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This has ‘fetish’ written all over it.
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Whether or not it makes more sense isn't the issue; it's about what the Greek says.The meaning makes more sense to me.
It's "The New Greek/English interlinear NT" and I got it from Amazon.I'm going to need that book. post a link to it.
I AM a woman - I would have thought my other replies made that obvious.It is, if you are not distinguishable from a woman.
We're not going to be able to "end this" because you seem to be of the opinion that every word of Scripture is applicable to us today and is a command for today.Quote me the verses so that we can end this.
A very vague answer.There were some studies made.
Why?It matters because, you have to understand how nature works.
So if a woman has short hair it means that, internally, she is already behaving in a certain way?The exterior is led by the interior. Whatever happens outside, is already happening on the inside.
Oh, so people can do what they think best, or what they believe to be right?To each their own.
So you've questioned every woman in the world to discover their preferences?It's the radical change from long to short that is problematic. People with long do not make a sudden jump from long to short.
But you said that every bad decision that a woman makes, society blames the man.Whoever initiates the divorces takes on the entire blame in God's eyes. The marriage is a sacred vow. You break it, the sin is yours.
A massive generalisation.If a woman is corrupted into thinking the grass is always greener, it is a very big problem. Which is what is happening. A man rarely is corrupted into this thinking, but women fall for it.
GOD gives life, not the woman.On abortion is not that simple. A woman cannot give life without the man.
How do you know?Dogs can't think,
There is no "hierarchy".You are refuting the hierarchy of God?
Where is your evidence that they do it to impress others or get others to think well of them?It does, it is vanity. What you do in front of others, and for others to take notice of you, is vanity.
That answer doesn't make sense.Yes, but they aren't a couple anymore. And since this liberation came, women are now alone, not by choice, and have multiple failed relationships. You picked what suited you.
No, it isn't.It's sin, that's why.
You shouldn't be; you should be talking about hair.I am talking about everything related to the reproductive system.
Exactly.To each his own.
Not that you're judgemental at all.I would tell you more about Samson's life pertaining to mine, but you won;'t know what to do with it.
Some are.It's well-groomed, and not groomed. Women are well-groomed. Groomed would mean just a wash and a comb.
I'll research the word again, and come back.Whether or not it makes more sense isn't the issue; it's about what the Greek says.
It is called showing the same courtesy. someone may have taught you this.It's "The New Greek/English interlinear NT" and I got it from Amazon.
Sorry, but I'm not going to search for it for you.
It does. You assumed otherwise.I AM a woman - I would have thought my other replies made that obvious.
And it's only your opinion that "not being distinguishable from a man/woman" is a sin.
If you did quoted them, this would end. The way you wrote replies, imply my writings were never in the bible in the first place. Not applicable does not mean they don't exist. And who exactly tells you what is and what isn't applicable? Where is that reply about homosexuality (i believe i wrote to you, and ignored it for your benefit).We're not going to be able to "end this" because you seem to be of the opinion that every word of Scripture is applicable to us today and is a command for today.
You are incapable of providing a link to a book, accuse of not searching for me, and you want a list of studies? As if you can't find them? No, you do not want to find them.A very vague answer.
What studies, and where are the Scripture verses which teach this?
Eventually, nature will force you.Why?
You ignored the other replies. It is a drastic change in the hair. Long -> short.So if a woman has short hair it means that, internally, she is already behaving in a certain way?
What nonsense.
If you want salvation, you can do whatever you want. If you want to walk with Christ, you have to bear the same He did.Oh, so people can do what they think best, or what they believe to be right?
So it isn't a matter of Scripture.
It's nature, and it's biology. What is happening today is a construct of the times, it does not resemble God.So you've questioned every woman in the world to discover their preferences?
It does. The internet is highly filtered against any real posts of women. AI is doing his job at circling the truth, institutions are directed into giving women free passes.But you said that every bad decision that a woman makes, society blames the man.
Because it's a trend. I do something, place on the internet, a few hundreds will try it. If successful, or satisfying, a few thousands will try it, and so on. Short hair didn't exist until the recent years. If it had been something worthwhile it would have existed since the dawn of time.A massive generalisation.
And why should wanting to have short hair mean that a woman thinks the grass is always greener?
Perhaps I was not clear: give birth. I'll try to be explicit with you.GOD gives life, not the woman.
A dog does things based on instinct, not thinking. Protection of the cubs is a maternal instinct, existing in all female specifies. Whatever he does, out of his own nature, is taught by man.How do you know?
