This kind of behavior was invented by the left. Its SOP for them, especially now. So it's considered normal behavior and they'd dont see anything wrong with it.
-
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
U.S. Senator Alex Padilla Forcibly Removed and Arrested For Heckling DHS Secretary Kristi Noem During Press Briefing (VIDEO)
- Thread starter Valletta
- Start date
Hentenza
I will fear no evil for You are with me
- Mar 27, 2007
- 35,276
- 4,187
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Baptist
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Others
The contrast between Roosevelt and Taft is well documented which is why I mentioned both in my post. Roosevelt was brash and believed that any power that was not explicitly prohibited by the constitution was his for the taking. Taft on the other hand offered a much tempered.Well, let's take a look...
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Theodore Roosevelt
The Taft administration’s early 20th-century equivalent to the Musk-run Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, was called the Commission on Economy and Efficiency.
Unlike DOGE, created by presidential fiat via an executive order, Taft’s efficiency commission was funded by Congress.
Taft also delegated the work of this reorganization to trusted Cabinet subordinates, rather than an outsider who was not confirmed by Congress. Other presidents of Taft’s generation would have found it unthinkable to delegate such consequential work to someone outside of the bureaucracy to the extent that Trump has empowered Musk.
How William Howard Taft’s approach to government efficiency differed from Elon Musk’s slash-and-burn tactics
Musk’s slashing of government jobs, programs and departments isn’t the first effort by a president’s appointee to streamline government. William Howard Taft tried to do it − but very differently.theconversation.com
“The Constitution requires the president to report to Congress on the state of the union and permits him or her only to “recommend measures” for their consideration. Roosevelt took these constitutional provisions much further, sending more than 400 messages to Congress. Critics objected to Roosevelt’s energetic approach to the presidency. They believed his approach was in direct opposition to the Founders’ belief, expressed in the Tenth Amendment, that powers not granted to the federal government were reserved to the states and the people. Roosevelt did not accept this criticism. He later said, “While president … I have not cared a rap for the criticisms of those who spoke of my ‘usurpation of power’… I have felt not merely that my action was right in itself, but that in showing the strength of, or in giving strength to, the executive, I was establishing a precedent of value.”
Here is another narrative of the contrast between the two.
“Theodore Roosevelt, President of the United States from 1901-1909, embodied what many scholars typically refer to as the ‘stewardship presidency.’ In the words of Roosevelt, it is the president’s “duty to do anything that the needs of the nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws.” Under Roosevelt’s expansionist view, anything the president does is considered acceptable unless it is expressly forbidden by the Constitution or laws passed by Congress. Roosevelt believed he served the people, not just the government. He took many actions as president that stretched the limits of the executive branch, including the creation of national parks without regard for states’ jurisdiction and fostering revolt in Colombia to establish the Panama Canal.
On the other hand, William Howard Taft, President of the United States from 1909-1913, embodied what many scholars refer to as a ‘strict constructionist’ model of the presidency. Under this approach, unless the Constitution or Congress explicitly grants a certain power, the president does not have the right to act. In Taft’s words, “the President can exercise no power which cannot be fairly and reasonably traced to some specific grant of power or justly implied and included within such express grant as proper and necessary to its exercise.”
Approaching the Presidency: Roosevelt & Taft - Ethics Unwrapped
Some presidents view their responsibilities in strictly legal terms, others according to duty. Roosevelt and Taft took two extreme approaches.
ethicsunwrapped.utexas.edu
Other Roosevelt quotes:
“I believe in a strong executive; I believe in power, but I believe that responsibility should go with power, and that it is not well that the strong executive should be a perpetual executive.”
That’s all I have time to find for now. There is much more. The point that I was making is that Roosevelt exercise his power much more liberally and forcefully than Taft. These are two different views that are burned in the annals of history and both valid.
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Here's relevant facts. El Paso, TX has the largest concentration of illegal aliens in the U.S. And it's one of the safest metropolitan areas in the United States. All that dreck about criminals and people eating cats is just stories to convince the gullible.
This policy analysis is the latest paper that attempts to resolve those data disputes by relying on detailed crime data from Texas. Over the 10-year period from 2013 to 2022, the homicide conviction rate in Texas for illegal immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000, compared to 3.0 per 100,000 for native-born Americans. The homicide conviction rate for legal immigrants in Texas was 1.2 per 100,000. Illegal immigrants were 26 percent less likely than native-born Americans to be convicted of homicide, and legal immigrants were 61 percent less likely. Criminal conviction data for crimes other than homicide are included, but readers should interpret them with caution because the quality of the data is suspect. The conviction and arrest rates of illegal and legal immigrants, separately and together, were lower than those of native-born Americans for homicide and all crimes in Texas during the 2013–2022 period.
As you suggest, we'd do better to compile some actual data. Just as the video ruins the narrative for Noem, Texas crime statistics torpedoes the narrative about criminal aliens.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Their job is to assault someone asking questions at a press conference? You sure about that?
There's a video. No point in denial.
There's a video. No point in denial.
Upvote
0
No, I would not call them facts as I know the difference between facts and opinions. They do not change based on the person but on objective reality. No, the video does not magically change opinions into facts. That is not a thing that can happen.
Upvote
0
That research has been debunked by the Center for Immigration Studies.
