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Why we are not supposed to keep the Sabbath

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Then why does 99% of Christianity not have any convictions whatsoever about keeping the Sabbath? Why is it that we have convictions from the Holy Spirit about every other commandment except the sabbath? And if nothing has changed about keeping the letter of the law what is Paul saying in 2 Corinthians 3?
You keep looking at what man does as our example, when Jesus is who we are to follow. 1 John 2:5-6 1 Peter 2:21-22 we are made in His image Gen 1:26 not the image of man.

Jesus never said the majority would take the narrow path.

Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

If 99% of Christians tell us to jump off a cliff, should we follow the crowd? The crowd never got it right in scripture, think Noah's ark, nor are they now. Paul ever warns us of what would happen after his death Acts 20:29

In Cor 2:3 Paul is contrasting the letter with the spirit of the law- the spirit of the law is greater not lessor as Jesus explained Mat 5:19-30 its not that Paul is teaching to literally murder, literally covet, literally worship other gods, but if we are led by the Spirit and our heart is changed, so would our thoughts that lead us to breaking these commandments. The letter kills because the wages of sin is death and that still applies Heb 10:26-30 Mat 7:21-23, but by the blood of Jesus and through the power of God's Spirit with our cooperation and love, we can obey Him John 14:15-18 and live in peace and harmony with God's will Psa 40:8 Isa 48:18 which reconciles us by faith Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
 
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If the instructions in the law of Moses are a copy of the instructions which are in heaven, then that would be true

Myself, I don't think the same instructions apply in heaven, because then they would be sacrificing animals in heaven

Moses was talking about the construction of the temple being a shadow of something in heaven. I assume that it has to do with ratios of the Tent of Meeting or the related symbolism. The seventh day in Genesis 2:2 was made holy because God rested on that day, or eon, or whatever. I just think that the Sabbath might be a shadow or symbol of that rest. I don’t think God was tired or anything, but He stopped the work of creation for some time. Keepers of the Sabbath are also told not to work on that day. Obviously, there is no one to one correlation between heaven and earth, but there must be a few correlations between the real things in heaven and their shadow here on earth as indicated by Hebrews 8:5. The connection between the Sabbath and the seventh day of creation has been around for a long time, and what that connection might be is relevant to how universal the commandment of the Sabbath is. It is just a hypothesis.
 
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I also wanted to point out that the animal sacrifices were a shadow of the sacrifice of Christ. It might also be interesting that the Kiddush says that the Sabbath is “a token of Your (God’s) dominion over creation,” which reinforces that the connection between creation and Sabbath has been around for a while.
 
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You keep looking at what man does as our example, when Jesus is who we are to follow. 1 John 2:5-6 1 Peter 2:21-22 we are made in His image Gen 1:26 not the image of man.

Jesus never said the majority would take the narrow path.

Mat 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

If 99% of Christians tell us to jump off a cliff, should we follow the crowd? The crowd never got it right in scripture nor are they now.

In Cor 2:3 Paul is contrasting the letter with the spirit of the law- the spirit of the law is greater not lessor as Jesus explained Mat 5:19-30 its not that Paul is teaching to literally murder, literally covet, literally worship other gods, but if we are led by the Spirit and our heart is changed, so would our thoughts that lead us to breaking these commandments. The letter kills because the wages of sin is death and that still applies Heb 10:26-30 Mat 7:21-23, but by the blood of Jesus and through the power of God's Spirit with our cooperation and love, we can obey Him John 14:15-18 and live in peace and harmony with God's will Psa 40:8 Isa 48:18 which reconciles us by faith Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
So then what you’re saying is that 99% of Christianity is on the wide path that leads to destruction. But in Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus was contrasting believers to unbelievers. Jesus is the narrow gate not the Sabbath. Christians are the few that find it, unbelievers are the many that don’t. If you think that the 10 commandments are the narrow gate then you don’t understand the gospel at all.
 
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So then what you’re saying is that 99% of Christianity is on the wide path that leads to destruction. But in Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus was contrasting believers to unbelievers. Jesus is the narrow gate not the Sabbath. Christians are the few that find it, unbelievers are the many that don’t. If you think that the 10 commandments are the narrow gate then you don’t understand the gospel at all.
Jesus is the narrow gate and if we believe Jesus it goes to say we would be followers of Christ and obey His teachings. Its not about just "believing" its about submitting to God's will, many believers will say Lord Lord at His Second Coming only for Jesus to say He does not know you, He knows us if we keep His commandments 1 John 2:3 those who claim to know Him but do not keep His commandments are a liar and there no truth in them 1 John 2:4 because all of God's commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 even the one that is holy and blessed by God that God had the foresight to ask us to Remember, because He knew man would try to forget.

