BUSTED - 12 False theories refuted:

[keras]

Hundreds of people have believed that world events in their lifetime meant that the end was near - all have been wrong.

In no way is this fact, any kind of proof that the end time events will never happen.
I too, have been wrong - to guess 2012 as a probable date for the Lords Day of wrath. I apologised for my error, but did not think for a minute, that what was so clearly Prophesied, would never happen.

You and most Christians display a careless attitude toward Bible Prophecy. It is all very confusing and difficult, but to put it 'into the 'too hard basket', is a serious mistake and may have repercussions later.

Dan P; Please tell us why you want to deny Jesus a place to dwell in when He Returns?
Look at Isaiah 2:2 and Psalms 27:4, +

 

[Strong in Him]

In no way is this fact, any kind of proof that the end time events will never happen.

I never said it was.
But most, if not all, of those people would have quoted Scripture to illustrate that what they believed was true and would come true.
It didn't.

I too, have been wrong - to guess 2012 as a probable date for the Lords Day of wrath.

If it was a guess, it was a guess. But there were a lot of people who believed that 2012 was some kind of prophetic date - possibly due to the "guesses" of others.
They denounced the London 2012 Olympics - apparently the images used/created were New Age and predicted a false flag attack (whatever that means.) When this didn't happen at the opening ceremony, they said it would happen at the closing ceremony. It didn't. There was a "pastor" on YouTube who explained in detail how the Potter's field was linked to the place where the Olympics were being held, and said that X ,Y and Z were going to happen. They didn't.

My point is that others, maybe many others, have claimed Scriptural authority for their teaching that the Lord would return/the end of the world would begin on a certain date. They quoted from the prophets too.
They were wrong.
Why should anyone believe that you, alone, have got it right?

You and most Christians display a careless attitude toward Bible Prophecy.

Not at all.
I've said before that whenever prophecy was fulfilled in the NT, Jesus, or one of the Apostles/Gospel writers, said so.
The OT prophets spoke of Jesus' birth, babies being killed, the Holy Family's flight into Egypt, Jesus being brought up in Nazareth, having a healing ministry, being betrayed by a friend, being abandoned, dying for the sins of others, being raised again, Judas hanging himself, the Spirit being poured out at Pentecost etc etc. Paul debated with Jews and showed them from the (OT) Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah. Jesus showed the couple on the road to Emmaus what the Scriptures said about him.

Before his ascension Jesus said that he would return one day. The Apostles even believed that this would be within their lifetime.
But neither he, nor they, told us that we need to read Daniel and this passage means that there will be a world war in 1914, or that in the 21st century, Israel would be a war with Iran and America would be dragged into it. Or that we need to count so many days from a certain date and then the Lord would return.

Scripture does not say that. If you, or anyone else, are saying that the current Israel/Gaza war was predicted by the prophets, it is either an interpretation, or a guess.
I've asked before; what authority do you have to read a passage from Ezekiel/Daniel/Jeremiah etc and declare that it applies to current events?

It is all very confusing and difficult, but to put it 'into the 'too hard basket', is a serious mistake

That's an assumption. Probably made because we disagree with your reasoning.

I knew I was right not to hold my breath when I asked you to show me where Jesus taught that animal sacrifices would be reinstated.

 

[Dan Perez]

In no way is this fact, any kind of proof that the end time events will never happen.
I too, have been wrong - to guess 2012 as a probable date for the Lords Day of wrath. I apologised for my error, but did not think for a minute, that what was so clearly Prophesied, would never happen.

You and most Christians display a careless attitude toward Bible Prophecy. It is all very confusing and difficult, but to put it 'into the 'too hard basket', is a serious mistake and may have repercussions later.

Dan P; Please tell us why you want to deny Jesus a place to dwell in when He Returns?
Look at Isaiah 2:2 and Psalms 27:4, +

And you explain Gal 6:15 and I will answer BACK !!

dan p

 

[keras]

But most, if not all, of those people would have quoted Scripture to illustrate that what they believed was true and would come true.
It didn't.

Bible Prophecy will come to pass. Some has already, but most remains to be fulfilled.
Just because I and others have thought the end times events would commence at a certain time and that time passed; people cannot become complacent and think it won't eventually happen.

Why should anyone believe that you, alone, have got it right?

Daniel 12:10....only the [few] wise leaders will understand. [the Prophetic Word]
Is God going to laugh at mankind if no one is able to comprehend the huge amount of information He has given us about His plans for our future.?

