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Confusion about God's will and my salvation

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I am posting under “New Christians” because I keep trying to become a Christian and hoping I have become one. I have confusion and concern both about God’s will for me and my salvation.

Assuming I already am a Christian, I should be seeking, as they often pray, “Your [God’s] will be done, not mine.” I want to be saved and I want to do my will, not God’s. This contradiction causes me much doubt and confusion.

Luke 22:39-42 reads:

“Coming out, He went to the Mount of Olives, as He was accustomed, and His disciples also followed him. When He came to the place, He said to them, “Pray that you may not enter into temptation.

“And He was withdrawn from them about a stone’s throw, and He knelt down and prayed, saying, ‘Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; Nevertheless, not My will, but Yours, be done.”

My Dr. David Jeremiah Study Bible note on this passage says: “God does not ask for absolute perfection from his people, only a desire and determination to do His will.”

In recent hours I have been praying things like, ‘God, I do not have a desire and determination to do Your will,’ ‘How can I have a desire to do Your will when in reality, I want to do my will,’ ‘God, I need to have a desire and determination to do Your will.’

I really want to be saved. I want to pass from death to life and be secure in Jesus’ arms forever. I have sought “the moment of salvation” for decades, because I know that, after that moment of salvation, one is secure forever, no matter what. But assurance of salvation is always fleeting for me. Part of the problem is that I have Religious OCD. But another part of the problem is that I have, at best, wavering faith. My faith wavers on a moment-by-moment basis. I may give my life to Christ at one moment, but the next will be continuing to live for myself, going after my own will, the same as if nothing happened. Part of that problem is probably that I seek to be saved but also seek to do my own thing. So, I suppose, that I envision my potential salvation like this: I turn to Christ, get saved, then pull back and let him work on me over time to get me in line with His will; but in the meantime – I’m safe! I’m saved! Some Christians would say that is seeking a “fire insurance policy,” so that I avoid hell, but that’s it. I know that one cannot just get a “fire insurance policy” from God and go on to live for themselves, like any non-believer. If I have that cynical of an approach to salvation, I may be unsavable.

So I do some thinking about doing God’s will. Besides my natural proclivity to do my own will, not God’s, I have honest confusion about how God’s will relates to me and my will. I am confused about the line, or the chasm, between God’s will and mine. I know about “Love your neighbor” and “love your enemies,” but what is God’s will for me in the next five minutes, being that it is before 6 AM and no one else is about?

I have an agenda and a proposed schedule. Every time I think I get saved, I think, ‘Great! Now, if it be God’s will, I can continue to work my schedule and my agenda.’ But my schedule and my agenda are MY will. Should I just go about my schedule and my agenda, and let circumstances dictate what I think is God’s will for me? When I set out to do my schedule and my agenda, the thought comes, ‘I am not doing God’s will, I’m doing mine, and I may not be saved.’

I really want to be saved. If that means I need to do God’s will, I need to be seeking to do His will. But I wonder about things in relation to God’s will. Can God’s will and mine sometimes dovetail? If I have a career agenda, should I just follow it?

If doing my schedule and agenda means I am not saved, then I must revert to what I have been doing for decades. I must cease all unnecessary activity and seek salvation full time. Give my life to Christ and let the chips fall where they may after that.

I’ve supposedly given my life to Christ hundreds of times. But assurance of salvation is always fleeting.

I have an invention idea and a business idea, besides other projects. But if pursuing those means I am not going to heaven, then I must cease all activity and seek salvation full time.
 

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The bible says God will is 'perfect and pleasant' it means is more nice than even what you can imagine.
At first God will i guess is we try to do his commandments, and then while seeking Him, and being filled with the Holy spirit, and having communion with Him, we could discover more of what could be his plans for us.
 
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Following Christ is a journey.