Now I am aware that both sides have gone back and forth each blaming the other for presenting bad information. And both sides defend their positions.
You will believe yours and I'll believe mine.
But even if your side is correct and illegals commit fewer homicides, its irrelevant. They arw ALL criminals who have broken the law to come here. And crime would drop if they all left. Rhere would be fewer victims.
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Nice try. The data on crime rates for illegal aliens and native-born Americans were prepared by the State of Texas. Which repeatedly debunked your guys' faked statistics.
Are we surprised? El Paso has topped the list for safest city in the country, according a MattressNextDay's ranking.
The online retailed ranked the safest 24-hour cities based on factors like crime rates, public safety measures and late-night infrastructure. El Paso was first, and one of four Texas cities that made the list.
El Paso tops list of safest cities in country, according to new study
A new study says El Paso is the safest city in the country. Do you agree?
www.elpasotimes.com
El Paso leads nation in migrant encounters
Surprising, no? The safest city in the US is the one with the most illegal aliens there.
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration research organization founded in 1985 that advocates a reduction in immigration numbers. CIS was founded by environmentalist, nativist, and anti-immigration activist John Tanton, who was also instrumental in founding the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), and NumbersUSA. CIS policy stances include a revision of policy on birthright citizenship, support for public charge rules, and opposition to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), sanctuary city jurisdictions, and family-based immigration, which it refers to as chain migration. CIS has promoted anti-Muslim rhetoric and shares endorsements from anti-Muslim figures, including former U.S. Attorney General and Senator Jeff Sessions and Frank Gaffney. The Trump administration has close ties to CIS and has referred to its research in speeches, television advertisements, and advocation of the Muslim Ban.
Factsheet: Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) - Bridge Initiative
IMPACT: The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration research organization founded in 1985 that advocates a reduction in immigration numbers. CIS was founded by environmentalist, nativist, and anti-immigration activist John Tanton, who was...
bridge.georgetown.edu
Yes, I can hear the excuses: "The State of Texas is run by a pack of liberals, trying to replace us with illegal immigrants."
But it doesn't sound very credible to me.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Upvote
0
Nice try, but smear some other group. They were correct on this and your guy was incorrect.Nice try. The data on crime rates for illegal aliens and native-born Americans were prepared by the State of Texas. Which repeatedly debunked your guys' faked statistics.
Are we surprised? El Paso has topped the list for safest city in the country, according a MattressNextDay's ranking.
The online retailed ranked the safest 24-hour cities based on factors like crime rates, public safety measures and late-night infrastructure. El Paso was first, and one of four Texas cities that made the list.
El Paso tops list of safest cities in country, according to new study
A new study says El Paso is the safest city in the country. Do you agree?www.elpasotimes.com
El Paso leads nation in migrant encounters
Surprising, no? The safest city in the US is the one with the most illegal aliens there.
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration research organization founded in 1985 that advocates a reduction in immigration numbers. CIS was founded by environmentalist, nativist, and anti-immigration activist John Tanton, who was also instrumental in founding the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), and NumbersUSA. CIS policy stances include a revision of policy on birthright citizenship, support for public charge rules, and opposition to the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program (DACA), sanctuary city jurisdictions, and family-based immigration, which it refers to as chain migration. CIS has promoted anti-Muslim rhetoric and shares endorsements from anti-Muslim figures, including former U.S. Attorney General and Senator Jeff Sessions and Frank Gaffney. The Trump administration has close ties to CIS and has referred to its research in speeches, television advertisements, and advocation of the Muslim Ban.
Factsheet: Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) - Bridge Initiative
IMPACT: The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is an anti-immigration research organization founded in 1985 that advocates a reduction in immigration numbers. CIS was founded by environmentalist, nativist, and anti-immigration activist John Tanton, who was...
Yes, I can hear the excuses: "The State of Texas is run by a pack of liberals, trying to replace us with illegal immigrants."
But it doesn't sound very credible to me.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
The State of Texas has it wrong on immigrant crime? You sure you want to argue that? Your fake immigration group lied to you. You honestly think the people running Texas are pro-immigration? C'mon.
Upvote
0
DaisyDay
I Did Nothing Wrong!! ~~Team Deep State
- Jan 7, 2003
- 41,723
- 19,785
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Female
- Faith
- Unitarian
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Others
‘Petty and unserious’: Padilla blasts Vance for calling him ‘Jose Padilla’
The vice president referred to his former Senate colleague by the wrong name on Friday.
“He knows my name,” Padilla told MSNBC Saturday morning. “Look, sadly it’s just an indicator of how petty and unserious this administration is. He’s the vice president of the United States. You’d think he’d take the situation in Los Angeles more seriously.”
The vice president referred to his former Senate colleague by the wrong name on Friday.
“He knows my name,” Padilla told MSNBC Saturday morning. “Look, sadly it’s just an indicator of how petty and unserious this administration is. He’s the vice president of the United States. You’d think he’d take the situation in Los Angeles more seriously.”
Yes, that JD! Such a class act always.
Upvote
0
The Barbarian
Crabby Old White Guy
- Apr 3, 2003
- 29,145
- 12,994
- 78
- Country
- United States
- Gender
- Male
- Faith
- Catholic
- Marital Status
- Married
- Politics
- US-Libertarian
Who has put his or her faith in Trump and not become degraded as Vance has become?
Upvote
0
Similar threads
