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They are working with the nephilim underground

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Well God may have locked them away for now or God may limit their activity. The Bible just simply does not say as to the current age and are they active or not. I know as time went on in The New Testament, less and less is seen of their activity mostly in Acts or all in Acts.

Everyone wasn’t imprisoned when they were rounded up, A portion was left on the earth. They go into detail in the book of jasher or jubilees. I can’t remember off the top of my head. But you needn’t reference acts. Who afflicts us today? There’s clearly a demonic element among us.

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well the bible talks about how they chained the angels that had intercourse with women, not the rest of them and the bible says there were fallen angels after the flood too.

They’re speaking of the watchers. Fallen angels are the ones who rebelled and were cast down.

There’s a lot of disinformation on the internet and a good understanding of controlled opposition is necessary. Some revelations are permitted by design and others are fatal.

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Everyone wasn’t imprisoned when they were rounded up, A portion was left on the earth. They go into detail in the book of jasher or jubilees. I can’t remember off the top of my head. But you needn’t reference acts. Who afflicts us today? There’s clearly a demonic element among us.

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Demon possession came with the possessed having extremely strong capabilities. Is that seen today.
 
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Are the demons you speak of nephilim or fallen angels?

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Demons are the disembodied spirit of the nephilim who were killed in the flood.

Mark 5
 
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Nephilim are not on the earth in physical bodies now. The coming antichrist/false prophet may possibly be a nephilim being that this person may be the actual seed of satan.
Satan may impregnate an unbelieving Jewish woman.
 
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But they say there were giants after the flood too and a third of the angels fell, but only 200 were chained. where did the other angels go as they sure did not return to heaven.
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No, nowhere does a Bible verse say there were nephilim after or some nephilim survived the flood.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

This verse is saying there were nephilim on the earth in those days referring to, the nephilim were on the earth, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them.

Those days are referring to the days that sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

Also in Number 13 where the spies say the nephilim were in the land God was going to give Israe. That was part of the lies of the bad report that all the spies gave to the Hebrews except for Caleb and Joshua. And God took the lives to the spies who gave this bad report about the land.

When Israel eventually conquered the land there is no account of the Hebrews battling the nephilim.

Nephilim actually means fallen ones in the Hebrew. They were not giants, but they were fallen because they were the offspring of fallen angels (sons of God) and daughters of men.
Giants does not come from the Hebrew, but from the Septuagint. Which translated the Hebrew word Nephilim as the Greek word gigentes.
 
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I'm skeptical of the idea of the idea of bases with fallen angels underground. I think the government is genuinely stumped, and still mostly toying with the extraterrestrial hypothesis. Many people are. Even though there's plenty of folkloric evidence that "UFO's" and "aliens" are a quite old phenomenon that predates modern space flight, going back thousands of years, and may be part of a conscious control system, similar to the "principalities and powers" mentioned in some of the Pauline epistles. They communicate through symbols, offer their own kinds of "communion", usually in the forms of symbolic, often intrusive, initiation rituals, sometimes sexual and coercive in nature. Playing around with them risks intellectual and spiritual seduction, and in some cases insanity, illness, or death. And there's a long record of their fear of Christian religious symbols and prayer.

The fact the US ranks highest in UFO sightings in the world per capita may be a sign that the US basically lays out a metaphysical welcome mat to everything of the occult, and might also represent a kind of divine judgment, perhaps the gates of the Abyss have been opened upon the United States? The rampant narcissism and unmoored spiritual yearning is an invitation to these beings, who often will attempt to play up the "choseness" of their victims, enticing them with intellectual and metaphysical seductions that appear deep but often amount to nonsensical riddles and seeming profundities devoid of context, or outright lies (like claiming to be from Mars, Venus, or Zeta Reticuli, even though we know for a fact none of those places can support intelligent life).
 
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The fact the US ranks highest in UFO sightings in the world per capita may be a sign that the US basically lays out a metaphysical welcome mat to everything of the occult,
I have a more pragmatic explanation. Tons of Americans are paranoid conspiracy theorists, tons of Americans are mentally ill, tons of Americans abuse drugs and there are many experimental projects tested, frequently covered as "UFOs". Combine this together and you have the result.

Not that the experimental projects are needed, I guess that the majority of people would not be able to distinguish some drone light show, Musk's satellites, circling helicopters or test flights of B-2 in night from an alien spaceship.
 
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I have a more pragmatic explanation. Tons of Americans are paranoid conspiracy theorists, tons of Americans are mentally ill, tons of Americans abuse drugs and there are many experimental projects tested, frequently covered as "UFOs". Combine this together and you have the result.

Not that the experimental projects are needed, I guess that the majority of people would not be able to distinguish some drone light show, Musk's satellites, circling helicopters or test flights of B-2 in night from an alien spaceship.

It's not a case of either/or, but both/and.
 
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Nephilim are not on the earth in physical bodies now. The coming antichrist/false prophet may possibly be a nephilim being that this person may be the actual seed of satan.
Satan may impregnate an unbelieving Jewish woman.

I think that's reading what is clearly symbolic, overly literally. Satan has no power to create life.
 
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I think that's reading what is clearly symbolic, overly literally. Satan has no power to create life.
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Men and women also do not have the power to create life, but children are born everyday.
 
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Men and women also do not have the power to create life, but children are born everyday.

Human beings participate in creating life owing to their vocation and nature. Demons do not.
 
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Human beings participate in creating life owing to their vocation and nature. Demons do not.
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Nerver said demons do, but angels on the other hand can. Genesis 6 testifies to this.
 
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Nerver said demons do, but angels on the other hand can. Genesis 6 testifies to this.

That text has multiple layers of symbolism, not all render that notion obvious. "Sons of god" knowing "daughters of men" can have multiple interpretations other than "angels procreating with women."

And angels, owing to their nature, can't actually breed with human beings. Jesus himself says angels don't reproduce (Matt 22:30).
 
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That text has multiple layers of symbolism, not all render that notion obvious. "Sons of god" knowing "daughters of men" can have multiple interpretations other than "angels procreating with women."

And angels, owing to their nature, can't actually breed with human beings. Jesus himself says angels don't reproduce (Matt 22:30).
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That is because the angles are all male in heaven. that is why Peter and Jude write.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
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And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
 
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That is because the angles are all male in heaven. that is why Peter and Jude write.

For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;

And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

Nowhere in the Bible does it say angels are biological males.
 
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Nowhere in the Bible does it say angels are biological males.
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yes, while I was speaking in prayer, the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, reached me about the time of the evening offering.
 
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