I am not 'blowing my own trumpet', but the fact is the Lord did give me a vison when I was in the Holy Land. Of how that Land will be after His Day of fiery wrath. He inspired me to write out the Prophesies and allowed me to see the amazing sequence of events, leading up to the Eternal state, after the 7000 years decreed for mortal mankind is over.
If you have the moral fortitude, look at my www.logostelos.info website. There are over 800 articles there, mostly on the Prophetic Word.

The critically important factor in understanding Gods Plans, is to have an open mind.
Preconceived theories and doctrines, can usually be made to fit scripture, but they are rabbit trails and lead nowhere.

I knew I was right not to hold my breath when I asked you to show me where Jesus taught that animal sacrifices would be reinstated.

Jesus did not need to explain everything about the end times. He did a good precis' in Revelation and in Rev 13:6, He does say the 'beast will blaspheme Gods Tabernacle. Paralleled in Daniel 9:27 & 11:31 that both say the sacrifices will be stopped. When the Anti-Christ sits in the Temple; 2 Thess 2:4 proves it. That the sacrifices and offerings must have started before then,, is a given.

And you explain Gal 6:15 and I will answer BACK !!

dan p

I won't, so you don't.

The Christian peoples are the true Israel and the Jews are toast.

 

[Strong in Him]

Bible Prophecy will come to pass. Some has already, but most remains to be fulfilled.
Just because I and others have thought the end times events would commence at a certain time and that time passed; people cannot become complacent and think it won't eventually happen.

Oh I'm not. End times will happen. Jesus will return one day - could be in 10 minutes, 10 weeks or 10 years.
For nearly 2000 years people have been speaking of, and looking ahead to, end times - it started with the Apostles. A few hundred years later people started giving specific dates. They have all been wrong.
This, to me, just shows the truth of Jesus' words that no one knows the day or hour.
Of course, most people have an elaborate explanation of why and how they came to be wrong. Harold Camping was "astonished" that it didn't happen as he had said it would, but then claimed that a spiritual 2nd coming had happened on his predicted date and the real thing would be 6 months later. It wasn't.

Daniel 12:10....only the [few] wise leaders will understand. [the Prophetic Word]

Understanding the prophetic word does not mean adding various dates together, claiming things will happen so many days after Adam or taking various verses and applying them to countries and situations today.
And you are not a wise leader.

I am not 'blowing my own trumpet', but the fact is the Lord did give me a vison when I was in the Holy Land.

I don't doubt at all that the Lord can give visions.
If you are certain yours was from the Lord, I have little reason to doubt that (unless it was contrary to Scripture.)

Of how that Land will be after His Day of fiery wrath. He inspired me to write out the Prophesies and allowed me to see the amazing sequence of events, leading up to the Eternal state, after the 7000 years decreed for mortal mankind is over.

If the Lord gives a vision and that vision involves certain dates and certain events, or numbers, then it WILL happen, end of.
Having received this vision, it seems that you said that the day of his wrath would be in 2012. You were wrong. But that's ok because "it was only a guess", and you apologised. That's what Harold Camping did.

Mankind has been around for way longer than 7000 years.

If you have the moral fortitude, look at my www.logostelos.info website. There are over 800 articles there, mostly on the Prophetic Word.

It's got nothing to do with "moral fortitude" and everything to do with not wanting to waste time.
You could have 8,000,000 articles on the prophetic word - it still wouldn't mean you were right.

The critically important factor in understanding Gods Plans, is to have an open mind.

Why?
If God wants us to know something, and do something, he will tell us, clearly. Like, for example, when Jesus said "no one knows the day of hour" and told several parables about being ready.
God doesn't play games - hide dates, visions or revelations in Scripture and then say, "off you go; you can find them if you're clever enough."

If the date of his coming WAS hidden in the prophetic word, that would contradict Jesus' words about nobody knowing.
It would contradict his teaching that if the owner of the house had known what time the thief was coming, he would have been alert and ready.
It would contradict his parables about a bridegroom taking longer to appear than people thought, and servants who got lazy and careless because the master was a long time returning from his journey.

How likely is it that God would contradict Jesus?

Preconceived theories and doctrines, can usually be made to fit scripture, but they are rabbit trails and lead nowhere.

As many have demonstrated.

Jesus did not need to explain everything about the end times.