If a dog thinks it is being attacked, it will fight back. If a dog thinks that someone is threatening its puppies, it will protect them.
If a dog thinks, or realises, that its master has left it, it will pine. There have been stories of dogs sitting on their masters' graves until they died.
A dog is not really a creation. It's wild animal that has been domesticated. It is a construct of man. As with everything else, man saw opportunity, and man took it.Besides, I was talking about the order of creation, not whether or not a dog is capable of thinking/speaking.
Here, 1 Corinthians 11:3 - refute this. And refute this as well, 1 Corinthians 11:5-6.There is no "hierarchy".
When people spoke to Jesus about divorce (which in those days was easy and was always done by the man), Jesus pointed out that God made both men and women, in his own image.
I went to gym more than once. Stopped going because people started to take pictures of themselves, and not working out. They didn't care about health, they went as a means to showcase their passion for health. Taking all sorts of chemicals, and some socialized. Women heads turned, men heads turned, one trying to impress the other. Ungodly behaviors of modern times.Where is your evidence that they do it to impress others or get others to think well of them?
It's only between them, not God. God told to be fruitful. Paul said to not deny each other. Only if it is mutual agreement can this be done. Denial in a marriage is sin.That answer doesn't make sense.
I said that if a couple decide not to have children, that is between them and God.
It's not for society, nor other Christians, to judge.
It is. I gave you the verse, and you ignored it. Read and come back.No, it isn't.
And you, and other 3 women hijacked it to find things to attack with. I enourage the women on this thread to stick to the topic.You shouldn't be; you should be talking about hair.
That is the subject of this thread.
Remember the passage you quote. Do not change the word. You replied on a a comment by which is easier, long or short hair. You said it was easier short. I said easier long. Do you have to remind you to keep track of what you are saying?Exactly.
So it's not a matter of Scripture, sin or divine command
I'm not. You don't know what to do, even I told you. This is because I follow the bible in its entirely. You simply take shortcuts to salvation. You can;t understand. It's deduction based on facts.Not that you're judgemental at all.
You have no idea.
A reminder: this off-topic.Some are.
And that's what I do with my hair every day - wash and then comb.
A list of thugs from Scripture? I suppose Cain was the first......I told specifically to give a list of thugs you misunderstand to quote from the scripture.
A list of thugs from Scripture? I suppose Cain was the first......![]()
Considering the verse was in reference to Adam. It is not good that the man be alone. Adam was the crowning glory of humanity along with Eve. Perfect in every way. Yet the God in his infinite wisdom did ordain for him a partner. Adam & Eve were once perfection and they required a mate yet yu be part of fallen humanity. So how much more in need of a mate. God did give the sexual desire. Sexual desire when two become is most beautiful for those of us who have experienced. You say yu can handle it. Perhaps with Gods help yu can . But certainly not on your own strengthIt depends on what God wants to do.
That verse applies to people that can't handle being alone. The way I interpret it is: if loneliness causes you to think of sin, it is not good. And if, sexual lust increases when alone, it is definitely not good. I take it, this is what God meant when He said that. But, I can handle it. And this is a question between me and God.
It made me laugh too!Thugs - I like it![]()
Steve you perhaps speak of the ladies who sort of look like GI Joe they have hair but it is shaven on their sides.. they do have masculine tendencies and seem attracted to the femininity of us long haired ladies often speaking with masculine authority to attract us. There may be some truth to the hormonal imbalance. As many from an early age seem to know what their sexual preference be. Be it woman or man for some it’s bothI think people notice and maybe thats because of cultural stereotypes that women are suppose to have longer hair and look more feminine. I don't think I am a traditionalists in fashion and I have long hair as an old bloke lol.
But occassionally I will see a very short haircut on a women and to me it seems out of place or doesn't match what I imagine. Maybe thats me but in some ways I think there is this basic antenna or something like that where we naturally see certain signs which represent the sexes and its when these are turn on their heads we notice.
Sometime and this may also be a stereotype I think some of these women are lesbians. Not that this is saying anything about their worth. But short hair is also a fashion of some lesbian women. I think in some ways this is beause some do have a more masculline tendency such as what we would call 'butch' lesbians. BUt what % of this is stereotyping or is going against our natural tendency I am not sure.
There is some research that shows a link between the hormonal balance of some lesbians and men or transmen.
How this relates to the bible. I think Paul mentions something about hair and head coverings which is maybe related to the order in the church body and this representation between Christ the groom and the church bride. Which is related to the husband and wife and headship.
