The Final Experiment (Flat Earth Bites The Dust)

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

It is disturbing that they find it so easy to speak falsely. They claim they interpret the Scriptures correctly but how can they be led by the Holy Spirit if lies come so easily to them?

They believe they're in the right. Thus, anything they do is right, even if it's something that is demonstrably wrong.

 

[contratodo]

There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours -- in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny. Thank you."

The old childhood adage of 'Lies make Baby Jesus cry' still stands

What lies? I quoted exactly what he said.

....There are.... breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers.

Are you trying to mark my dots as lies? The dots signify that more was said, I quoted what I remembered, and what I quoted was exactly what he said.

Are aliens throwing asteroids at us? No, it is a satanic deception dear ones.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What lies? I quoted exactly what he said.

....There are.... breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers.

Are you trying to mark my dots as lies? The dots signify that more was said, I quoted what I remembered, and what I quoted was exactly what he said.

Are aliens throwing asteroids at us? No, it is a satanic deception dear ones.

No, you quote-mined him; taking something he said out of context and then making him to say something completely different to what he actually said. You lied by omission.

Lies make Baby Jesus cry.

 

[Strong in Him]

Lies make Baby Jesus cry.

Lies make baby Jesus cry??

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Lies make baby Jesus cry??

Have you never heard that phrase?

I also have just remembered it's from The Simpsons.

 

[contratodo]

No, you quote-mined him; taking something he said out of context and then making him to say something completely different to what he actually said. You lied by omission.

I quoted exactly what he said, " breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers. "

So he was hinting that certain truth is protected by some layers, yes?

What truth is he referring to? What can you glean from everything he said, yes the context, in that speech? You think it is not truth related to what is outside of the sky? What is the very first thing he said? And why did he say that? What was his facial expression and body language at that moment?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I quoted exactly what he said, " breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers. "

So he was hinting that certain truth is protected by some layers, yes?

What truth is he referring to? What can you glean from everything he said, yes the context, in that speech? You think it is not truth related to what is outside of the sky? What is the very first thing he said? And why did he say that? What was his facial expression and body language at that moment?

Did you read the actual speech he gave? Here, I'll quote it again for you:

"Wilbur Wright once noted that the only bird that could talk was the parrot, and he didn’t fly very well [laughter from the audience], so I'll be brief. This week America has been recalling the Apollo program and reliving the memories of those times in which so many of us here, the colleagues here in the first rows, were immersed. Our old astrogeology mentor, Gene Shoemaker, even called in one of his comets to mark the occasion with spectacular Jovian fireworks and reminding us one again of the power and consequence of celestial extracurricular activities.

Many Americans were part of Apollo, about one or two in each thousand citizens, all across the country. They were asked by their country to do the impossible -- to envisage, to design and to build a method of breaking the bonds of Earth's gravity and then sally forth and visit another heavenly body. The principal elements -- leaving earth, navigating in space and descending to a planet unencumbered with runways and traffic controls -- would include the major requirements necessary for a spacefaring people.


Today a Space Shuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold.


Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say: we’ve only completed the beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours -- in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny. Thank you."

Do you have any idea what allegory or poetic language is? Hyperbole, even? Or even context?

 

[contratodo]

Do you have any idea what allegory or poetic language is? Hyperbole, even? Or even context?

If your being sincere with me, please address the questions I asked, because I asked them from the context of the speech.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

If your being sincere with me, please address the questions I asked, because I asked them from the context of the speech.

I don't think you were being sincere with those questions in the slightest, especially in the light of you blatantly quote mining Neil Armstrong's words, so I have no reason to answer those questions.

 

[contratodo]

I don't think you were being sincere with those questions in the slightest, especially in the light of you blatantly quote mining Neil Armstrong's words, so I have no reason to answer those questions

I have to quote the whole speech or I'm lying?
He did say 'truths protective layers' I did not miss quote him, that is the original point I was making, and the context and video of the speech confirms that he is indeed speaking about some sort of truth, what truth was he referring to is what to think about, instead, because the point is valid and you can't argue against it, you'd rather attack me than talk about the relevant point. Anyone reading this can see that I did not miss quote him, and thanks for posting the whole speech for others to see.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I have to quote the whole speech or I'm lying?
He did say 'truths protective layers' I did not miss quote him, that is the original point I was making, and the context and video of the speech confirms that he is indeed speaking about some sort of truth, what truth was he referring to is what to think about, instead, because the point is valid and you can't argue against it, you'd rather attack me than talk about the relevant point. Anyone reading this can see that I did not miss quote him, and thanks for posting the whole speech for others to see.

No, you did misquote him and intentionally ignored the context of what he was talking about in the whole speech.

