Nazarenic Judaism - Unorthodox?!

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Since when has Nazarenic Judaism (Judaism that acknowledges Jesus of Nazareth to be G-d Himself, incarnate as a man, i.e. the Messiah) been 'unorthodox'?! Which Gentile Christian rocket scientist came up with that idea?!

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:) What makes you think the idea was not brought up first by a non gentile Christian rocket scientist?
 
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Is there a such thing as "Nazarenic Judaism?". Somehow, I don't think so. It's just another attempt to define someone's peculiar theology I bet.

It seems like everyone is trying to corner the market on what "true" Messianic Judaism is. We've got people trying all kinds of labels.
 
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Nazarenic Judaism
I had not heard of that one before. They sound quite proud of themselves.
Here is what I found: Answer-18

Nazarene Judaism is a pure form of Messianic Judaism, absent from all man-made doctrine, not unlike Karaite Judaism except Nazarene Jews beleive that the Messiah has already come. Before the Messiah tabernacled among us the one true faith in Yah was called Judaism. The Jewish faith believes that their would be a Messiah as the prophets had said. Nazarene Jews are Jews that believe that the Messiah has already come as Y'shua of Nazareth.

Christianity on the other hand is for the most part a hybrid of the Jewish faith and paganism, especially practices rooted in pagan sun worship. Everything from worshiping on the day of the Sun (Sun-Day) instead of the day of the Son (Sabbath) to observing pagan holy days like Ishtar (Easter) and the birthday of Tamuz (Christmas) instead of the Messianic Feasts given to us by Elohim Christians believe in other strange doctrines not based on Scripture such as: Palm Sun-Day, Sun-Day Resurrection, Sun-Day Sabbath, Secret Rapture, Trinity, and even an Everlasting Torment.
Nowhere in the Scriptures are we instructed as believers to abandon the one true faith given to us by Elohim when the Messiah comes and start a whole new religion. The Scripture is very clear about this matter, even calling it an abomination to worship our Creator in any way other than how He said to worship Him. Lets go to the Scripture to see what He says about adding or taking away from the faith, especially when incorporating practices of other religions into it.
All the words I am commanding you, guard to do it -- do not add to it nor take away from it. (ISR Debarim 12:32)
Unfortunately these passages are in the Tanach (Old Testament) and it is often a "Christian" practice to discount anything in these books if it conflicts with their new religion, they do this by saying "that is old testament" although, they often do not hesitate to use "old testament" if they happened to like what it says like when collecting tithes. The truth is that the Christian religion is a very different practice than the Jewish faith of the Apostles and early believers.
I would agree with what it says about the Christian religion being a hybrid of some Jewish practices and pagan ones.
However, it goes wrong to me when it says that nowhere in scripture were believers instructed to leave the one true faith.

Actually, nowhere in scripture were gentiles told to join the Jewish religion.

In fact, in Acts we see that the brothers decided it was not necessary.

Jesus did not come to start a new religion.
Nor did He come to add people to the Jewish religion.
He came to bring His sheep out of the fold and into Himself.
He came to replace religion with Himself as our life and life supply.

As far as Nazarenic Judaism not being considered orthodox - by who and what orthodox are you referring to? Orthodox Christian or Orthodox Jewish?

I don't know what all of their beliefs are regarding Christ - so I am not sure if they are orthodox as far as being Christian would count and they would not be considered Jewish by the Jews - orthodox or not.
 
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I would agree with what it says about the Christian religion being a hybrid of some Jewish practices and pagan ones.

If you use their approach to history- that applies to Torah Judaism too.


As far as Nazarenic Judaism not being considered orthodox - by who and what orthodox are you referring to? Orthodox Christian or Orthodox Jewish?
I don't think they fit either one of those two options. They are merely declaring themselves as "Orthodox".
 
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Orthodoxy - The word orthodox, from Greek orthodoxos "having the right opinion," from orthos ("right, true, straight") + doxa ("opinion, praise", related to dokein, "thinking"), is typically used to mean adhering to the accepted or traditional and established faith, especially in religion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy
 
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Since when has Nazarenic Judaism (Judaism that acknowledges Jesus of Nazareth to be G-d Himself, incarnate as a man, i.e. the Messiah) been 'unorthodox'?! Which Gentile Christian rocket scientist came up with that idea?!

Simonline.

I think it has been quite a while that such has been considered quite unorthodox by some of our perspectives. ;)

sorry could not resist the easy pun. Please return to your normally scheduled thread.

Yochi
 
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