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Kash Patel, Trump Pick for FBI Director, Confirmed by Senate

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Apparently, some have forgotten the many times the FBI under the Joe Biden Administration targeted conservatives with the weaponization of lawfare.

"lawfare" is just a cute term meant to show contempt for the rule of law. That's all I get from that statement.
 
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If only. If that had been the case, they wouldn't have slow-walked Trump's prosecutions.

Power bent the knee towards justice, people did their due diligence to give consideration to Mr. Trump. And somehow that's weaponizing the justice system, just because he was investigated in the fist place. Even though it was pretty obvious to most of the world that he tried to orchestrate a coup, the FBI dared to touch the "anointed one".

We really do live in completely dilferent worlds.
 
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Newly-installed FBI Director Kash Patel, whose proclaimed plans to overhaul the nation's premier law enforcement agency have rattled many within the bureau, has proposed enhancing the FBI's ranks with help from the Ultimate Fighting Championship, the martial-arts entertainment giant whose wealthy CEO, Dana White, helped boost President Donald Trump's reelection, according to sources who were told of Patel's proposal.

On a teleconference Wednesday with the heads of the FBI's 55 field offices, Patel suggested that he wants the FBI to establish a formal relationship with the UFC, which could develop programs for agents to improve their physical fitness, said sources who had been briefed on Wednesday's call.

During Wednesday's call, Patel expressed his own concerns about that [DOGE what you did this week] email and ... confusing follow-up messages
 
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Newly-installed FBI Director Kash Patel, whose proclaimed plans to overhaul the nation's premier law enforcement agency have rattled many within the bureau, has proposed enhancing the FBI's ranks with help from the Ultimate Fighting Championship, the martial-arts entertainment giant whose wealthy CEO, Dana White, helped boost President Donald Trump's reelection, according to sources who were told of Patel's proposal.

On a teleconference Wednesday with the heads of the FBI's 55 field offices, Patel suggested that he wants the FBI to establish a formal relationship with the UFC, which could develop programs for agents to improve their physical fitness, said sources who had been briefed on Wednesday's call.

During Wednesday's call, Patel expressed his own concerns about that [DOGE what you did this week] email and ... confusing follow-up messages

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"lawfare" is just a cute term meant to show contempt for the rule of law. That's all I get from that statement.
Lawfare is the use of legal systems to achieve political or military goals, rather than using military force. It involves using the law to damage an opponent, or to prevent people from using their legal rights.
How is lawfare used?
To damage an opponent: By wasting time and money, or by delegitimizing an opponent's legal system
To deter legal rights: By labeling and discouraging people from using legal systems.
 
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On a teleconference Wednesday with the heads of the FBI's 55 field offices, Patel suggested that he wants the FBI to establish a formal relationship with the UFC, which could develop programs for agents to improve their physical fitness, said sources who had been briefed on Wednesday's call.
That sounds like a good idea which ought to be, at the very least, considered as to whether or not it actually would work.
 
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That sounds like a good idea which ought to be, at the very least, considered as to whether or not it actually would work.
Is this to be a no-bid contract to line the pockets of a Trump supporter's business?
 
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Is this to be a no-bid contract to line the pockets of a Trump supporter's business?
If the answer is yes, then this administration would be following precedent from previous presidential administrations.
 
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Newly-installed FBI Director Kash Patel, whose proclaimed plans to overhaul the nation's premier law enforcement agency have rattled many within the bureau, has proposed enhancing the FBI's ranks with help from the Ultimate Fighting Championship, the martial-arts entertainment giant whose wealthy CEO, Dana White, helped boost President Donald Trump's reelection, according to sources who were told of Patel's proposal.

On a teleconference Wednesday with the heads of the FBI's 55 field offices, Patel suggested that he wants the FBI to establish a formal relationship with the UFC, which could develop programs for agents to improve their physical fitness, said sources who had been briefed on Wednesday's call.

During Wednesday's call, Patel expressed his own concerns about that [DOGE what you did this week] email and ... confusing follow-up messages
What do they want special agents with 'roid rage? .. (looks over at new FBI #2) .. oh, never mind.
 
