The NEA is pushing far left teaching upon children

[BCP1928]

That is not for the school to decide. If the child fears their parents then the authorities might need to be involved.

Yes it is. The parents are the final say so on what their child is called not the school.

Irrelevant. It is the parent‘s decision.

Wow, just wow.

Nicknames are quite common amongst the young and change frequently. Should they all be reported to parents?

 

[PloverWing]

The parents are the final say so on what their child is called not the school.

And the child, right? Kids should get a say in what they want to be called.

 

[Hentenza]

Probably because you haven't experienced it. There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio.

One of my grandkids went through it so I have seen it. Maybe you never have and are just regurgitating far left nonsense.

Who is forcing you to use any pronouns you don't want to?

-- A2SG, clue me in, why don't cha?

Who? If I was a teacher in a school district that required the use of preferred pronouns then it would be the school district. If I worked for a company that requires them then it would be the company. Fortunately, so far the courts have ruled that forcing them is unconstitutional because it falls under compelled speech.

 

[Hentenza]

Nicknames are quite common amongst the young and change frequently. Should they all be reported to parents?

Really? Do you really think that nick names fall under the same category?

 

[Hentenza]

And the child, right? Kids should get a say in what they want to be called.

Thats up to the parents not the child.

 

[Hentenza]

I never saw what the big deal is about that. Do you know of anyone who was actually fired for using unpreferred pronouns in other than a confrontational manner?

Read about them in the news.

 

[BCP1928]

Really? Do you really think that nick names fall under the same category?

Yes. It's always polite to address a person as he wishes to be addressed.

 

[Hentenza]

Yes. It's always polite to address a person as he wishes to be addressed.

Unless it shows medical or mental issues.

 

[BCP1928]

Read about them in the news.

That's just it: I haven't read any. I have read of people fired for being confrontational about it, but I don't understand what, exactly, they think they are confronting.

 

[Hentenza]

That's just it: I haven't read any. I have read of people fired for being confrontational about it, but I don't understand what, exactly, they think they are confronting.

From AI.

Yes, teachers have been fired for refusing to use a transgender student's preferred pronouns, with cases citing insubordination, discrimination, or creating a hostile environment. Conversely, some teachers have sued or challenged their firing on religious or free speech grounds, arguing that being compelled to use specific pronouns violates their rights. Legal battles continue over the balance between school policies on pronoun usage and teacher protections.

Examples of fired teachers

• Virginia (2018):
  A high school teacher was fired for insubordination after refusing to use a transgender student's new male pronouns.
  
  
• • Wisconsin (2024):
    A teacher was fired for not using students' preferred pronouns and is suing, citing religious beliefs.
    
  • California (2024):
    A school district settled a lawsuit with a teacher who was fired for not following policies on using preferred pronouns, allowing transgender students to use bathrooms aligning with their gender identity, and other directives.
    
  • Florida (2025):
    A teacher was placed on leave and could face termination for using a student's preferred name instead of their legal name, which some critics say could be a precursor to further action under recent Florida laws.

 

[BCP1928]

Unless it shows medical or mental issues.

Sometimes even then.

 

[BCP1928]

From AI.

Yes, teachers have been fired for refusing to use a transgender student's preferred pronouns, with cases citing insubordination, discrimination, or creating a hostile environment. Conversely, some teachers have sued or challenged their firing on religious or free speech grounds, arguing that being compelled to use specific pronouns violates their rights. Legal battles continue over the balance between school policies on pronoun usage and teacher protections.

Examples of fired teachers

• Virginia (2018):
  A high school teacher was fired for insubordination after refusing to use a transgender student's new male pronouns.
  
  
• • Wisconsin (2024):
    A teacher was fired for not using students' preferred pronouns and is suing, citing religious beliefs.
  • California (2024):
    A school district settled a lawsuit with a teacher who was fired for not following policies on using preferred pronouns, allowing transgender students to use bathrooms aligning with their gender identity, and other directives.
  • Florida (2025):
    A teacher was placed on leave and could face termination for using a student's preferred name instead of their legal name, which some critics say could be a precursor to further action under recent Florida laws.

Those all look like confrontational situations to me.

 

[Hentenza]

Sometimes even then.

I disagree.

 

[Hentenza]

Those all look like confrontational situations to me.

The school system has to use a reason but is it real? Probably not since some of these teachers are winning court cases against the school district.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Unless it shows medical or mental issues.

Does teachers determine that in the US?

 

[Hentenza]

Does teachers determine that in the US?

Parents do by taking their children to the appropriate doctor. Neither the schools nor teachers should take on that role.

 

[Stopped_lurking]

Parents do by taking their children to the appropriate doctor. Neither the schools nor teachers should take on that role.

So why should the school tell the parents if the kid wants to go by a different name or other pronouns? As long as it is not a academic or legal problem, why involve the parents at all?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Uncovered docs show top teachers union guiding gender transitions, bashing conservatives: 'Insane asylum'

Defending Education obtained documents showing one of the nation's top teachers unions training members on far-left gender identity postures while criticizing conservatives.

www.foxnews.com

The progressive left wing liberals really do want to indoctrinate your children against what parents believe.

... I think the real locus of political and sociological tension here comes down to how seriously and literally certain people take the book of Romans and the book of Revelation.

Obviously, those who lean heavily on a Neo-Marxian, socialist worldview are going to have direct conflict with those who .....lean on something else.

 

[Hentenza]

So why should the school tell the parents if the kid wants to go by a different name or other pronouns? As long as it is not an academic or legal problem, why involve the parents at all?

Because is not normal and it points to a mental issue like gender dysphoria. The question really is why would the school not inform the parents?

 

[PloverWing]

From AI.
...
Florida (2025):
A teacher was placed on leave and could face termination for using a student's preferred name instead of their legal name, which some critics say could be a precursor to further action under recent Florida laws.

The AI bot didn't cite its source, but the Florida case seems to be this one: Florida district won’t rehire teacher in LGBTQ+ controversy over student’s preferred name

I note that this case is the opposite of the others: the teacher followed the student's preference, which is against Florida law.