Why People Believe The Earth is Flat

[Strong in Him]

See post above it explains it all circle & all.

Nope.
It can't explain how the fact of the earth being a sphere affects/changes my Christian faith.
Because it doesn't.

I am a globe earth Christian who reads the Bible, believes Genesis 1 and has faith in Jesus. Nothing can change that - certainly not a few stupid YouTube videos.

 

[Strong in Him]

You might like to tell this to Rob Skiba;

You might like to hold a séance first.

 

[prodromos]

You might like to tell this to Rob Skiba;

Rob Skiba is dead, yet you continue to drag his name through the mud by reminding people of the nonsense he used to post. Shame on you.

 

[Apple Sky]

Rob Skiba is dead, yet you continue to drag his name through the mud by reminding people of the nonsense he used to post. Shame on you.

Let Rob not have died in vain.

 

[Strong in Him]

Let Rob not have died in vain.

He did.
He might have lived if he had had the Covid vaccine that he mocked.

Even with this, I trust that he is with the Lord, knows what shape the earth truly is - and doesn't care.

 

[Apple Sky]

You might like to hold a séance first.

I was forgetting that he died there for mo & isn't seances against God's law ? Shame on you.

 

[Strong in Him]

I was forgetting that he died there for mo & isn't seances against God's law ? Shame on you.

I was making the point that you cannot tell that to Rob Skiba - unless you know how to contact the dead. This is indeed forbidden and no way was that a serious suggestion.

Shame on you for thinking the worst of me, failing to recognise that I was not serious and blaming me anyway.

 

[Apple Sky]

Even with this, I trust that he is with the Lord, knows what shape the earth truly is - and doesn't care.

He is & his truth's have been confirmed to him.

 

[Apple Sky]

Shame on you for thinking the worst of me, failing to recognise that I was not serious and blaming me anyway.

It's hard to tell on here whether a person is serious or not, there's been many a time when I have posted in jest & you have taken me serious.

 

[prodromos]

He is & his truth's have been confirmed to him.

And his falsehoods.

 

[Apple Sky]

And his falsehoods.

And there's not many of those.

 

[Strong in Him]

It's hard to tell on here whether a person is serious or not, there's been many a time when I have posted in jest & you have taken me serious.

Sorry, but the fact is that your posts are sometimes ridiculous, and it's hard to tell whether you are joking, or laughing at our posts.

 

[tharkun73]

You might like to tell this to Rob Skiba;

Nonsense, the premise is completely false. Skiba understands nothing about the ANE context. The Tower of Babel was a ziggurat and was about workshipping the 'gods' and bringing them down to earth by their own will.

 

[Apple Sky]

Sorry, but the fact is that your posts are sometimes ridiculous, and it's hard to tell whether you are joking, or laughing at our posts.

I never laugh at anyone's posts unless there's laughing emoji.

 

[didactics]

If you are not willing to create sensible replies, I am not willing to answer such mess either. Keep your posts without logical fallacies, straight on point and short.

Your claim is that you are not in the minority to hold to the mythological interpretation. That is fine. But, I believe many of the church leaders held that Adam and Eve really existed and came into being as recounted in the pages of scripture. Also, I have showed you how it was mainstream for church leaders to say that scripture is the word of God for at least 500 years. What they meant by that may have been somewhat ambiguous, meaning they were not saying if it had to be accurate about science. However, it was not a subject of debate as the theory of evolution was not a thing at that point in time. But, they certainly had no problem claiming the Bible as the word of God. You are somehow trying to tell me that to claim this is to be guilty of idolatry. There are many who share your belief about creation week for the most part, but would have no problem saying that the Bible is God’s word. And if anything, that makes you in the minority on this one.

It proves that the Bible is not some kind of an idol in which every word is from God

Athanasius, in the fourth-century recorded that "The sacred and divinely inspired Scriptures are sufficient for the exposition of the truth." He also spoke of "the plain authority of the Scriptures" and "the divine Scriptures".

but that it had human authors who used their vocabulary, their limited knowledge, their cultural views etc.

