ACORN Exposed As Players Behind Occupy Wall Street Protests

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Have you known Fox to forgo a target simply because it was easy?
I have no idea.

But I have known MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et. al. to forego a story because the truth would damage the party or one of its members. Absolutely. I've also known them to pursue with viciousness any story that would damage the opposition, despite its lack of veracity... again, absolutely.
 
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I have no idea.

But I have known MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et. al. to forego a story because the truth would damage the party or one of its members. Absolutely. I've also known them to pursue with viciousness any story that would damage the opposition, despite its lack of veracity... again, absolutely.


So do what I do, don't trust any of them.
 
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Here's why Fox's articles differ http://www.christianforums.com/t7571924/
By the way, near the end of that discussion I think I heard one of the pro-Foxers cursing your name in his dying breath. Where were you GraspingTAW? They needed you and you didn't help them defend Fox. It really was a massacre in there.

Why would I defend Fox? I have little knowledge of their news operation as I don't have cable tv. I only have seen them at times in doctors offices or other such places where there are waiting rooms. I couldn't tell you if they are right wing propagandists or not from the small amount of exposure that I have had to them. Because so many here have accused them of it I have decided to take it as a given without proving it for myself because it is currently norm for a news organization to be bias and to allow those biases to color their reporting. I am much more familiar with the incessant left wing slant that is called journalism in the NY Times, Buffalo News and network television. I find the criticism of Fox for being propagandist by those using the exact same sort of tactics to be laughable. Propaganda is only bad if it is right wing propaganda. Left wing propaganda is concerned journalism.
 
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Probably Fox News, since ACORN no longer exists... :doh:

"Well, what do you think, Doctor?"

"it's obviously a massive case of Kool-Aid ingestion."

"There's no hope, then?"

"I'm afraid it looks grave...."
 
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The Occupy Wall Street protesters are protesting corporate greed and excessive corporate influence in our government. They are arrayed against the Exxon's, Bank of Americas, and News Corporations of the world... so why would anyone be surprised that an organization like Faux News would be attacking the Occupy Wall Street protesters?

If that weren't enough, the fact that these corporations constantly smear organizations of low and moderate income families who try to make their neighborhood a better place (like ACORN) should be enough to make it clear that they are not to be trusted.
 
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The Occupy Wall Street protesters are protesting corporate greed and excessive corporate influence in our government.

So they think they'll change things for the better by spray-painting anarchist slogans across the screens of ATM machines, blockading ports, raping women in public parks, and defecating on police cars.

Wouldn't have been my chosen method, but okay, whatever. Even Hitler was smart enough to figure out he had to work within the system in order to destroy it.
 
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Why would I defend Fox? I have little knowledge of their news operation as I don't have cable tv. I only have seen them at times in doctors offices or other such places where there are waiting rooms. I couldn't tell you if they are right wing propagandists or not from the small amount of exposure that I have had to them. Because so many here have accused them of it I have decided to take it as a given without proving it for myself because it is currently norm for a news organization to be bias and to allow those biases to color their reporting. I am much more familiar with the incessant left wing slant that is called journalism in the NY Times, Buffalo News and network television. I find the criticism of Fox for being propagandist by those using the exact same sort of tactics to be laughable. Propaganda is only bad if it is right wing propaganda. Left wing propaganda is concerned journalism.

Well that's why I mentioned the other thread. The discussion and evidence brought up in that thread showed an obvious bias for Fox headlines. No wiggle room at all.

I agree that most news organizations have a slight liberal bias, but it isn't done intentionally as it is with Fox. No other cable news source has been proven to be a liberal propaganda source as Fox has been proved to be a conservative one. People pretending that Fox has the same right slant as CNN has a left slant are not being truthful, or are deluded.

