FLAT or ROUND Earth?

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Where do you think this hail is going to come from ? Could it be from the firmament breaking up ?

And here's another.
How is every eye going to see him when the sky/firmament scrolls back ?

There is no firmament.

 

[JSRG]

Therefore every word of Genesis 1 is true.

Every word in Genesis being true might be an argument against an old Earth and evolution, but not against a round Earth.

Answers in Genesis, an organization basically devoted to arguing for the literalness of Genesis and thus one that can hardly be described as biased against literalness of Genesis, rejects the idea that a flat Earth is taught in Genesis or the rest of the Bible:

Does the Bible Teach that the Earth is Flat?

In this article, I will examine many of the biblical passages that supposedly teach that the earth is flat, and I will show that in fact they do not.

answersingenesis.org

 

[Jipsah]

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I will restate my post as not all scientist, just scientist who have made purposely false claims about God's creation that do not line up with God's actual Biblical creation.

The scientisis have taken the simple expedient or looking at God's Creation and seeing what He actually made, and not accepting the 5 or 10 paragraph poetic description from Genesis to be empirical fact

You want Genesis to be a science textbook. It ain't.

There are those who know they are making false claims.

How would you know? You've never even looked.

Then there are those who just simply believe these false claims and defend these false claims, because they believe them to be true.

Some of us have actually looked up an seen what God actually did. You say He can't have done it thaty way, but He did. Maybe you can square Him away on that point when you get to Heaven.

 

[Jipsah]

There is no firmament.

Whatever a firmament is.

 

[trophy33]

Answers in Genesis, an organization basically devoted to arguing for the literalness of Genesis and thus one that can hardly be described as biased against literalness of Genesis, rejects the idea that a flat Earth is taught in Genesis or the rest of the Bible:

These YEC organizations cherry pick what they like and ignore what they do not like. If they really took Genesis literally, then they would also take for example the Tower of Babel being able to reach heaven, literally. Or the cosmic waters preexisting creation. Etc.

 

[Jipsah]

So God created and put man in charge to tell how and what God created.​

Nah, everything I needed to know to become an Electrical Engineer came straight from the Bible, not them lyin' scientists. Nosirree, nothing thunk up by diabolical frauds like Watt, Volta, Ohm, or Ampere for me; I work straight from the Bible. I may have burned my house down twice and blown up several small (and not so small) appliances, but I remained dedicated to Sola SCriptura.

I wonder why God included an account of creation in The Bible if that is the case.​

To say "God created everything". If you're looking for technical data in Genesis, you'll study in vain.

 

[Jipsah]

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How will science address a future event when it happens. The earth being bombarded by hail with a weigh of 100lbs.

It's probably to do in those 200,000,000 Chinese cavalry (or dragoons*, the scripture is vague on that point) riding on lion-headed, snake-tailed, fire breathing mounts before they get to Megiddo.

What is you guesstimation of science's response to this event

To study and figure out how that happened. That's what Science does.

*"Dragoon", noun, means "a class of mounted infantry, who use horses for mobility, but dismount to fight on foot".

 

[Jipsah]

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What about during the millennium reign of Jesus the sun will be 7 times brighter and the moon will shine as the sun.

Standard issue apocalyptic writing.

It is said this is because it will heal the wounds of the inflected.

Because magic.

Also noted that people again will live way past 100 years of age during this time.

It's headed that way now, because science.

 

[Jipsah]

Where do you think this hail is going to come from ? Could it be from the firmament breaking up ?

Whatever a firmament is?

And here's another.

How is every eye going to see him when the sky/firmament scrolls back ?

Standard issue apocalyptic writing.

 

[Apple Sky]

There is no firmament.

King James Bible
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

King James Bible
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

There is no firmament.

 

[Michie]

Another word for firmament is atmosphere. There is no physical firmament you can go and knock on like a door. The atmosphere that separates us from space.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Another word for firmament is atmosphere. There is no physical firmament you can go and knock on like a door. The atmosphere that separates us from space.

I was struggling for a way to explain it that didn't sound... well, dumb.

 

[Michie]

The concept of the firmament, a solid dome separating the Earth from the heavens, has persisted for centuries across various cultures and religions. However, modern scientific advancements have decisively disproven this myth.

Atmospheric Data:

• Atmospheric Composition: The Earth’s atmosphere thins gradually as we move away from the planet. This gradual thinning wouldn’t be possible if a solid firmament separated the atmosphere from the vacuum of space.
• Auroras: Auroras, caused by charged particles entering the Earth’s atmosphere, wouldn’t occur if a firmament blocked these particles.
• Meteors and Comets: The entry of meteors and comets into the Earth’s atmosphere demonstrates the absence of any solid barrier between Earth and space.

Continued below.

The Firmament: Myth vs. Reality | Data & Evidence

Delve into "The Firmament" myth vs. reality. We analyze claims with data & evidence to separate fact from fiction regarding this ancient concept

www.spacelaunchschedule.com

 

[d taylor]

So why even ask then?

Seriously, at this point, all you're doing is showing a very un-Christian attitude of contempt towards scientists only because of your own personal interpretation of Scripture.

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The Bible is a book about past events, but also a book that makes statements about future events. Nothing yet has came true, except the reestablishment of Israel. But most believers believe these events are approaching.

So The Bible is no interest to scientist, but as a believer i am curious as to how science will approach this. I am guessing the events like hail will fall under global warming, but i am not sure as this time will be unlike any other time.

 

[d taylor]

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I personally doubt when events happen as stated in The Bible. Science will never make an official statement that these events are of The God of creation.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So I see we've gone WAY past flat earth BS and just gone right into general apologetics and bad theology.

 

[Hans Blaster]

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I personally doubt when events happen as stated in The Bible. Science will never make an official statement that these events are of The God of creation.

Science doesn't make "official statements".

 

[NxNW]

No need to, The Bible and God's given creation account, is all i need.​

Yes, ignore what your own eyes see from a plane!

 

[Apple Sky]

Meteors and Comets: The entry of meteors and comets into the Earth’s atmosphere demonstrates the absence of any solid barrier between Earth and space.

Lol'z God doesn't chuck stones at the earth. From time to time we find bits of the firmament called sky stones. They consist of 77% Oxygen with trace amounts of Silicon, Carbon,

King James Bible
Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.