He cut my desire for carnal pleasures. Made it such that they are optional.Considering the verse was in reference to Adam. It is not good that the man be alone. Adam was the crowning glory of humanity along with Eve. Perfect in every way. Yet the God in his infinite wisdom did ordain for him a partner. Adam & Eve were once perfection and they required a mate yet yu be part of fallen humanity. So how much more in need of a mate. God did give the sexual desire. Sexual desire when two become is most beautiful for those of us who have experienced. You say yu can handle it. Perhaps with Gods help yu can . But certainly not on your own strength
The research I think is well supported but not conclusive as theres many unknown factors at present. But basically there are some people who have a in develop for various reasons are aligned with the opposite sexed brains in those particular areas.Steve you perhaps speak of the ladies who sort of look like GI Joe they have hair but it is shaven on their sides.. they do have masculine tendencies and seem attracted to the femininity of us long haired ladies often speaking with masculine authority to attract us. There may be some truth to the hormonal imbalance. As many from an early age seem to know what their sexual preference be. Be it woman or man for some it’s both
How this relates to the bible. I think Paul mentions something about hair and head coverings which is maybe related to the order in the church body and this representation between Christ the groom and the church bride. Which is related to the husband and wife and headship.
I don't know what things - not "thugs" by the way - you think I've ignored.I told specifically to give a list of thugs you misunderstand to quote from the scripture. Ignored that, and also ignored one of the abominations, which yourself said it was not.
If you mean "the link" you could have looked it up yourself in the time it too to write that.I would like the list. And stop attacking through the cracks.
I'm not angry - I was trying to understand your point of view and write an answer to the various statements in your post.Besides, this behavior of yours is typical to other liberal Christian women I've met. But, it will not help you. The anger will grow, and you won't be able to control it.
I never said that.If you did quoted them, this would end. The way you wrote replies, imply my writings were never in the bible in the first place.
No idea.Where is that reply about homosexuality (i believe i wrote to you, and ignored it for your benefit).
I'm quite capable of giving you a link, I just didn't.You are incapable of providing a link to a book, accuse of not searching for me, and you want a list of studies?
What do you want me to do; Google "what studies have been done on women with short hair"?As if you can't find them? No, you do not want to find them.
Force me to do what?Eventually, nature will force you.
I understand you are being rude on purpose.I understand you are being dense on purpose.
I already have salvation; I am saved.If you want salvation, you can do whatever you want.
Why would it?Short hair didn't exist until the recent years. If it had been something worthwhile it would have existed since the dawn of time.
Your few experiences at the gym do not mean that you've studied, or researched, the subject.I went to gym more than once. Stopped going because people started to take pictures of themselves, and not working out. They didn't care about health, they went as a means to showcase their passion for health. Taking all sorts of chemicals, and some socialized. Women heads turned, men heads turned, one trying to impress the other. Ungodly behaviors of modern times.
No, if they are Christians they will listen to what God is saying, tell him what they are feeling and will try to make a decision about what they think is right.It's only between them, not God. God told to be fruitful.
Well then, you stay on topic.And you, and other 3 women hijacked it to find things to attack with. I enourage the women on this thread to stick to the topic.
Not only can I not keep track of what you are saying, I don't understand it.You replied on a a comment by which is easier, long or short hair. You said it was easier short. I said easier long. Do you have to remind you to keep track of what you are saying?
You said that you're not judgemental, but then judged me.I'm not. You don't know what to do, even I told you. This is because I follow the bible in its entirely. You simply take shortcuts to salvation.
If it's any of your business, yes. When we were kids we had our hair washed with washing up liquid; didn't do us any harm.That being said, basic shampoo right? Basic.. nothing made for women, nothing meant to style, or moisturize.. basic, common, medium-priced, right?
That would be me, and proud to be able to attack this pious attempt of better-than-thou-ism BY STICKING TO THE TOPIC.And you, and other 3 women hijacked it to find things to attack with. I enourage the women on this thread to stick to the topic.
We had a discussion about abominations, and gave a verse, and you nothing said nothing about. Prior to that, you said it was not an abomination. Look at verse, and decide.I don't know what things - not "thugs" by the way - you think I've ignored.
I probably didn't; I probably decided the subject was too silly to keep debating.
It means you go on-off topic, and find things to attack with. As you did with thugs. It was a keyboard error. But you wouldn't know that, so my mistake.If you mean "the link" you could have looked it up yourself in the time it too to write that.
