U.S. Senator Alex Padilla Forcibly Removed and Arrested For Heckling DHS Secretary Kristi Noem During Press Briefing (VIDEO)

[The Barbarian]

Mussolini new about MAGA?

He's old about MAGA. Nothing really new about the urge to become a dictator. Happens a lot.

Yes but he could be there but being there doesn't give him a RIGHT to disrupt the press briefing and act the way he did.

After all, he asked a question at a press conference. The nerve! Oh wait, that's what press conferences are for. Never mind.

I guess we are just going in circles now.

One excuse is as good as another by now. She messed up, and there were cameras around to document it.

 

[The Barbarian]

What sophistry is this??? They were her subordinates acting in her presence. The responsibility is entirely hers.

Today's winner.

 

[BCP1928]

She did not give the security detail permission to remove him. The security detail removed him because they believed that he posed a threat. The security detail never asked Noem if she wanted him removed.

And because they were her subordinates they did what they thought their duty to be with the tacit approval of their boss.

 

[Hentenza]

He's old about MAGA. Nothing really new about the urge to become a dictator. Happens a lot.

As much as I don’t like Trump that would not be my take. Historically most presidents before him wanted more power but not necessarily wanted to be dictators. You can look at William Taft or Teddy Roosevelt as examples. Teddy’s bully pulpit would have been attacked by today’s left probably just as vigorously.

 

[Hentenza]

And because they were her subordinates they did what they thought their duty to be with the tacit approval of their boss.

Many people are her subordinates but the secret service is a bit more independent. I’m yet to see the secret service presented with a treat and asking for permission to take care of it.

 

[BCP1928]

Many people are her subordinates but the secret service is a bit more independent. I’m yet to see the secret service presented with a treat and asking for permission to take care of it.

Still, she could have stopped them at any time. He announced himself, to her and she knew him personally but she let it play out.

It is interesting to note that the purpose of the press conference was to discuss the Trump's plan in LA to "liberate the city from socialism" as she put it.

 

[BPPLEE]

I see... it was all a clever plot by the evil liberals to ask a question at a news conference, knowing that thugs would respond with violence. You sure that's on the Senator?


How would he know she was going to respond to a question by having her people assault him?


Well, it was a pretty back look. Noem seems to have not realized that cell phones would be documenting the attack.


The video shows that was all he did. Why deny what's there on video?

Noem had nothing to do with it.
She didn't instruct anyone to do anything.
Unless you are asserting that she somehow knew the senator was going to interrupt and instructed her security detail to respond this way. She would have to be psychic but if you want to go with that, okay

 

[BPPLEE]

What sophistry is this??? They were her subordinates acting in her presence. The responsibility is entirely hers.

She continued speaking and wasn't paying any attention to what security did. The FBI cuffed him, they don't fall under the DHS they are under the DOJ.
So they were not all her subordinates

 

[The Barbarian]

As much as I don’t like Trump that would not be my take. Historically most presidents before him wanted more power but not necessarily wanted to be dictators. You can look at William Taft or Teddy Roosevelt as examples. Teddy’s bully pulpit would have been attacked by today’s left probably just as vigorously.

Well, let's take a look...

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” ​

Theodore Roosevelt ​

The Taft administration’s early 20th-century equivalent to the Musk-run Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, was called the Commission on Economy and Efficiency.

Unlike DOGE, created by presidential fiat via an executive order, Taft’s efficiency commission was funded by Congress.

Taft also delegated the work of this reorganization to trusted Cabinet subordinates, rather than an outsider who was not confirmed by Congress. Other presidents of Taft’s generation would have found it unthinkable to delegate such consequential work to someone outside of the bureaucracy to the extent that Trump has empowered Musk.

How William Howard Taft’s approach to government efficiency differed from Elon Musk’s slash-and-burn tactics

Musk’s slashing of government jobs, programs and departments isn’t the first effort by a president’s appointee to streamline government. William Howard Taft tried to do it − but very differently.

theconversation.com

 

[Postvieww]

The nature of the security team's response is actually beside the point when you consider two salient facts:

1. Senator Padilla had an absolute legal right to be there, whether he was invited or had an appointment or not.
2. Noem knew who he was.

1. He acted in a disrespectful, aggressive, unprofessional, childish, ignorant, unbecoming of a US senator. 2. What is it about those facts do liberals who are defending this showboater not understand?

 

[BPPLEE]

Still, she could have stopped them at any time. He announced himself, to her and she knew him personally but she let it play out.

It is interesting to note that the purpose of the press conference was to discuss the Trump's plan in LA to "liberate the city from socialism" as she put it.

Watch the video. Noem has no idea who security is dealing with and she just keeps talking.
I don't think she knew who it was until afterwards, then she agreed to meet with the senator

 

[BPPLEE]

And because they were her subordinates they did what they thought their duty to be with the tacit approval of their boss.

The FBI doesn't work for Noem

 

[BPPLEE]

He's old about MAGA. Nothing really new about the urge to become a dictator. Happens a lot.


After all, he asked a question at a press conference. The nerve! Oh wait, that's what press conferences are for. Never mind.


One excuse is as good as another by now. She messed up, and there were cameras around to document it.

She didn't do anything. How is that messing up?
She just kept speaking.
I don't think she had any idea who security was dealing with until afterwards and then she agreed to meet with the senator

 

[Belk]

1. He acted in a disrespectful, aggressive, unprofessional, childish, ignorant, unbecoming of a US senator. 2. What is it about those facts do liberals who are defending this showboater not understand?

Labeling your opinion as fact does not lend it weight.

 

[BCP1928]

1. He acted in a disrespectful, aggressive, unprofessional, childish, ignorant, unbecoming of a US senator. 2. What is it about those facts do liberals who are defending this showboater not understand?

1. Because they are matters of judgement not of fact.
2. It has been asserted that he had no right to be there, which is false.

Anyway, whatever his motives or hers, what he did turned out to be a good thing, because it brought more media attention to the press conference, which was called so that Noem could lay out her plans to use her paramilitary police to, as she put it, "Liberate Los Angeles from Socialism" which is just plain creepy.

 

[Hentenza]

Still, she could have stopped them at any time. He announced himself, to her and she knew him personally but she let it play out.

I don’t think she even realized what was going on until later.

It is interesting to note that the purpose of the press conference was to discuss the Trump's plan in LA to "liberate the city from socialism" as she put it.

Yes.

 

[Postvieww]

Labeling your opinion as fact does not lend it weight.

Not my opinion. Facts that liberals refuse to acknowledge. Typical of those who think the LA riots were “mostly peaceful “, Joe Biden was “sharp as a tack”, murders, gang members, rapist , child abusers , drug dealers, and human traffickers are just immigrants seeking a better life. Maybe I do expect too much.

 

[BCP1928]

I don’t think she even realized what was going on until later.

Yes.

But you don't think it's creepy.

 

[rjs330]

Their job is to assault someone asking questions at a press conference? You sure about that?

Didn't happen.

 

[rjs330]

What sophistry is this??? They were her subordinates acting in her presence. The responsibility is entirely hers.

She didn't have him removed.