Anyway, looks like we still don't agree, I don't see the point in going over the same disagreements, but I wish you well.
 
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And if nothing has changed about keeping the letter of the law what is Paul saying in 2 Corinthians 3?
I will answer this. Paul is contrasting the law on tables of stone verses the law written on tablets of the heart that is powered by the Holy Spirit.

Changing God's law is man's will not God's will. Man is the one who demands a change in the law in the New Covenant, but its not what the scriptures teach.

The Ten Commandments are the words of the old Covenant

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

God said He would not alter His words

Psa 89:34 My covenant I will not break,
Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

Its why the New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6 not established on new laws as most erroneously teach. It still has God's law now written in the heart Heb 8:10 established on better promises, not altering the words of the covenant because God cannot lie. Heb 6:18

God would have never made a new covenant had the people not broke the old one, so its not like He changed His mind about His laws, not at all.

Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Because God loves us so much instead not being in a covenant relationship with His people He established a new covenant based on better promises.

The old covenant was based on the people doing

Exo 19:8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

Who is the one doing in the New Covenant

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

By our love and cooperation with God, He is the one doing now

John 14: 15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

Sadly most think this is "not good enough" but its huge, having God help us obey Him through the promise of the Holy Spirit instead of trying to on our own efforts. That is a much better promise and why the New Covenant is established on better promises, but if we are not subject to God's law we are an enmity to God Rom 8:7-8. Its one thing to slip and fall and ask for forgiveness and to help change our direction, but its another not to even recognize one of God's commandments that He personally wrote and personally spoke that are part of the words of the covenant- the one He said Remember.
 
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Jesus is the narrow gate and if we believe Jesus it goes to say we would be followers of Christ and obey His teachings. Its not about just "believing" its about submitting to God's will, many believers will say Lord Lord at His Second Coming only for Jesus to say He does not know you, He knows us if we keep His commandments 1 John 2:3 those who claim to know Him but do not keep His commandments are a liar and there no truth in them 1 John 2:4 because all of God's commandments are Truth Psa 119:151 even the one that is holy and blessed by God that God had the foresight to ask us to Remember, because He knew man would try to forget.

Anyway, looks like we still don't agree, I don't see the point in going over the same disagreements, but I wish you well.
Ok but you know my position on the necessity of repentance. That’s something we both agree on and following Jesus’ commandments is something I believe that we are required to do. But Jesus never commanded anyone to keep the sabbath nor did the apostles.
 
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I will answer this. Paul is contrasting the law on tables of stone verses the law written on tablets of the heart that is powered by the Holy Spirit.

Changing God's law is man's will not God's will. Man is the one who demands a change in the law in the New Covenant, but its not what the scriptures teach.

The Ten Commandments are the words of the old Covenant

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

God said He would not alter His words

Psa 89:34 My covenant I will not break,
Nor alter the word that has gone out of My lips.

Its why the New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6 not established on new laws as most erroneously teach. It still has God's law now written in the heart Heb 8:10 established on better promises, not altering the words of the covenant because God cannot lie. Heb 6:18

God would have never made a new covenant had the people not broke the old one, so its not like He changed His mind about His laws, not at all.

Hebrews 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second. 8 Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. 10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Because God loves us so much instead not being in a covenant relationship with His people He established a new covenant based on better promises.

The old covenant was based on the people doing

Exo 19:8 Then all the people answered together and said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do.” So Moses brought back the words of the people to the Lord.

Who is the one doing in the New Covenant

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

By our love and cooperation with God, He is the one doing now

John 14: 15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you orphans; I will come to you.

Sadly most think this is "not good enough" but its huge, having God help us obey Him through the promise of the Holy Spirit instead of trying to on our own efforts. That is a much better promise and why the New Covenant is established on better promises, but if we are not subject to God's law we are an enmity to God Rom 8:7-8. Its one thing to slip and fall and ask for forgiveness and to help change our direction, but its another not to even recognize one of God's commandments that He personally wrote and personally spoke that are part of the words of the covenant- the one He said Remember.
So God’s commandment pertaining to circumcision never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to the New Moon feasts never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to burnt offerings and sacrifices never changed? God’s commandments pertaining to the dietary laws never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to the Passover observance never changed? God’s commandments to put people to death for breaking His commandments never changed? None of these have changed?