And I've no idea what "attacking through the cracks" is supposed to mean.
You are. It is known by the way you write. Ignoring replies, responding to what suits you, asking why repeatedly, and others.I'm not angry - I was trying to understand your point of view and write an answer to the various statements in your post.
You did, both directly, and indirectly. Look at your past replies, and see more than one reply which implies I do not know the scripture.I never said that.
I wrote to you. Find it. or you want me to? Because this what you do: create multiple topic of conversation, and then hide whatever has been said.No idea.
But the topic of the thread that you started is the length of women's hair.
Book - this is to see, how stupid you look, with that correction of yours.I'm quite capable of giving you a link, I just didn't.
I told you the name of the Bible; if you want to buy it I'm sure you're quite capable of going to Amazon and searching for it.
White-papers, and you go through them, not keyword-search. You have the nlm, go find.Yes, I wanted to know what studies you had read. Just saying, "I've read some studies" could mean that you've read half a dozen research papers that were produced by experts, or it could mean that you read someone's opinion on the internet.
I want you to your brain, not go for the easy route.What do you want me to do; Google "what studies have been done on women with short hair"?
To be a woman. Follow the thread of conversation, not just is front of you.Force me to do what?
You trashed this thread because of something that you react highly to.I understand you are being rude on purpose.
(Unless, of course, it's your nature and you can't help it.)
That would be something, considering the fact that no one knows for certain this. The judgement when your dead applies to your entire life, not just a piece of it. If you think when die, you go to God and say"... but I;m saved", you'll have a lot of disappointment.I already have salvation; I am saved.
And salvation has nothing to do with the length of hair a person has.
Because new things caused more problems than it solved.Why would it?
It does because gyms were not invented for health reasons. What you can do at the gym is nothing compared to what you can do at home. I have researched it.Your few experiences at the gym do not mean that you've studied, or researched, the subject.
In a marriage, the woman obeys her husband, and the husband obeys God. The husband is the ladder towards God.No, if they are Christians they will listen to what God is saying, tell him what they are feeling and will try to make a decision about what they think is right.
A Christian couple who made a decision like that without involving God, would not be honouring him in every part of their lives.
You took this direction, and have the audacity to tell me that it has nothing to with hair? Come back to the topic, and we'll talk about hair.Not that this has anything at all to do with hair.
I would. You those other 3 divert it.Well then, you stay on topic.
Yes, and I thought it was understood: men's opinion. Because a woman is biased. She is easily offended by this, so her thinking is altered. Ironically, women posted here, probably based on some impulse.In the title of this thread you are asking for people's opinions, and experiences, of women with short hair. In your first post you talk about the differences between short hair and long hair and what it means.
That is the topic of this thread - women with short, or long, hair.
Those were replies to you and those other women. My opinion on the matter is the first post, that is all. Everything else stems from whatever women threw at the thread.Then you started talking about women making changes after failed marriages, and linked hair length with women's intuition, forgetting their natures and the fact that a woman mustn't be indistinguishable from a man from the back. You've also talked about authority in marriage, having children and that women are "well groomed", (which is apparently a sin.)
None of this is about a woman's hair length, so it is off topic.
A person of faith would. Everyone else, has problems.Not only can I not keep track of what you are saying, I don't understand it.
So have you. Actually, you did this from the very first replies.You said that you're not judgemental, but then judged me.
Hair length has nothing to do with salvation. We can't do anything to be saved.
Jesus has already saved me.
Read the text above. Stop flaunting salvation. It is useless in this context, and the overuse of it, tells me something else...If it's any of your business, yes. When we were kids we had our hair washed with washing up liquid; didn't do us any harm.
Not that this has anything at all to do with salvation, or even the length of my hair.
You ignored every verse replied to you.And by the way, I have chosen not to answer every point that you made in your previous reply to me, because I don't intend wasting any more time on such a ridiculous subject.
I did. I wanted them on topic, and also wanted experiences from it.You wanted our opinions about long and short hair.
If you really did want my opinion, I've told you. If you want to argue about why your understanding of Scripture is correct - no thank you.
It's a sin, but you go ahead.That would be me, and proud to be able to attack this pious attempt of better-than-thou-ism BY STICKING TO THE TOPIC.
You know, when one has nothing to say, it goes after the most convenient thing to use. Politicians use this as a means to control the masses, and win some minds.A list of thugs from Scripture? I suppose Cain was the first......![]()