But if it was God's plan and it was important to us that we know, he would have.
That's why he came - to reconcile us to God and teach us about God. He also showed us what life in God's kingdom is/will be like, and how God wants us to live. He did not tell us when it will all end.

He did a good precis' in Revelation and in Rev 13:6,

Revelation was written years after his ascension - probably a couple of decades after the temple was destroyed.

I am not 'blowing my own trumpet', but the fact is the Lord did give me a vison when I was in the Holy Land. Of how that Land will be after His Day of fiery wrath. He inspired me to write out the Prophesies and allowed me to see the amazing sequence of events, leading up to the Eternal state, after the 7000 years decreed for mortal mankind is over.
If you have the moral fortitude, look at my www.logostelos.info website. There are over 800 articles there, mostly on the Prophetic Word.

He does say the 'beast will blaspheme Gods Tabernacle. Paralleled in Daniel 9:27 & 11:31 that both say the sacrifices will be stopped.

Well they were and have been.
The early church did not offer daily sacrifices. The Jews probably stopped doing so after the temple was destroyed. Plenty of people eat kosher, and halal, meat - but it is a butcher who does the necessary preparations, not a priest.

Even 50 years ago, when we had a Jew come and talk to our Christian youth group, Jews were not performing daily sacrifices and "God forbid" (his words) that they should ever start again. Though he conceded there were some fundamentalists who would welcome it.

When the Anti-Christ sits in the Temple; 2 Thess 2:4 proves it.

No, it doesn't.
I've already said - and you gave no answer - that 2 Thess was written by Paul, who died before the temple was destroyed.

So 2 Thessalonians 2:4 mentions the temple. It doesn't say that this refers to the third temple which will be built - by Christians - x number of years after the second is destroyed.
You're reading into the text.

That the sacrifices and offerings must have started before then,, is a given.

It's an assumption.
And it's not at all the same as saying that Christians will offer daily sacrifices.
That would make nonsense of the sacrifice offered, once and for all, by the Lamb of God.

 

[keras]

Revelation was written years after his ascension - probably a couple of decades after the temple was destroyed.

You are the one making wild assumptions. Revelation 1:1 This is the revelation of Jesus Christ.....
John wrote the Words of Jesus. I write the Words of the Prophets, they are in my Bible.

If you cannot see how Daniel 9:27 & 11:31, prove that sacrifices and offerings will be made in a new Temple before Jesus Returns, then there is nothing further for us to discuss.

 

[Strong in Him]

You are the one making wild assumptions.

No.
You have said that you received a vision from God and a command to proclaim the prophetic word.
I have asked you what authority you have to assume that the words given to Ezekiel, Daniel etc apply to our present day. You haven't yet answered this.

Revelation 1:1 This is the revelation of Jesus Christ.....

I never said it wasn't.
But Revelation was still written after the temple was destroyed.

John wrote the Words of Jesus. I write the Words of the Prophets, they are in my Bible.

Yes, you're writing - or copying out - the words of the prophets; big deal.
How do you know that they apply to today, when they don't say so? How do you know that people weren't saying the same things as you in the 1800s? 1914? 1964 etc?
Given that you've been wrong once already, how do you know that your interpretation, and application, of them is correct?

If you cannot see how Daniel 9:27 & 11:31, prove that sacrifices and offerings will be made in a new Temple before Jesus Returns, then there is nothing further for us to discuss.

Daniel 9:27 says, "he will put an end to sacrifice and offering" .
Daniel 11:31 says, "he will abolish the daily sacrifice."
Neither say that sacrifices will be made in a NEW temple before Jesus returns for the 2nd time. At that point he hadn't even come to earth for the first time.

I guess if you ignore, and can't answer, any of the points that I have made, you need something to justify you not talking to me any longer.
If your mandate was truly to proclaim the prophetic word, you wouldn't give up just because someone didn't understand.

 

[keras]

If your mandate was truly to proclaim the prophetic word, you wouldn't give up just because someone didn't understand.

I have been doing my best to promote the Prophetic Word, since 2010.
Most often people who try to refute what I post, go quiet when confronted by truths such as Daniel 9:27 & 11:31, 2 Thess 2:4, -All prove there must be a new Temple in operation before Jesus Returns.
Isaiah 29:9-11 tells us the Lord makes it hard for those who grip onto false theories. But not impossible to change beliefs to conform with all the Prophets have told us.