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FBI Director Kash Patel Announces Arrest of Military Personnel for Bribery, Theft, and Attempting to Sell Defense Data and Intelligence to China


The FBI arrested two active-duty U.S. Army soldiers and one veteran on Thursday for alleged bribery and theft of government property as part of a plot to sell classified national defense information to China.​
“While bribery and corruption have thrived under China’s Communist Party, this behavior cannot be tolerated with our service members who are entrusted with sensitive military information, including national defense information,” said FBI Director Kash Patel.​
“The FBI and our partners will continue to work to uncover attempts by those in China to steal sensitive U.S. military information and hold all accountable who play a role in betraying our national defense,” he added.​
 
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His schedule is opening up.

Exclusive-Kash Patel removed as acting ATF director, replaced by Army Secretary, sources say


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - FBI Director Kash Patel was removed as the Acting Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and replaced by U.S. Army Secretary Daniel Driscoll, seven people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Driscoll will continue to serve as Army Secretary while he also oversees the ATF
 
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His schedule is opening up.

Exclusive-Kash Patel removed as acting ATF director, replaced by Army Secretary, sources say


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - FBI Director Kash Patel was removed as the Acting Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and replaced by U.S. Army Secretary Daniel Driscoll, seven people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

Driscoll will continue to serve as Army Secretary while he also oversees the ATF
That's odd. At least the FBI and ATF are in the same Department (Justice). Last I looked the Department of the Army was not in the DOJ, but in the Department of Defense.
 
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Kash Patel's new way of leading the FBI: Fewer morning intel briefings, more pro sports events

For decades, the head of the FBI has attended a daily 8:30 a.m. “director’s brief,” where he is presented the most important intelligence and law enforcement information gleaned from thousands of agents and analysts across the country, current and former FBI officials say.

And on Wednesday afternoons, the FBI director or his deputy held a secure video teleconference with the leaders of field offices across the country to share information about bureau priorities.

Unlike his recent predecessors, Patel is receiving the “director’s brief” two days a week, according to two current officials with direct knowledge and two former FBI and Justice Department officials familiar with the matter. Patel has also stopped holding the weekly Wednesday-afternoon video teleconference with FBI leaders, one current and one former FBI official said.

Since taking office on Feb. 20, Patel appears to have made three flights on FBI planes to Nashville, Tennessee, where his girlfriend, a country singer, lives; two flights to Las Vegas, where he has a home; and one flight to New York, where he attended a professional hockey game. FBI policy in recent years has mandated that directors fly on government aircraft for security reasons.
 
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Congress redefined what a day is, so 2 days a week is still daily. Nothing to see here. Business as usual!
It was the House, not all of Congress, and only refers to "legislative days" on a particular measure/rule. Sorry, K$H, not off the hook.
 
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FBI moving 1,500 personnel from D.C., closing storied headquarters building: Patel


WASHINGTON − FBI Director Kash Patel announced in a Fox News broadcast Friday that he’s redeploying 1,500 FBI agents, analysts and other personnel from Washington to posts throughout the country, and shutting down the bureau’s storied headquarters because it is “unsafe for our workforce.”

Patel has talked frequently about moving FBI personnel out of the nation’s capital and even shutting down the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building and making it into some form of a “deep state” museum.
 
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It was the House, not all of Congress, and only refers to "legislative days" on a particular measure/rule. Sorry, K$H, not off the hook.
So long as they keep trumps favor they are off the hook, nation of laws is old think.
 
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I’m fine with moving a bunch of the FBI (and other agencies for that matter) out of DC, though this bit caught my eye:

But we want the American men and women to know if you're going to come work at the premier law enforcement agency in the world, we're going to give you a building that's commensurate with that, and that's not this place.”

So it would seem that folks in the Trump administration do have some sense of what it means to be a good employer vs a bad one.
 
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I guess the swamp has been drained. Nothing for them to do in DC. No corruption to be found.

The FBI is disbanding one of its public corruption squads in its Washington office, AP sources say

The action comes as the Trump administration has overhauled its approach to enforcement of public corruption, including by moving to dramatically slash the size of a prestigious section of Justice Department prosecutors responsible for pursuing cases of fraud and corruption against elected officials.
 
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