Liberal views becomes more prevalent the more educated one becomes and smarter kids are more usually liberal and seek more education (it's a nasty cycle). It's the nature of the desire to learn and try new things. Most people on TV are above average intellectually simply through competition for high profile, high paying jobs. The more educated people get the best jobs in competitive fields, thus more liberals will have the best jobs in journalism. Although liberals are the majority, few of them go to work each day and think how they can best slant the news to their own opinions. A bit of their views creep in anyway, but only Fox has been proven to have a mandate to slant their stories.

If you disagree, show me where I'm wrong.
 
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Well that's why I mentioned the other thread. The discussion and evidence brought up in that thread showed an obvious bias for Fox headlines. No wiggle room at all.

I agree that most news organizations have a slight liberal bias, but it isn't done intentionally as it is with Fox. No other cable news source has been proven to be a liberal propaganda source as Fox has been proved to be a conservative one. People pretending that Fox has the same right slant as CNN has a left slant are not being truthful, or are deluded.

Liberal views becomes more prevalent the more educated one becomes and smarter kids are more usually liberal and seek more education (it's a nasty cycle). It's the nature of the desire to learn and try new things. Most people on TV are above average intellectually simply through competition for high profile, high paying jobs. The more educated people get the best jobs in competitive fields, thus more liberals will have the best jobs in journalism. Although liberals are the majority, few of them go to work each day and think how they can best slant the news to their own opinions. A bit of their views creep in anyway, but only Fox has been proven to have a mandate to slant their stories.

If you disagree, show me where I'm wrong.


You make broad, unsubstantiated and frankly obnoxiously bigotted, stereotypical and arrogant statements and expect me to take the time to disprove them? Do your own work and prove that you are right. Here's just one that is easily dismissed liberals learning and trying new things.Ask a liberal what should be done with education in 1960- more money-ed gets more money and gets worse 1970 liberals say-more money- ed gets more money and gets worse 1980 liberals say- more money -ed gets more money and gets worse 1990- liberals say- more money etc. ditto 2000 and 2010. definition of insanity- liberal education policies.

I think your attitude above is probably typical of the bias of the media we were discussing and it is no wonder that they have no need to actually plan out their slant as it comes so naturally they aren't even aware of how pervasive it is and would probably be insulted if you mentioned it to them.

If you disagree, show me where I am wrong.
 
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I have no idea.
Well, of course not.

But I have known MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN et. al. to forego a story because the truth would damage the party or one of its members. Absolutely. I've also known them to pursue with viciousness any story that would damage the opposition, despite its lack of veracity... again, absolutely.
Which story was that?
 
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I don't know what ACORN is, but why do Fox have a thing against it?

ACORN was a group of community organizers who were helping low income and inner city people in finding jobs, health care issues, telling how they can effect the country by voting, doing voter registeration and generally speaking helping the inner city poor people.
The people they got to register to voting were mainly voting for Democratic party, and Obama mentioned having been a community organizer. So the smear campaign started and it ended up with ACORN getting dismantled thanks to certain conservative journalist flat out lying about ACORN helping with people engaged in human trafficing and child sex slavery by making things up and editing videos to make it look like that. Fox spread it as gospel and ACORN ended up getting defunded. Of course, later on it was revealed that it had been lies but by then ACORN had ceased to exist and Fox has been reporting pretty much every month for the past few years how ACORN is this massive shadowy organization trying to destroy democracy by various ways.
It's just a load of dog-whistle politics.
 
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You make broad, unsubstantiated and frankly obnoxiously bigotted, stereotypical and arrogant statements and expect me to take the time to disprove them? Do your own work and prove that you are right. Here's just one that is easily dismissed liberals learning and trying new things.Ask a liberal what should be done with education in 1960- more money-ed gets more money and gets worse 1970 liberals say-more money- ed gets more money and gets worse 1980 liberals say- more money -ed gets more money and gets worse 1990- liberals say- more money etc. ditto 2000 and 2010. definition of insanity- liberal education policies.

