It started with Darwin but it doesn't end with Darwin.

[BCP1928]

Your comrades in academia are the ones who put Darwin up on a pedestal.*

I'm knocking him off that pedestal.

So I understand where you'd think I'm being arrogant.

* Four times: capitol city, bank note, grand title, grand burial.

OK, you've knocked him off the Pedestal. Why should we care?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Your comrades in academia are the ones who put Darwin up on a pedestal.*

I'm knocking him off that pedestal.

So I understand where you'd think I'm being arrogant.

* Four times: capitol city, bank note, grand title, grand burial.

First off: I'm a retail worker. I'm not in academia. Thus, all that shows is you are hellbent on lancing whatever windmill you see as the giant of academia.

Secondly: you're doing nothing of the sort. You do nothing of the sort. All you do is show your own ignorance in the subject matter, an ignorance you're proud of (and I refuse to denigrate myself by using that godawful spelling and grammar you use for it), and you revel in it too. I call that arrogance.

 

[AV1611VET]

OK, you've knocked him off the Pedestal. Why should we care?

Just don't get me wound up with Darwin and his book.

Or I'll get moderated comparing it to another book written by another amanuensis 66 years later.

 

[Ophiolite]

Just don't get me wound up with Darwin and his book.

Or I'll get moderated comparing it to another book written by another amanuensis 66 years later.

Why are you obsessed with Darwin and his book, but ignore the tens of thousands of other books and the hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of research papers on evolution published since then? Easier to attack a dead man?

 

[Ophiolite]

Just don't get me wound up with Darwin and his book.

Or I'll get moderated comparing it to another book written by another amanuensis 66 years later.

Comparing On the Origin of Species with Mein Kampf in the manner I would expect from you would probably be worthy of moderation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why are you obsessed with Darwin and his book, but ignore the tens of thousands of other books and the hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of research papers on evolution published since then? Easier to attack a dead man?

Because it started out wrong, then just got wronger and wronger.

In addition, well ... it's a matter of who the real author is.

You can have "tens of thousands" of books written about this or that, but it's the author that gets some peoples' attention.

Not to mention a book's sequel by the same author.

Like I said, I really had better not discuss it for sensitivity reasons.

 

[AV1611VET]

Comparing On the Origin of Species with Mein Kampf in the manner I would expect from you would probably be worthy of moderation.

What about comparing the titles:

The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life -- and -- My Struggles?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Because it started out wrong, then just got wronger and wronger.

In addition, well ... it's a matter of who the real author is.

You can have "tens of thousands" of books written about this or that, but it's the author that gets some peoples' attention.

Not to mention a book's sequel by the same author.

Like I said, I really had better not discuss it for sensitivity reasons.

You basically claim that On the Origin of Species, and thus evolution itself, was created by the devil.

Don't dance around the issue.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

What about comparing the titles:

The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life -- and -- My Struggles?

Disingenuous and incorrect, as has been pointed out to you many, MANY times before now.

 

[AV1611VET]

You basically claim that On the Origin of Species, and thus evolution itself, was created by the devil.

Don't dance around the issue.

And don't trick me into getting moderated.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And don't trick me into getting moderated.

Why is it tricking you when I just come out and say what you're obviously refusing to outright say?

 

[J_B_]

This is something that needs to be really hammered home.

Charles Darwin got things wrong. Charles Darwin was not a perfect man. Charles Darwin was a product of his time. Charles Darwin didn't know everything at all about science.

These are statements that are true. All of those do nothing to prove that the theory of evolution is not scientific. These claims and their ilk, spurious and misguided as they come, do nothing to falsify evolution as a legitimate scientific theory.

Evolution stands on scientific evidence and scientific evidence alone. Darwin definitely helped get the ball rolling with regards to evolution as science, but it does not end with him at all.

Science is a messy thing.

 

[Shemjaza]

Science is a messy thing.

Yet both effective and self correcting.

 

[The Barbarian]

I appears that he is trying to pursuade us that we must take Darwin as scripture.

Some people just aren't worth talking to or responding to.

My Mom used to say that no one was useless; they could always be a bad example.

 

[J_B_]

Yet both effective and self correcting.

It has been a major force for centuries now. It can be hard, though, to pinpoint every cause for every ebb and flow.

 

[Hans Blaster]

My Mom used to say that no one was useless; they could always be a bad example.

We've got plenty of examples of their nonsense from interactions with new and non-regular users of this board. There is no reason for regular participants to reply to the same old personal gripes, invectives, etc. that feed their egos. Don't give that power to the ill-behaved. (R.E.M. had a song with an appropriate title in the 90s. Sing it with me -- Ig-noooore-land .)

 

[J_B_]

We've got plenty of examples of their nonsense from interactions with new and non-regular users of this board. There is no reason for regular participants to reply to the same old personal gripes, invectives, etc. that feed their egos. Don't give that power to the ill-behaved. (R.E.M. had a song with an appropriate title in the 90s. Sing it with me -- Ig-noooore-land .)

Agreed. If you don't want to encourage what you consider to be nonsense, then don't respond to it. I suspect, though, that many here enjoying baiting.

Is that why you and I never talk?

 

[Hans Blaster]

Agreed. If you don't want to encourage what you consider to be nonsense, then don't respond to it. I suspect, though, that many here enjoying baiting.

exactly.

Is that why you and I never talk?

Who are you?

 

[AV1611VET]

Science is a messy thing.

That's an understatement.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yet both effective and self correcting.

Um ... would you like to see some of their pictures?

There are some things science leaves behind that can't be corrected.