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U.S. Senator Alex Padilla Forcibly Removed and Arrested For Heckling DHS Secretary Kristi Noem During Press Briefing (VIDEO)

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As good? No, I don't think that's correct. I honestly feel slightly embarrassed reading some of the schoolyard level posts in this thread. Unsubscribing.
As good? No, I don't think that's correct. I honestly feel slightly embarrassed reading some of the schoolyard level posts in this thread. Unsubscribing.
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People like Noem will resort to force when challenged. It's the way of the extremist.
People like Noem? I dont think she assaulted anyone there. Nor did she tell anyone to assault anyone. She was just reading from her speech.
 
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Again with the "lunging". A man struggling to stay on his feet while being shoved backwards is not "lunging" at anyone. This is like when the cops grab a suspect's arms and tell him to put his hands behind his back, but he can't because they're holding his arms, so they cite him for "resisting arrest."
Incorrect. Security tried to grab a disruptive individual who pulled away from them and pushed forward. As you watch he deliberately was pushing against them as they were pushing him out of the room. They stopped pushing like that when he gave up. Yes he tried to keep his balance, but he also pushed against them.
 
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The only violence I see here is coming from the federal agents forcibly removing a US Senator.
Nonsense! This so called senator got exactly what he wanted. He wanted to be cuffed. It was his own staff who took the video. A well planned stunt by a relatively unknown senator who need 15 min of fame for fund raising. A well executed plan!
 
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Nonsense! This so called senator got exactly what he wanted. He wanted to be cuffed. It was his own staff who took the video. A well planned stunt by a relatively unknown senator who need 15 min of fame for fund raising. A well executed plan!
Whatever you believe his motivations to be, he is a senator. Not a "so-called" senator. He's not making his title up, or calling himself something he is not, or otherwise lying about his position in government - that's what labelling someone as a "so-called" [whatever] means.
 
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Again with the "lunging". A man struggling to stay on his feet while being shoved backwards is not "lunging" at anyone. This is like when the cops grab a suspect's arms and tell him to put his hands behind his back, but he can't because they're holding his arms, so they cite him for "resisting arrest."

Perhaps he assumed that the Secretary would recognize a Senator - especially one who she has had multiple meetings and hearings with given his position on the committee that oversees her department. Perhaps he assumed that the federal agents he was accompanied by had informed the secretary's detail of his identity. Perhaps he assumed that the Secretary's detail would recognize one of the two Senators for the state they were currently in. Or perhaps it didn't even cross his mind that someone walking to the front of the room to ask questions at a press briefing would get this sort of response. There are probably infinitely more potential reasons, but you'd have to ask Senator Padilla if you want the real answer.
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Again with the "lunging". A man struggling to stay on his feet while being shoved backwards is not "lunging" at anyone. This is like when the cops grab a suspect's arms and tell him to put his hands behind his back, but he can't because they're holding his arms, so they cite him for "resisting arrest."

Where do the police do this?
I've been in law enforcement and security for over 30 years and I have never done this.
I have charged many people with resisting arrest but they were actually resisting.
No need to make false charges
 
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Whatever you believe his motivations to be, he is a senator. Not a "so-called" senator. He's not making his title up, or calling himself something he is not, or otherwise lying about his position in government - that's what labelling someone as a "so-called" [whatever] means.
What it means is the man is elected as a senator BUT chose to act in an irresponsible irrational manner unbecoming of a sitting US senator. He got what he wanted and he is a disgrace to the to office he holds. I hope that clears up what I meant.
 
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The manhandling of a Senator is visible, yes.
You are absolutely correct! He got what he wanted and what he deserved and what any other person who pulled that stunt would have. Defense of this showboating senator is ridiculous .
 
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Nonsense! This so called senator got exactly what he wanted. He wanted to be cuffed. It was his own staff who took the video. A well planned stunt by a relatively unknown senator who need 15 min of fame for fund raising. A well executed plan!
Relatively unknown? Just because you’re uninformed doesn’t make the senior Senator of the largest most populous state in the union “relatively unknown”. He’s known by the about 40 million people who live in his state.

And none of this changes the point I made that the only violence seen in that video is coming from the agents who needlessly detained Senator Padilla.
 
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Relatively unknown? Just because you’re uninformed doesn’t make the senior Senator of the largest most populous state in the union “relatively unknown”. He’s known by the about 40 million people who live in his state.

And none of this changes the point I made that the only violence seen in that video is coming from the agents who needlessly detained Senator Padilla.
You are letting your political bias cloud the facts here. ANY person who did what this showboating senator did would get the same treatment he got and deserved. Actually he wanted this to happen, his staff were ready and waiting to record the video of him being cuffed. The agents did their job. They should be thanked instead of being maligned. But then that is the liberal way. BTW on the national stage he was relatively unknown. But now everyone knows who he is . Great for his fundraising!
 
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People like Noem? I dont think she assaulted anyone there.
She had people to do that for her. This is the lady who shot a puppy for being difficult to train, and then shot a goat just ... because. Violence seems to be her favorite tool when frustrated.

You are letting your political bias cloud the facts here. ANY person who did what this showboating senator did would get the same treatment he got and deserved.
Asking a question at a press conference is punishable by physical assault and handcuffing? But then that is the MAGA way.
 
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Actually he wanted this to happen, his staff were ready and waiting to record the video of him being cuffed.
I see... it was all a clever plot by the evil liberals to ask a question at a news conference, knowing that thugs would respond with violence. You sure that's on the Senator?
 
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Asking a question at a press conference is punishable by physical assault and handcuffing? But then that is the MAGA way.
That is not what happened but it is the liberal false narrative. He was not assaulted as you claim . He was out of order and chose to act in an irresponsible manner which would have gotten anyone else cuffed. What law enforcement did was completely commendable. Being a senator does not give one a license to be an idiot.
 
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She had people to do that for her.
She did? I dont think she said a word about it. Where on the video does she ask security to assault someone for her?

Asking a question at a press conference is punishable by physical assault and handcuffing?
He disrupted the press conference. The rest of the people there were listening to Noem make her statements. He decided to interrupt her, disrupt the entire conference and when security tried to intervene he decided to push back and continue to be disruptive.
 
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I see... it was all a clever plot by the evil liberals to ask a question at a news conference, knowing that thugs would respond with violence. You sure that's on the Senator?
I believe it was a plot by the senator to make the news. It was his staff who were ready and waiting to take the video of him being cuffed. Great for liberal propaganda and fundraising. He was out of line and all of this “oh he just wanted to ask a question “ is complete liberal nonsense.
 
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I believe it was a plot by the senator to make the news. It was his staff who were ready and waiting to take the video of him being cuffed. Great for liberal propaganda and fundraising. He was out of line and all of this “oh he just wanted to ask a question “ is complete liberal nonsense.
It did look planned and he got his ten minutes of fame and a thread here on CF. Not bad.
 
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I see... it was all a clever plot by the evil liberals to ask a question at a news conference, knowing that thugs would respond with violence. You sure that's on the Senator?

I believe it was a plot by the senator to make the news.
How would he know she was going to respond to a question by having her people assault him?

Great for liberal propaganda and fundraising.
Well, it was a pretty back look. Noem seems to have not realized that cell phones would be documenting the attack.

He was out of line and all of this “oh he just wanted to ask a question “ is complete liberal nonsense.
The video shows that was all he did. Why deny what's there on video?
 
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