Sin

Leah · Aug 8, 2009

Yall, please bear with me cuz I need to get some things off my chest. You really don't even need to respond to what I'm about to say.

I hate sin, but when it comes to my own, its like I can't let go of that which I know is not good for my spirit nor pleases God. I say and do things that I know aren't right but do it anyways and have been struggling with this for quite some time now. It really sucks because I've put myself in my own prison of bondage and feel like screaming!

God said that it aint over till He says its over. But I need to get out of this funk I'm in before its too late. I'm not even trying to go to hell or be left behind when Christ comes back for His church!

So....I guess the only question to ask myself is how much do I really love God? Enough to quit sinning and be obediante? Or just enough to get into heaven?

Sometimes looking at yourself in the mirror and admitting your failures is the hardest thing to do.

the.Sheepdog · Aug 8, 2009

Their are the two you's. The physical you and the spirit you.

The physical you is locked in this world and will not get out alive. It is subject to the laws of this world like gravity and sin. Paul said he sinned even when he didnt want to. But he knew it was not him but his body.

It happens. You are forgiven. when your spirit goes home to the Father He will only see a pure clean spirit. why? Because Jesus gave all to make it that way.

Dont beat yourself up when you fail. we all do. pick yourself up, dust off and set off again. Let the Holy Spirit lead you in cleaning up. You couldnt do it yourself anyway.

God loves you and He aint changing His mind!

KleinerApfel · Aug 8, 2009

Yes, the Sheepdog is right Imana. Read Cindy's thread again - this heavy burden isn't from God.

You won't make it if it's left to you, nor will I - but thankfuly it is not left to us.
Signed, sealed, delivered, we're His.

childofmercy · Aug 8, 2009

Imana said:
Yall, please bear with me cuz I need to get some things off my chest. You really don't even need to respond to what I'm about to say.

I hate sin, but when it comes to my own, its like I can't let go of that which I know is not good for my spirit nor pleases God. I say and do things that I know aren't right but do it anyways and have been struggling with this for quite some time now. It really sucks because I've put myself in my own prison of bondage and feel like screaming!

God said that it aint over till He says its over. But I need to get out of this funk I'm in before its too late. I'm not even trying to go to hell or be left behind when Christ comes back for His church!

So....I guess the only question to ask myself is how much do I really love God? Enough to quit sinning and be obediante? Or just enough to get into heaven?

I recently was given the understanding if we could just not sin then we wouldn't need Jesus (that parts obvious), which began the journey to I now believe we need to let Him do a little more of the work that wasn't ours to do. I'm not so sure we can just make ourself pure and stop sinning the minute we're saved. I'm beginning to realize there may be many who don't even know when that moment is. I think He washes us clean over a period of time and we're to resist and do what we can.

I actually think where you're at is where many are. Wanting to serve Him and taking a good look at ourselves. When we do that honestly and ask Him what needs to be fixed as opposed to what we think needs fixed, I believe He'll show us the pieces we're missing to stop the sin. What I'm trying, however ineptly, to say is I think you're doing wonderful in your walk . What would be scary is if you didn't think you needed fixing. We all do. It's validating to know someone else struggles with this. I just came out of a real struggle with just what you're saying.

The only advice I can think of is to ask Jesus to pull you out of this pit. That's what I did. I knew I couldn't get out alone.

Sometimes looking at yourself in the mirror and admitting your failures is the hardest thing to do.

Amen to that! Failures and faults aren't necessarily the same thing.[/quote]

May God's peace rest on you.

Peaceful Dove · Aug 8, 2009

Greetings, My Dear Sistah

I know what you are saying.
I just posted a sermon by one of our Deacons. It is aimed at Catholics but mmmm, maybe it would edify you in a tiny way.

If you listen to it, let me know what you think.
Blessings

Jayangel81 · Aug 8, 2009

Imana said:
Yall, please bear with me cuz I need to get some things off my chest. You really don't even need to respond to what I'm about to say.

I hate sin, but when it comes to my own, its like I can't let go of that which I know is not good for my spirit nor pleases God. I say and do things that I know aren't right but do it anyways and have been struggling with this for quite some time now. It really sucks because I've put myself in my own prison of bondage and feel like screaming!

God said that it aint over till He says its over. But I need to get out of this funk I'm in before its too late. I'm not even trying to go to hell or be left behind when Christ comes back for His church!

So....I guess the only question to ask myself is how much do I really love God? Enough to quit sinning and be obediante? Or just enough to get into heaven?

Sometimes looking at yourself in the mirror and admitting your failures is the hardest thing to do.

You have had some good advice :hug:

I would like to add something.

Do not put all your concentration on not sinning. You will just sin even more and you will eventually find yourself in bondage to it.

Look towards HIS Grace and as what was said prior, He will clean you out.

Many people are stuck in this.

And do not let anyone try to have you believe that you are not saved because you are struggling.

Some people seem to believe this :doh:

I have even heard it on this very forum.. :sick:

Keep fighting the good fight of faith :hug:

Seeking Him · Aug 8, 2009

Jesus is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse us.

Remember your great high priest is there to help you. His powerful grace is ever flowing from His throne, and because it comes from His throne it is majestic enough to rescue you. Don't loose heart, grace is only a prayer away.

JeCrois · Aug 9, 2009

It's actually quite easy to bear with you on this because I believe we all face this to an extent at some point or another down the road.

