President Trump Signs Executive Order on School Discipline Policies Revoking Racist Obama-Biden DEI Guidance to Discipline Students Based on Skin Colo

[Oompa Loompa]

Remember, white people include women.

Obviously, but I don't see how that changes anything I stated.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Obviously, but I don't see how that changes anything I stated.

The Commandant of the Coast Guard was fired on day one, the Chief of Naval Operations was fired in February. One had unanimous Senate approval, the other had a Kansas Republican vote no. It would seem that if these people weren't qualified for the position then there would have been more opposition to their appointments.

 

[rjs330]

No. DEI tries to reverse years of discrimination and unfairness.

So discrimination is the way to end discrimination?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

I didn't know Barack Obama was white.

what is your point?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

That is absolutely not true. Show me an example where a federal employee was let go because they were white. However, with DEI, there are numerous examples of unqualified minorities getting the job because they checked a box.

I admit, there have been instances where less qualified people of color were hired over more qualified white candidates to maintain diversity in the company.

But so what ?

For the past 250 years, people of color have been overlooked or deemed unworthy of certain jobs by society. Now that a few white individuals are experiencing pushback, there is an outcry. Where were all the advocates for "qualification over race or gender" during the last 250 years when people of color were marginalized?

 

[RDKirk]

No. DEI tries to reverse years of discrimination and unfairness.

Nah, that's not what DEI is about.

First, let's remember that descendants of American slavery and Native Americans are the only groups that can argue they have "years of discrimination and unfairness" to reverse. That concept does not apply to immigrants or white women or LGBTQ+...individuals in those groups are not in cultural or social situations created by "years of discrimination and unfairness."

Let me break that down: There are no white woman ghettos. There are no LGBTQ+ ghettos. If a white woman has been discriminated against, that's on an individual basis...her whole family for generations has not been held back for being white women, her whole neighborhood has not suffered for decades for being a white woman neighborhood. She doesn't have that argument...any discrimination she's suffered for specifically for being a white woman has been personal, not generational. The same is true of LGBTQ+

Yet, the only thing DEI brought on top of Affirmative Action was just more discrimination in favor primarily of white women and LGBTQ+. It didn't bring anything additional for people who can validly argue that they've suffered "years of discrimination and unfairness." Statistics show that black people are at the bottom of the list of people who have been benefitted by DEI. At the top of the list: White women followed by LGBTQ+. Black people have been saps for getting on that bandwagon.

As I've said before, however, the real point is that DEI implements neo-Marxist ideology of eternal class conflict.

 

[Fantine]

Nah, that's not what DEI is about.

First, let's remember that descendants of American slavery and Native Americans are the only groups that can argue they have "years of discrimination and unfairness" to reverse. That concept does not apply to immigrants or white women or LGBTQ+...individuals in those groups are not in cultural or social situations created by "years of discrimination and unfairness."

Let me break that down: There are no white woman ghettos. There are no LGBTQ+ ghettos. If a white woman has gotten discriminated against, that's on an individual basis...her whole family for generations has not been held back for being white women, her whole neighborhood has not suffered for being a white woman neighborhood for decades. She doesn't have that argument...any discrimination she's suffered for specifically for being a white woman has been personal, not generational, and it's been case-by-case not across the board. The same is true of LGBTQ+

Yet, the only thing DEI brought on top of Affirmative Action was just more discrimination in favor primarily of white women and LGBTQ+. It didn't bring anything additional for people who can validly argue that they've suffered "years of discrimination and unfairness." Statistics show that black people are at the bottom of the list of people who have been benefitted by DEI. At the top of the list: White women followed by LGBTQ+. Black people have been saps for getting on that bandwagon.

As I've said before, however, the real point is that DEI implements neo-Marxist ideology of eternal class conflict.

You are talking about years of discrimination that history books will no longer mention, museums that will be closed.
Names of black American heroes removed from walls of honor and government websites.
Native Americans losing their holiday to a profiteering explorer.

 

[RDKirk]

You are talking about years of discrimination that history books will no longer mention, museums that will be closed.
Names of black American heroes removed from walls of honor and government websites.
Native Americans losing their holiday to a profiteering explorer.

Somehow you absolutely missed the point of my post and got it 180 degrees backward.

But I'll also make a point that I make to other black people: We are the fools for expecting "them" to keep our history for us or teach our history to our children. I was always opposed to segregating black American history from the rest of American history in a separate museum. And if that was going to happen, it should have been our own museum, for us, by us, controlled by us like the National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis TN. We should have been pouring into that museum instead of something controlled by the government.