Understanding Gods plans for the future of Gods Christian peoples, is necessary to get the picture of all the end times.
WE will live in all of the Holy Land and we will need a place to meet and worship in.

 

[Ed Parenteau]

I never said it wasn't.
But Revelation was still written after the temple was destroyed.

Jude tells us that the faith was once and for all delivered to the saints and he wrote in the 60's ad. So, unless the claim is made that "the revelation" is not part of the faith, it was written before the temple was destroyed. There is no eye witness account of John writing it at a late date.

 

[keras]

Jude tells us that the faith was once and for all delivered to the saints and he wrote in the 60's ad. So, unless the claim is made that "the revelation" is not part of the faith, it was written before the temple was destroyed. There is no eye witness account of John writing it at a late date.

The discussion here is whether there will be a new Temple and will operate as the two earlier ones did.
The three verses - Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:31 and 2 Thess 2:4, are all positive proof that there has to be a Third Temple in Jerusalem before Jesus Returns.

Do you agree with those Prophetic scriptures, or prefer to not believe what they say?
For the record, your contention that Revelation was Written before AD70, is provably wrong.

 

[Strong in Him]

Most often people who try to refute what I post, go quiet when confronted by truths such as Daniel 9:27

Daniel 9:27

He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

How does this verse prove that there will be a new temple in operation before Jesus returns?

11:31,

“His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation

How does this verse prove that there will be a new temple in operation before Jesus returns?

2 Thess 2:4,

He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

How does this prove a new temple?

All prove there must be a new Temple in operation before Jesus Returns.

So you say; you haven't said how.

Isaiah 29:9-11 tells us the Lord makes it hard for those who grip onto false theories. But not impossible to change beliefs to conform with all the Prophets have told us.

I'm more interested in what Jesus said and taught.
He has fulfilled the law and the prophets - he should agree with them.

Understanding Gods plans for the future of Gods Christian peoples, is necessary to get the picture of all the end times.

Why?
We can't make them come any quicker.
We can't change what's going to happen.
Understanding something won't make us ready, or otherwise.
An understanding of end times doesn't give eternal life, fill us with the Holy Spirit or help us in our day to day lives of serving Jesus.

WE will live in all of the Holy Land

Well you'd better start packing then; I'm staying where the Lord has called me to be.

 

[Ed Parenteau]

The discussion here is whether there will be a new Temple and will operate as the two earlier ones did.
The three verses - Daniel 9:27, Daniel 11:31 and 2 Thess 2:4, are all positive proof that there has to be a Third Temple in Jerusalem before Jesus Returns.

Do you agree with those Prophetic scriptures, or prefer to not believe what they say?
For the record, your contention that Revelation was Written before AD70, is provably wrong.

They in no way, shape or form validate a future physical temple. All those verses in context are about the second temple.. Where's it stated that after the second temple has been destroyed there will after many generations a third temple built by Christians in which the law will return along with animal sacrifices completely nullifying the cross.

Your doctrine is the exact opposite of Paul's doctrine. You say that the spiritual comes but the physical comes again. Paul says the natural comes first and then the spiritual.
1 Corinthians 15:46The spiritual, however, was not first, but the natural, and then the spiritual.

The following is the only Christian temple that will ever be built.
1 Peter 2:5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

 

[keras]

How does this prove a new temple?

Danel 9:27, Daniel 11:31 and 2 Thess 2:4 do prove that a new Temple will be in operation before Jesus Returns, because the Anti-Christ 'beast' will stop the sacrifices and offerings and sit in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God.
These plainly stated scriptures tell about the conquest of the Holy peoples, who will be living in all of the Holy Land during the end times.

This conquest is graphically described in Zechariah 14:1-2 and Revelation 13:7a, the world will be under his control for the next 1260 days. Those Christians who kept faithful will be kept in a safe place on earth; Revelation 12:14.

I'm more interested in what Jesus said and taught.

But you ignored Revelation 13:6

Why?
We can't make them come any quicker.
We can't change what's going to happen.
Understanding something won't make us ready, or otherwise.
An understanding of end times doesn't give eternal life, fill us with the Holy Spirit or help us in our day to day lives of serving Jesus.

I assure you that misunderstanding the Prophecies is much worse.

Well you'd better start packing then; I'm staying where the Lord has called me to be.

If you are a faithful Christian, then I will see you in the place Gods wants His people to be. Zechariah 8:1-11 describes it.
Note; Zechariah 8:9....Take heart, all who hear the Promise that the Temple will be rebuilt....