I think your attitude above is probably typical of the bias of the media we were discussing and it is no wonder that they have no need to actually plan out their slant as it comes so naturally they aren't even aware of how pervasive it is and would probably be insulted if you mentioned it to them.

If you disagree, show me where I am wrong.
You'e wrong.
Here's some major publications that have evidence that on average, liberals are smarter than conservatives:
Study Shows Liberals, Atheists, And Monogamous Have Higher IQ's
Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives? — The American Magazine
In Search of Ideologues in America - Pew Research Center

There are dozens more, but being a liberal makes me smart (yes it's a cross I have to bear) and I know that you will only dismiss anything I post as you already "know" the truth (much like Clarence Thomas). Why should I post all the dozens of other papers when you will just poo-poo anything that doesn't agree with your mindset?

Now you shouldn't get in a huff and ironically if you only understood the principle behind this conservative/liberal intelligence gap, you might find that you're actually proud to be conservative.
http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/i...Napier Jost Why Are Conservatives Happier.pdf
That paper from Harvard shows that conservatives are happier than liberals. Might even say that they are blissfully conservative.
 
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So there is a small number of anarchist fish attempting to promote anarchy by swimming in the safety of rivers of protesters. That's nothing new, 99.9% of the protesters are peaceful and careful not to harm private property. When people come up with such feeble and transparent smears, I always wonder why their now trying to discredit their own position.

The occupy protests aren't looking to destroy anything, they simply hope that if enough people speak up we'll take some common sense steps to properly regulate the banking industry and limit corporate influence over government.

So they think they'll change things for the better by spray-painting anarchist slogans across the screens of ATM machines, blockading ports, raping women in public parks, and defecating on police cars.

Wouldn't have been my chosen method, but okay, whatever. Even Hitler was smart enough to figure out he had to work within the system in order to destroy it.
 
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So who is, exactly, the originator of OWS? Because I've heard the following:

1. President Obama - to distract us from his satanic agenda.
2. Elizabeth Warren - that socialist who....eh, never mind.
3. The Nazis - because Hitler would approve.
4. ACORN - so they can register a bunch of people to vote for Obama.
5. The Black Panthers - because nothing screams "The Black Panthers did this!" more than a predominantly white crowd.
6. George Soros - because everything is his fault.
7. The Devil - because only he could orchestrate something so evil as a protest about helping the poor.
8. Bill Ayers - because he does everything for Obama, even writes his books for him.
9. The Mafia - because Teamsters have been at some of the rallies.
10. The police - just to have an excuse to get a bunch of hippies and homeless people in one place and then arrest them.
11. Saul Alinsky - oh, wait...he's dead.

You know who I think is really behind all of this?

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That's right - Vengeance Dad. Just behold the look in his eyes. You just know he's up to something sinister.
 
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So who is, exactly, the originator of OWS? Because I've heard the following:

1. President Obama - to distract us from his satanic agenda.
2. Elizabeth Warren - that socialist who....eh, never mind.
3. The Nazis - because Hitler would approve.
4. ACORN - so they can register a bunch of people to vote for Obama.
5. The Black Panthers - because nothing screams "The Black Panthers did this!" more than a predominantly white crowd.
6. George Soros - because everything is his fault.
7. The Devil - because only he could orchestrate something so evil as a protest about helping the poor.
8. Bill Ayers - because he does everything for Obama, even writes his books for him.
9. The Mafia - because Teamsters have been at some of the rallies.
10. The police - just to have an excuse to get a bunch of hippies and homeless people in one place and then arrest them.
11. Saul Alinsky - oh, wait...he's dead.

You know who I think is really behind all of this?

vengeance-dad-funeral-240x180.jpg


That's right - Vengeance Dad. Just behold the look in his eyes. You just know he's up to something sinister.

Haha, this post made me laugh. Thanks for highlighted how absurd some people are when blaming others for the OWS movement, when they have nothing to do with it!
 
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