I'll be honest with you, Imana, I have been fighting the EXACT same feelings a lot this summer. I was recently burned by some folks I thought I could trust and it has set me into a relapse of some good ole common sense. But I changed a few things.

First of all, I spent more time in the Word. I have learned that when these feelings come on strong that the first thing Satan will try to accomplish is make you feel worthless. He will try his best to make you forget what God has already promised you. Sin will start to look more and more enticing. Reading scripture really reminds you of the greatness of God's mercy and the consequences of His wrath. He is a just God that has already come to your rescue once and can do so again and again. After more study you will remember that God is much more enticing if you let your heart look that direction.

Secondly...and this addresses looking at yourself "in the mirror" so to speak...I took some time to write out every knitty gritty thing that had been plauguing me in a journal. I wrote about every struggle I've gone through lately. I wrote about things that I never dreamed to ever even speak about with another living person. I confessed my problems and laid them out before the pages and literally before God. Journalling these things helped me to admit there were actually real problems and eliminated any portions of self-denial I may have been feeling. It also helped me see things from new perspectives, and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit I was able to check myself in line with the Truths I have already grounded myself in since I've been born again.

One more thing that needs to be changed is the mind. I find that it is so easy to let my mind wander into things that are unbecoming. If you can't show some control in where your mind goes, what else will God expect you to control? It may seem hard but all it takes is a bit of effort on our part, and along with these other changes, our mind will start reaping the benifits off all our work. And others may be blessed in the process!

God never gives us more than we can handle! Isn't that a relief!

Maybe some of these things will help you too. Remember what Paul says...pray without ceasing!

I'm praying for you! :hug:

Svt4Him · Aug 9, 2009

Struggling With Sin

7What shall we say, then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what sin was except through the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, "Do not covet."[b] 8But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead. 9Once I was alive apart from law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death. 12So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good. 13Did that which is good, then, become death to me? By no means! But in order that sin might be recognized as sin, it produced death in me through what was good, so that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.

14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to dothis I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to Godthrough Jesus Christ our Lord!

So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
Romans 8

Life Through the Spirit

1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] 2because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in sinful man,[d] 4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 9, 2009

To the OP:

I give you my receipt for everything....I am paid in full...already my life is being poured out on the altar...I have run the great race, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith....now the prize awaits me.

--Paul the Apostle.

You will be ok.

Elijah2 · Aug 9, 2009

Imana said:
Yall, please bear with me cuz I need to get some things off my chest. You really don't even need to respond to what I'm about to say.

I hate sin, but when it comes to my own, its like I can't let go of that which I know is not good for my spirit nor pleases God. I say and do things that I know aren't right but do it anyways and have been struggling with this for quite some time now. It really sucks because I've put myself in my own prison of bondage and feel like screaming!

God said that it aint over till He says its over. But I need to get out of this funk I'm in before its too late. I'm not even trying to go to hell or be left behind when Christ comes back for His church!

So....I guess the only question to ask myself is how much do I really love God? Enough to quit sinning and be obediante? Or just enough to get into heaven?

Sometimes looking at yourself in the mirror and admitting your failures is the hardest thing to do.

My dear sister, HE said that if you are tired from carrying heavy burdens, the come to HIM and HE will give you rest. Take the yoke that HE gives you, and put it on your shoulders and learn from HIM. HE is gentle and humble, and you will find rest. This yoke that HE gives you is easy to bear, and this burden is light.

When we live by the power of the Spirit, then we will obey the Spirit.

When the Spirit convicts us we confess and repent our sin, knowing by our faith that we will be forgiven, because we are assured of our forgiveness by HIS nurturing and sustaining love.

HE gave us only two commandments: we love one another as we love ourself, and we forgiven one another.

If we continue to sin, the same sin, over and over and over, well we have to finally get brought to our knees where we can no longer continue in our frame, our mindset.

There is no such thing as just enough. Its either all out or all in.

Read James 4:1-8.

When we fight and argue with ourself, is because our selfish desires control us. You cant love yourself and the world. Our Lord Jesus Christ opposes the proud, and is kind to the humble.

When we submit and drawn near to HIM, then we will be able to clean up our lives by cleansing our hands and purifying our heart. And when this is actioned then we are able to resist Satan and his forces.

Blessings.

Eurasia · Aug 9, 2009

The Lord is my banner said:
Yes, the Sheepdog is right Imana. Read Cindy's thread again - this heavy burden isn't from God.

You won't make it if it's left to you, nor will I - but thankfuly it is not left to us.
Signed, sealed, delivered, we're His.

lismore · Aug 9, 2009

Imana said:
Yall, please bear with me cuz I need to get some things off my chest. .

First check that it is actually 'sinful' whats cutting you up. Fundies label all sorts of things sinful that are nothing of the sort and put a guilt trip on you.

E>G If its wine that sinful dont forget Jesus turned water into wine

Joy · Aug 9, 2009

I am no fundie but believe as christians ther are times when we do sin and do need to repent because the Holy Spirit convicts us of sin, righteousness and judgement. But in showing us the need to repent of sin the Holy Spirit always gives us hope and encourages to move forward in our relationship with God.
However if you are feeling condemned trapped and helpless by the sense of sin, this is from satan whose main job is to steal kill and destroy our Relationship with God.

Sin

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