 

[keras]

They in no way, shape or form validate a future physical temple. All those verses in context are about the second temple.. Where's it stated that after the second temple has been destroyed there will after many generations a third temple built by Christians in which the law will return along with animal sacrifices completely nullifying the cross.

This simply demonstrates your inability to understand the Prophetic Word.
Apart from the scriptures I have already presented, Haggai 2:8 The splendour of this latter House will surpass that of the former.

The following is the only Christian temple that will ever be built.
1 Peter 2:5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

That assertion is wrong. Neither Peter or Jesus said that there will never be another physical Temple.

 

[Dan Perez]

Bible Prophecy will come to pass. Some has already, but most remains to be fulfilled.
Just because I and others have thought the end times events would commence at a certain time and that time passed; people cannot become complacent and think it won't eventually happen.

Daniel 12:10....only the [few] wise leaders will understand. [the Prophetic Word]
Is God going to laugh at mankind if no one is able to comprehend the huge amount of information He has given us about His plans for our future.?

I am not 'blowing my own trumpet', but the fact is the Lord did give me a vison when I was in the Holy Land. Of how that Land will be after His Day of fiery wrath. He inspired me to write out the Prophesies and allowed me to see the amazing sequence of events, leading up to the Eternal state, after the 7000 years decreed for mortal mankind is over.
If you have the moral fortitude, look at my www.logostelos.info website. There are over 800 articles there, mostly on the Prophetic Word.

The critically important factor in understanding Gods Plans, is to have an open mind.
Preconceived theories and doctrines, can usually be made to fit scripture, but they are rabbit trails and lead nowhere.

Jesus did not need to explain everything about the end times. He did a good precis' in Revelation and in Rev 13:6, He does say the 'beast will blaspheme Gods Tabernacle. Paralleled in Daniel 9:27 & 11:31 that both say the sacrifices will be stopped. When the Anti-Christ sits in the Temple; 2 Thess 2:4 proves it. That the sacrifices and offerings must have started before then,, is a given.

I won't, so you don't.

The Christian peoples are the true Israel and the Jews are toast.

OK. with me and only you. believe what your PROPHETIC theching. is perfect and your verses seems vague. !!

And I have already explained Gal 6:15-17 and you did not reply ??

dan p

 

[keras]

And I have already explained Gal 6:15-17 and you did not reply ??

Explain Galatians 6:14-16 again please - with the point you are trying to make.
It would be good to use correct English with no spelling mistakes.

 

[Strong in Him]

Danel 9:27, Daniel 11:31 and 2 Thess 2:4 do prove that a new Temple will be in operation before Jesus Returns, because the Anti-Christ 'beast' will stop the sacrifices and offerings and sit in the Holy of Holies, declaring himself to be God.

They don't prove it because they don't say it.
You're assuming that Dan 9:27 etc points to an event that's still to happen and not to something that's already happened.
There is no temple now, and no Holy of Holies. The verse doesn't say that a temple will be built - nor, if it is, that a Holy of Holies will be needed.
I can just about see where you're coming from when you say that when Jesus returns he will need somewhere to live - although I don't agree. But why would any new temple need a Holy Of Holies? The Lord lives in the hearts of his people; not in a specific sacred space that can only be accessed once a year by a specially appointed priest.

This conquest is graphically described in Zechariah 14:1-2 and Revelation 13:7a, the world will be under his control for the next 1260 days. Those Christians who kept faithful will be kept in a safe place on earth; Revelation 12:14.

Right.

But you ignored Revelation 13:6

???

It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven.

What in the world has this got to do with Jesus not teaching the stuff that you're saying?

I assure you that misunderstanding the Prophecies is much worse.

No, it isn't.
A lot of prophecies were fulfilled in Jesus. Any that weren't are not our concern.
As I've asked; what gives you the right/authority to dig up verses from Ezekiel, etc, quote them out of context apply them to today and berate people for not believing them? Yes, you believe you had a vision - how are WE to know that?

Note; Zechariah 8:9....Take heart, all who hear the Promise that the Temple will be rebuilt....

The temple WAS rebuilt.
Jesus, the disciples and thousands of Jews went to, and used, the Temple. Jesus was dedicated in the temple.

How do you know that Zechariah was referring to a 3rd temple?

