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Iran Erupts: Crowds Burn US Flags and Swear to Ayatollah

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Open your ears and eyes. Iran was working on a nuke and the means to deliver it even as far as our east coast. Do you really believe the Evil Islamic death to America cult would not use one once attained?
Got any expert with credible threat intelligence that Iran was anywhere close to a working ICBM that they were going to launch against a US target or is personal incredulity your only evidence?
 
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Anyone else remember before the election when the claim from Trumps supporters was he would not start any more wars?

<Looks to see how many supporters are decrying his current actions>
Silly goose! It's not a war.

It's a special military operation.
 
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I'm sorry, are you seriously trying to claim Iran was a credible threat to the United States and that the President gets to declare war without congressional approval?
Trump did not declare war! Previous actions by many Presidents show that a president is not required to seek permission from a group of numbskulls that can't pass a budget, close a border or actually understand what their jobs are, for every action by the military which is not a declaration of war. Yes a few are republicans but the majority of inept congress persons in recent history are far left liberal Democrats. You know as well as I if Trump had gone to congress some ignorant liberal in congress would leak and put at risk American service men and women.
 
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Got any expert with credible threat intelligence that Iran was anywhere close to a working ICBM that they were going to launch against a US target or is personal incredulity your only evidence?
The only evidence you would accept is one coming down on your own head. What is it with all of this liberal defense of an evil Islamic cult bent on world domination and destruction Israel and America? Help me understand the mindset of this madness.
 
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Trump did not declare war! Previous actions by many Presidents show that a president is not required to seek permission from a group of numbskulls that can't pass a budget, close a border or actually understand what their jobs are, for every action by the military which is not a declaration of war. Yes a few are republicans but the majority of inept congress persons in recent history are far left liberal Democrats. You know as well as I if Trump had gone to congress some ignorant liberal in congress would leak and put at risk American service men and women.
I'm sorry, you think bombing another country is NOT an act of war? Are you kidding us?
 
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The only evidence you would accept is one coming down on your own head.
Do not presume to speak for what I would or would not accept.

So I take it that is a "No" on having any experts with credible evidence of Iran having an operation ICBM that they are going to use to attack a US city in the near future?
What is it with all of this liberal defense of an evil Islamic cult bent on world domination and destruction Israel and America? Help me understand the mindset of this madness.
Wow, you can't even understand the difference between calling out the actions of our president and defense of Islam? These are the same thing to you? Are you really incapable of separating these two things?
 
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I hope this left no doubt as to Iran's intentions toward America.

I don't think anyone doubted that Iran, or at least Iran's government and propaganda work, was anti-American and overall anti-Western.

Though, uh, how do you think Americans would be acting if a nation bombed us? Like, do you imagine overflowing warm feelings and hand-holding circles?

In other words, yeah, we already knew the general sentiment over there; and this just made it worse. Yay?

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I don't think anyone doubted that Iran, or at least Iran's government and propaganda work, was anti-American and overall anti-Western.

Though, uh, how do you think Americans would be acting if a nation bombed us? Like, do you imagine overflowing warm feelings and hand-holding circles?

In other words, yeah, we already knew the general sentiment over there; and this just made it worse. Yay?

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Iran attacked American troops back in 2020, and since then has sponsored terrorist organizations that have targeted Americans. Hamas, backed by Iran, kidnapped both Israelis and Americans. The relationship has not been peaceful. In this case, after Iran refused requests from multiple countries, including European countries, nuclear facilities were the target by the U.S.
 
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I'm sorry, are you seriously trying to claim Iran was a credible threat to the United States and that the President gets to declare war without congressional approval?
I was unaware the President Trump declared war.

 
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I really don't think we are in a war , but if it comes to that it will be a short one.
US "short wars" usually last 1-2 decades and end in either a hasty retreat or leaving behind a puppet regime that soon collapses.
 
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Maybe, but no nation with nukes has ever been seriously attacked. They are a good deterrent so far though admittedly a very high stakes game.

First attack, yeah that seems to be the case, but in the last week two nuclear weapons states have been directly attacked (and one invaded) in response to earlier attacks by themselves: Russia and Israel. Both of which have been attacked by the countries they attacked first (Ukraine and Iran). No nuclear response.
 
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Wow, you can't even understand the difference between calling out the actions of our president and defense of Islam? These are the same thing to you? Are you really incapable of separating these two things?
Can you not see that what you identify as “calling out “ Trump is by default support of the evil Iranian death cult? Many on the left are so consumed with hating Trump that they fail to see the fact that Iranian Islamic leaders want them dead. It has long been the policy of this government predating Trump that Iran could never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon. Trump is doing what needs to be done. Those that don’t support that policy are on the wrong side of common sense.
 
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US "short wars" usually last 1-2 decades and end in either a hasty retreat or leaving behind a puppet regime that soon collapses.
There have been many surgical strikes in our past that did not result in a protracted war.
 
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Can you not see that what you identify as “calling out “ Trump is by default support of the evil Iranian death cult? Many on the left are so consumed with hating Trump that they fail to see the fact that Iranian Islamic leaders want them dead. It has long been the policy of this government predating Trump that Iran could never be allowed to possess a nuclear weapon. Trump is doing what needs to be done. Those that don’t support that policy are on the wrong side of common sense.
No, no I can not see that. Calling out my presidents actions that I see as wrong is not synonymous with defending the actions of Iran no matter how incapable you are are of seeing the distinction. I am fully on board with Iran not having nuclear weapons while at the same time calling out the president for his unilateral action. It is to bad you fail to see the distinction.
 
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I was unaware the President Trump declared war.

So you don't think the US bombing another country is an act of war? You think if Iran dropped bombs on three of our nuclear sites we would not consider that an act of war?
 
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No, no I can not see that. Calling out my presidents actions that I see as wrong is not synonymous with defending the actions of Iran no matter how incapable you are are of seeing the distinction. I am fully on board with Iran not having Nuclear weapons while at the same time calling out the president for his unilateral action. It is to bad you fail to see the distinction.
Well now that is interesting. Your plan for stopping Iran from attaining those weapons is exactly what? Depending on the powerless UN, or making an unenforceable agreement they would never honor? Or maybe sending a pretty please message? You say you are against them having a nuke but your posts only show you are solidly against Trump.
 
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So you don't think the US bombing another country is an act of war? You think if Iran dropped bombs on three of our nuclear sites we would not consider that an act of war?
Do you not the difference between a declaration of war and a targeted military operation?
 
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Personally, I wish the US would have refrained from this current conflict.

Iranian society has been deeply split for generations in its viewpoints. While a large segment supports the ruling authority, many others do not. Working for the government means showing up for government demonstrations. Even this is not totally clear since some government workers don’t necessarily support oppression.


Many Iranians are anti Hamas and ambivalent towards Israel. Whatever is done in the current warfare should take extreme care towards Iranian civilians and minimize any lurch towards common cause.




 
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Do you not the difference between a declaration of war and a targeted military operation?
I know that the distinction is not well defined and has been a contentious one between more than one President and Congress. However, the War Powers Act requires the President to consult with Congress "in every possible instance" before fielding combat forces.
 
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