 

[rjs330]

You are talking about years of discrimination that history books will no longer mention, museums that will be closed.
Names of black American heroes removed from walls of honor and government websites.
Native Americans losing their holiday to a profiteering explorer.

What on earth are you talking about?

No black museums have been closed by the government.
Names of Black American Heros are still on walls and websites.

The history of slavery and Jim Crow have not been removed by the government.

Native Americans haven't lost a holiday. It wasnt theirs to begin with.

Good grief.

 

[Fantine]

So interesting to see what fake news promotes.
The purged government websites of black soldiers' names, including one person because his last name was 'Gay.'
South Dakota has celebrated Native American Day since at least 1996 when I lived there.

 

[RDKirk]

So interesting to see what fake news promotes.
The purged government websites of black soldiers' names, including one person because his last name was 'Gay.'
South Dakota has celebrated Native American Day since at least 1996 when I lived there.

Has Trump forced South Dakota to give up Native American Day? How?

The frenzied headline among black people right now is that the Trump Administration has begun removing artifacts from the Smithsonian Museum of African American History. As far as I can determine, there have been two items identified for return to their owner because the loan period has expired. The owner does say that he has not asked for their return...I'm suspecting an intern failed to send an email at the proper time.

I got catfished by reacting too quickly to this kind of breathless clickbait a couple of months ago and embarrassed myself on these very forums. These days, I take a moment to research and see what's actually happening...and most of the time it's nothing much.

That's not to say that I'm at all happy with the things the Trump Administration is really doing, but I'm not getting spun up over all the clickbait headlines I see every day.

 

[rjs330]

So interesting to see what fake news promotes.
The purged government websites of black soldiers' names, including one person because his last name was 'Gay.'
South Dakota has celebrated Native American Day since at least 1996 when I lived there.

What's Native American Day? I don't think that's a National Holiday.

You are all bent out of shape over nothing. Yes the direction is to remove DEI from the military. That means scrubbing it. In the process something might get mistakenly removed because those doing the removal moved to quickly. Like removing a photo of the Enola Gay. Big deal. They'll get it figured out as they go along. Its DEI that's going away. This isn't some racist thing trying to remove black people.

Good grief.

 

[Fantine]

What's Native American Day? I don't think that's a National Holiday.

You are all bent out of shape over nothing. Yes the direction is to remove DEI from the military. That means scrubbing it. In the process something might get mistakenly removed because those doing the removal moved to quickly. Like removing a photo of the Enola Gay. Big deal. They'll get it figured out as they go along. Its DEI that's going away. This isn't some racist thing trying to remove black people.

Good grief.

Cumulatively, believers in democracy and human rights are justifiably angry at 99.9% of the impulsive, impetuous, immoral changes since 1/20.
Since I'm neither catatonic nor masochistic, I agree, as I wait a few weeks for his followers to reach bottom.

 

[rjs330]

Cumulatively, believers in democracy and human rights are justifiably angry at 99.9% of the impulsive, impetuous, immoral changes since 1/20.

Well, very little is impulsive or impetuous since these things were promised throughout the campaign. That's why we voted for them. And they aren't immoral either.

You might be angry and you probably feel justified in your anger, but other believers in democracy think you are wrong.

 

[rjs330]

Since I'm neither catatonic nor masochistic, I agree, as I wait a few weeks for his followers to reach bottom.

Followers? Like on Twitter? You are going to have to wait a lot longer than a few weeks for his voters to get to whatever bottom you have in mind.

He's going to be pope you know.

 

[NxNW]

I didn't know Barack Obama was white.

Trump claimed Obama wasn't a citizen because he was black.

 

[NxNW]

And yet qualified white people have been let go from their government jobs because they checked a box.

Nobody's lost their job for being white.

 

[NxNW]

Dupe

 

[NxNW]

So discrimination is the way to end discrimination?

Reversing discrimination is not discrimination.

 

[BCP1928]

What's Native American Day? I don't think that's a National Holiday.

You are all bent out of shape over nothing. Yes the direction is to remove DEI from the military. That means scrubbing it. In the process something might get mistakenly removed because those doing the removal moved to quickly. Like removing a photo of the Enola Gay. Big deal. They'll get it figured out as they go along. Its DEI that's going away. This isn't some racist thing trying to remove black people.

Good grief.

You make DEI go away by removing black people?