enemy that I knew that I was healed. I had believed that I was healed since February 2005. And I got to the point that when someone came up to tell me the same old thing, that I didn't have enough faith, that I wasn't quoting the right Scriptures, that I wasn't praying the right prayers, I stopped them right away. I told them, "I KNOW that God has healed me. Why it hasn't manifested in my body at this time, I do not know or understand. But I know when it does manifest in my body, it will be a testimony for Him." My healing mainifested in October 2005 after having my revelation, after my doctor told me I was going to die like this. The devil is a liar. I don't know what type of revelation that you need. Let me just tell you, your healing has been provided. You are healed. You were healed! 1 Peter 2:21-24 "For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps: “Who committed no sin,
Nor was deceit found in His mouth”; who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed." It's already been done. Thank God for healing you. Use your sword. And ask the Lord to heal you, believing you have received. Mark 11:24 "Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them." Your healing is there. Praying for you!
 
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They gave Him 39 lashes. Do you know there are 39 major categories of diseases that all diseases fall under? Every disease, every sickness that there is falls under these categories.
Great factoid. And inspiring testimony of your healing!

From Darkness, Notice also how the hill was steep to get to the tower. That is like a religious system which requires a lot of work to climb to the top, or to access God. God has not set things up like that for us. In fact, He says the last will be first and the first last. Redemption was paid once, for all, so there is no striving to attain acceptance from Him.

All of these comments about your dream were not intended to correct your dreaming, I'm sure -- but to bring out how God might be showing you a deception to watch out for.
 
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Hey Jenklow , Thanks so much for the word about believing for your healing!!! I have been healed many times. Currenly I am waiting for healing to manifest and I believe so I know EXACTLY what you mean. It is a struggle. I know God is so good and that my healing is on its way and I was healed and I am healed and I will be healed again in the future. Amen.
 
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For the sake of truth, I feel compelled to let you know that there are far more disease catagories than 39. The ICD9 books we use to bill insurance companies is about 3 1/2 inches thick. There is a list on this site, but I am not sure if that includes all of them.

Types of All Disease Categories - RightDiagnosis.com

The only place I find in the Word that refers to the 39 stripes, was Paul saying that he received that in his beatings (2 Corinthians 11:24 "forty minus one"), and in Deuteronomy 25:1-4 which might explain why the 39 instead of forty is delivered. "When people have a dispute, they are to take it to court and the judges will decide the case, acquitting the innocent and condemning the guilty. 2 If the guilty person deserves to be beaten, the judge shall make them lie down and have them flogged in his presence with the number of lashes the crime deserves, 3 but the judge must not impose more than forty lashes. If the guilty party is flogged more than that, your fellow Israelite will be degraded in your eyes. "

These two references are about persecution, judgment and guilt.....not healing. If anyone knows of a scripture that says Jesus received 39 stripes, could you share that with me?
 
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It is actually what the Jews practiced. They could give 40 stripes, but in fear they might miscount and give one too many, they only gave 39. Sammy Hinn, Benny Hinn's brother taught on the 39 categories of diseases several years ago. I thought it was pretty cool. I understand there are more diseases than we could know about, but he said all diseases fall into those 39 categories.
 
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I don't feel anything that I said was leading anyone astray. In fact it pointed right to Jesus and the stripes he took upon his back for our healing. So this whole conversation was pointless. Honestly, it doesn't matter if there are 39 categories of diseases or an infinite amount. It doesn't matter how many stripes Jesus took. The fact is healing has been provided for ALL diseases and ALL sickness. And that is the truth!
 
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