And yet at the same time, they recorded accurately all that God wanted them to say and exactly how he wanted them to say it, in their own character, style and language. In that sense, it would not be wrong to say that "every word is from God". You make it sound as if to say that, would mean that one must hold to a dictation view of inspiration or mechanical inspiration. This is just simply false.

 

[Strong in Him]

I never laugh at anyone's posts unless there's laughing emoji.

You laugh at the idea that the earth rotates.

 

[Apple Sky]

You laugh at the idea that the earth rotates.

Yes b/c it doesn't.

He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Psalms 104:5

It doesn't rotate, float or travel through space, earth is at the center of the all.

 

[trophy33]

Your claim is that you are not in the minority to hold to the mythological interpretation. That is fine. But, I believe many of the church leaders held that Adam and Eve really existed and came into being as recounted in the pages of scripture. Also, I have showed you how it was mainstream for church leaders to say that scripture is the word of God for at least 500 years. What they meant by that may have been somewhat ambiguous, meaning they were not saying if it had to be accurate about science. However, it was not a subject of debate as the theory of evolution was not a thing at that point in time. But, they certainly had no problem claiming the Bible as the word of God. You are somehow trying to tell me that to claim this is to be guilty of idolatry. There are many who share your belief about creation week for the most part, but would have no problem saying that the Bible is God’s word. And if anything, that makes you in the minority on this one.


Athanasius, in the fourth-century recorded that "The sacred and divinely inspired Scriptures are sufficient for the exposition of the truth." He also spoke of "the plain authority of the Scriptures" and "the divine Scriptures".

And yet at the same time, they recorded accurately all that God wanted them to say and exactly how he wanted them to say it, in their own character, style and language. In that sense, it would not be wrong to say that "every word is from God". You make it sound as if to say that, would mean that one must hold to a dictation view of inspiration or mechanical inspiration. This is just simply false.

It was also common for church leaders to accept geocentrism, young Earth or to persecute people. Sorry, this is not a valid reasoning.

We should just look at facts, open minded and with critical thinking. We do not need anything else, really. I do not stick to dogmatism that goes against evidence. Truth makes us free, not tradition or habits or dogmas. The liberty of opinions, of change, of speech and theological/dogmatic minimalism is the best way.

We are not here for Athanasius or for anybody else. They lived in their times with their piece of knowledge and with their needs. We live in our times with our knowledge and needs.

 

[Apple Sky]

How the sun, moon & the salty oceans really work. Notice where the electromagnetism is coming from.

Psalms 48:1-14
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised In the city of our God, In His holy mountain. Beautiful in elevation, The joy of the whole earth, Is Mount Zion on the sides of the north, The city of the great King. God is in her palaces; He is known as her refuge.

 

[Strong in Him]

Yes b/c it doesn't.

He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. Psalms 104:5

i) the Bible is not a science textbook.
ii) that verse does not say "I, the Lord, have set the earth on its foundations ......"
iii) Even if the Psalmists had been deliberately making a scientific statement, he could only have written about the world as he saw it. Otherwise he would have said that the Lord had told him to say that the earth did not move and never would, no matter what scientists discovered in the future.
iv) The Psalmist is writing poetry. The Lord doesn't literally wrap himself in light; he IS light. Flames of fire don't literally serve God; they destroy things. Anyone can create a flame by striking a match.

One Bible verse - which you have taken out of context and misunderstood - has led you to slander all scientists as liars. Shame on you.
Like I said, if the Bible taught that the earth doesn't move, and scientists had proved it, they would have to concede that the Bible is true. That doesn't happen. Some scientists who know that the earth is a sphere and revolves around the sun, are Christians.
I am a Christian, I believe that and you have not been able to prove, or show, why I am deceived and what difference it makes to my faith.