I have noticed that some Christians get really, really worried as to whether they're "saved enough" or "prayed the sinner's prayer the right way". Every Christian struggles against their own, will, Bob. Every single one. That is part of the walk, and you're not going to stumble across a magic moment where all of your own will just vanishes. That's not what conversion does; instead, it prepares the heart to love and know and follow Christ.

Do your best each day. Ask forgiveness when you mess up. Just live your life, pray about anything that causes confusion, and ask God to open the right doors for you when the time is right. Do your best to avoid sin, and, maybe, relax a little. Love Him, and let Him love you back. Spend time in prayer daily, read something from the Gospels each day, and don't be so hard on yourself.

Conversion is not meant to make us perfect or sinless. It's meant to ready us to follow Him, and that's going to look a little it different for each person.
 
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I'm going to be a little more blunt here because I've seen you post this same kind of question (and I've replied to it) and I feel like, giving you the same answers isn't going to help.

The enemy is sowing anxiety in you.

I want you to really think about that for a minute. You are getting so swept up with nuance actions and whether this is Gods will or not, which is exactly like the Israelite's did back in the day. They made 500 some odd new rules in order to interpret the rules God gave them. This caused Jesus to be accused of breaking the law by healing people on the sabbath and Jesus had to remind them the point of the sabbath to begin with. You're doing the exact same thing the Israelite's did, but with the topic of "God's will" instead.

God's will is to accept Jesus as your savior, to walk in righteousness to the best of your ability by getting rid of sin and following God's rules, and if God directs you in some manner, to follow that direction while putting God first above anything (family, friends, career). Follow the bible, follow the teachings of the bible and stop sweating the nuances that you're placing into your life that is not the point of what God is saying.

Examples:
(Include God) In a job, I pray and ask if God wants me there.
(Doesn't Matter) Before I cook dinner, I just cook dinner. God doesn't need to determine what I have for food and if there is something specific, he will step in. He's warned me about food before (because I have allergies) but I don't pray and ask him about every single food before I eat it, I just plan my normal life.
(Include God) If my husband and I get into an argument, I ask God if there was anything on MY end, that I could have done better. Based on that, he will direct me to apologize, or just sit and let him work in my husbands life, so we can reconcile.
(Doesn't Matter) If my plan for the day is chores, I get up, eat breakfast, ask God if there is anything specific he wants me to do/read (in the bible) today and if not, I continue my day as planned. Chores, reading scripture in a continuation in whatever book I was in, and then continue the rest of the day.

My salvation with the Lord is secure, because he leads me to corrections (about my behavior/thoughts etc in general), I can see how much I've changed for the better over the years (growth in fruits of the spirit) and that proves my walk with Christ. I am his servant, and that means I will hop to if he wants me to, but in the mean time, I plan my life and have faith that he will re-direct me when necessary as he's always done.

The enemy plaguing you constantly with what-ifs or attacking your every move is rooting you in nothing but fear and anxiety and that's not healthy. Read more of scripture so you have a better understanding of what God expects from us and what he doesn't and let that be your guide. Not fear/anxiety or the idea you aren't being nuanced in every one of your decisions enough. God is our Father and he treats us like a child, not a robot. Include Him when you feel it's necessary, and leave the regular mundane day to day tasks, with your decisions. Just like our parents want us to be a well functioning adult, God wants the same for us, but still include him in big things.
 
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In John 6:40 Jesus says:

"For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”
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It is not a matter of what the verse is saying, the problem is believing what the verse states. Sadly many know what the verse says, but most do not believe what the verse states.
 
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I have confusion and concern both about God’s will for me and my salvation.
"casting all your care upon Him, for He cares for you." (1 Peter 5:7)

Assuming I already am a Christian, I should be seeking, as they often pray, “Your [God’s] will be done, not mine.” I want to be saved and I want to do my will, not God’s. This contradiction causes me much doubt and confusion.
Well, we are not going to have peace about doing our own wills.

"'Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.'" (Matthew 11:29)

We have rest while doing God's will.
 
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