 

[contratodo]

No, you did misquote him and intentionally ignored the context of what he was talking about in the whole speech

Anyone can read this thread and see that I did not miss quote Neil. I quoted a sentence from the speech, from memory, and so included dots for the few words I forgot. What I did write is exactly what he said, and the full speech does not take away from that sentence, he said; " those who can remove one of truths protective layers" clearly hinting that there is truth being protected. What truth do you think he is referring to from the context of the speech? Not something to do with outer space? See and you just said you refuse to answer that question. It is obvious that the truth Neil was referring to has something to do with "outer space". That is clear, and the sincere, reading this whole thread, will see the truth.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Anyone can read this thread and see that I did not miss quote Neil. I quoted a sentence from the speech, from memory, and so included dots for the few words I forgot. What I did write is exactly what he said, and the full speech does not take away from that sentence, he said; " those who can remove one of truths protective layers" clearly hinting that there is truth being protected. What truth do you think he is referring to from the context of the speech? Not something to do with outer space? See and you just said you refuse to answer that question. It is obvious that the truth Neil was referring to has something to do with "outer space". That is clear, and the sincere, reading this whole thread, will see the truth.

If one only has a hammer, everything looks like a nail. That's my response to your question. You did misquote Neil Armstrong, that is plain for anyone to see, that is true.

 

[contratodo]

You did misquote Neil Armstrong, that is plain for anyone to see, that is true

verb: misquote; 3rd person present: misquotes; past tense: misquoted; past participle: misquoted; gerund or present participle: misquoting

To quote (a person or a piece of written or spoken text) inaccurately.

adverb
in an incorrect or inexact manner.

"....there are... breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truths protective layers"
Neil Armstrong during a press conference with then President Clinton.

A.i. overview of ellipsis.
Formal uses (Ellipsis)
To show omitted words in a quote: When quoting text, an ellipsis (...) can be used to show that you have left out words, phrases, or even full sentences.
Example: "The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall" can be shortened to "The greatest glory in living lies...in rising every time we fall"

Today we have with us a group of students, among America's best. To you we say: we’ve only completed the beginning. We leave you much that is undone. There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. There are places to go beyond belief. Those challenges are yours -- in many fields, not the least of which is space, because there lies human destiny. Thank you."

My point was that bold part, I quoted it exactly using ellipsis for what I did not remember, I forgot "great ideas undiscovered" but that does not take away from the point of the sentence, "to those who can remove one of truths protective layers"

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

verb: misquote; 3rd person present: misquotes; past tense: misquoted; past participle: misquoted; gerund or present participle: misquoting

To quote (a person or a piece of written or spoken text) inaccurately.

adverb
in an incorrect or inexact manner.



A.i. overview of ellipsis.
Formal uses (Ellipsis)
To show omitted words in a quote: When quoting text, an ellipsis (...) can be used to show that you have left out words, phrases, or even full sentences.
Example: "The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall" can be shortened to "The greatest glory in living lies...in rising every time we fall"



My point was that bold part, I quoted it exactly using ellipsis for what I did not remember, I forgot "great ideas undiscovered" but that does not take away from the point of the sentence, "to those who can remove one of truths protective layers"

It's still a misquote, because you incorrectly and inaccurately took what he said and put it to mean something entirely different.

 

[contratodo]

It's still a misquote, because you incorrectly and inaccurately took what he said and put it to mean something entirely different.

What do you say it means based on the context of the speech? He was not talking about truth related to "outer space" ? What do you think I intended it to mean in my original quote?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What do you say it means based on the context of the speech? He was not talking about truth related to "outer space" ? What do you think I intended it to mean in my original quote?

I'm not even going to continue playing this game with you. You misquoted and quote-mined Neil Armstrong's speech to refer to something he wasn't referring to, even if you quoted him from memory or not. Take the lump, admit it and be humble.

The Earth isn't flat, it's a round globe, all of science and God's own creation shows that to be true. /thread

 

[contratodo]

misquoted and quote-mined Neil Armstrong's speech to refer to something he wasn't referring to, even

What is it that he was not referring to? Truth related to outerspace? You are saying that after reading the full speech you think he was not referring to truth related to outerspace?!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What is it that he was not referring to? Truth related to outerspace? You are saying that after reading the full speech you think he was not referring to truth related to outerspace?!

He wasn't talking about a literal truth.

 

[contratodo]

The Earth isn't flat, it's a round globe, all of science and God's own creation shows that to be true. /

Aliens are not throwing asteroids at us, it is a deception, outside of the sky is water and the city of heaven, just as the Bible describes.

The sun rejoices as a strong man to run a race, it's circular path is from one end of the sky to the other and nothing under heaven is hid from the heat of it Psalm 19 KJV.