 

[Strong in Him]

That assertion is wrong. Neither Peter or Jesus said that there will never be another physical Temple.

They didn't say there would be, either.
When Jesus spoke of the fall of the temple, Matthew 24, he did not say "but it will only be for 2,000 years, then Christians will rebuild it, even though they don't need it.".

 

[keras]

They don't prove it because they don't say it.

Daniel 9:27 & 11:31, Thess 2:4, absolutely prove there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem. Those verses are all end time Prophesies.
The sacrifices and offerings must be in operation, for them to be stopped. Your denial of this fact, questions your cognitive ability.

The Lord lives in the hearts of his people;

Spiritually yes, physically; no.
Jesus will physically Return to the Mt of Olives. Zechariah 14:4, from there to reside in and reign from the new Temple; for the next thousand years. Isaiah 2:1-5, Zechariah 14:16-21
NOTE: Zechariah 14:21 says there will still be sacrifices in the Millennium. Please explain that! I can, but you have to reject plainly stated scripture, to your discredit.

What in the world has this got to do with Jesus not teaching the stuff that you're saying?

Revelation 13:6 says the 'beast ' will revile the Lords dwelling place, then; those who dwell in heaven.
A definite separation between the dwelling place = on earth, i.e. the Temple, and heaven. Jesus said it, you reject it.

A lot of prophecies were fulfilled in Jesus. Any that weren't are not our concern.

A very poor and dismissive attitude, one that simply leaves you in the dark about what must happen.

As I've asked; what gives you the right/authority to dig up verses from Ezekiel, etc, quote them out of context apply them to today

WE all have equal authority to quote any verse from the Bible. I choose to do it, you don't.

The temple WAS rebuilt.

The Second Temple did not exceed the splendour of Solomons Temple. Haggai 2:7-9

How do you know that Zechariah was referring to a 3rd temple?

Because Zechariah 8:1-12 does not relate to any past situation of Gods people.

They didn't say there would be, either.
When Jesus spoke of the fall of the temple, Matthew 24, he did not say "but it will only be for 2,000 years, then Christians will rebuild it, even though they don't need it.".

The left the possibility open for a new Temple.
Christians, the new inhabitants of all the Holy Land, Ezekiel 34:11-16, do need a building to keep dry in when it rains.

 

[Strong in Him]

Daniel 9:27 & 11:31, Thess 2:4, absolutely prove there will be a new Temple in Jerusalem.

That's how you see it, certainly.

The sacrifices and offerings must be in operation, for them to be stopped.

They were in operation and they were stopped.
Jews do not offer sacrifices nowadays, and Christians have Jesus.

Your denial of this fact, questions your cognitive ability.

No, it just means that I question your interpretation of select Bible verses.

Resorting to insults usually means you have lost/are losing the argument.

NOTE: Zechariah 14:21 says there will still be sacrifices in the Millennium.

It doesn't even mention the millennium.
It simply says that everyone who comes to sacrifice to the Lord will cook in holy pots. No mention of whether that will be in 200 years from when Ezekiel wrote, 2,000 years or 20,000 years.

but you have to reject plainly stated scripture, to your discredit.

Judgement and insult - I must be getting somewhere.

Revelation 13:6 says the 'beast ' will revile the Lords dwelling place, then; those who dwell in heaven.
A definite separation between the dwelling place = on earth, i.e. the Temple, and heaven. Jesus said it, you reject it.

Stop making judgements that just because I ask a question about Scripture or see it, differently that I'm rejecting it.

A very poor and dismissive attitude, one that simply leaves you in the dark about what must happen.

No, "not our concern", means that we have been told about the prophecies, how they relate to Jesus and when they were fulfilled.
It's not up to us to read verses, apply them to today and declare that they are about to be fulfilled.
There is another thread currently on these forums which says that Jesus would return on the feast of trumpets this year. Which incidentally was 3 days ago. There have been dozens of other people who have said, "Ezekiel and the prophets say .......... this means the end will be ..........". They have all be wrong.
For some reason, you believe that your interpretation, alone, is correct. Criticising and insulting anyone who rejects it, is itself a red flag.

WE all have equal authority to quote any verse from the Bible. I choose to do it,

Quote, yes; misinterpret and misapply, no.

Christians, the new inhabitants of all the Holy Land, Ezekiel 34:11-16, do need a building to keep dry in when it rains.

So the "new temple" is nothing to do with worship but is for keeping dry in?