You say that God’s commandments never change then all of these must still be in effect just as they originally were?
 
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Brother, do you believe that God told all people that he rested on the seventh day?
Brother, yes! Because we all descend from Adam and Eve, who would have known of God's rest on the seventh day, we all have in our background the counting of days by the week, establishing the International Date Line (IDL).
the time when the Israelites were gathered around Mount Sinai. Did all people on Earth hear the instructions that God was giving at that time?
Seeing Him is like hearing Him. His intention through reading the word of God is that we all know what He said, as expressed in the following passage. I don't think all the peoples of the earth heard Him speak at Mount Sinai at that time, just like all of us have not seen Jesus walk the Earth during the time of the disciples.

Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” “My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.” (John 20:27-29 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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So God’s commandment pertaining to circumcision never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to the New Moon feasts never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to burnt offerings and sacrifices never changed? God’s commandments pertaining to the dietary laws never changed? God’s commandment pertaining to the Passover observance never changed? God’s commandments to put people to death for breaking His commandments never changed? None of these have changed?

You say that God’s commandments never change then all of these must still be in effect just as they originally were?
Shall we focus on what the scripture says

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

All the other laws called the law of Moses was placed outside the ark of the covenant

Exo 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

None of the laws you mentioned were in the Ten Commandments and God did separate them from all other laws and after speaking the Ten Commandments He added no more Deut 5:22 they are a standalone unit. God's work Exo 32:16, not mans. His perfect law converting the soul.

Of course some of the law of Moses changed as the scriptures shows such as Heb 9:10-11 Heb 10:1-22 Eph 2:15 etc

What didn't change is the words of the covenant, Psa 89:34, the Ten Commandments Exo 34:28 God cannot lie.


God called His commandments, the Ten 'My commandments" not the law of Moses

Did this change in New Covenant?

Not according to Jesus who I believe is trustworthy

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’;

Only found in the Ten Commandments Exo 20:12

The law of Moses is still the law of Moses in the New Covenant

Acts 15:5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”

Paul contrasted these laws and came to this conclusion

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
 
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Ok but you know my position on the necessity of repentance. That’s something we both agree on and following Jesus’ commandments is something I believe that we are required to do. But Jesus never commanded anyone to keep the sabbath nor did the apostles.
Does God have to repeat Himself to obey Him? Is the God of the Old Testament a different God of the New Testament when He says He changes not?

The Sabbath was still a commandment in the NT and one they were already keeping

Luke 23:56 Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Kept by God's people Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
The Sabbath rest is according to the commandment Luke 23:56 and God said in the commandment the Sabbath is the seventh day Exo 20:10.

The apostles observe every Sabbath because Jesus told them to observe everything He commanded

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go [c]therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” [d]Amen.

The apostles observed every Sabbath Acts 15:21 Acts 18:4 just as Jesus did Luke 4:16 because we are made in the image of God to be His followers, not to do our own thing. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for human beings Mark 2:27 and everyone Isa 56:6

Where was the Sabbath commandment ever abrogated? It's wasn't, at least not by God. God's people keep God's commandments Rev 14:12 His version, not what was changed by man Dan 7:25

Sorry you need a repeat of thou shalt Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. We obey Him through love and faith, not just because its a commandment. Scripture clearly shows the Sabbath is part of His law written in the heart, as the words of the covenant did not change. Psa 89:34 The Sabbath was named by God Exo 20:10 and the Sabbath is all over the scriptures from the beginning Gen 2:1-3 to the end Isa 66:23. It's part of God's perfect law converting the soul Psa 19:7 because no man can sanctify themselves Isa 66:17, we need God Eze 20:12
 
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Can we focus on what the scripture says

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

All the other laws called the law of Moses was placed outside the ark of the covenant

Exo 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

None of these laws were in the Ten Commandments and God did separate them from all other laws and after speaking the Ten Commandments He added no more Deut 5:22 they are a standalone unit. God's work Exo 32:16, not mans

Of course some of the law of Moses changed as the scriptures shows such as Heb 9:10-11 Heb 10:1-22 Eph 2:15 etc

What didn't change is the words of the covenant, Psa 89:34, the Ten Commandments Exo 34:28 because God cannot lie.


God called His commandments, the Ten 'My commandments" not the law of Moses

Did this change in New Covenant?

Not according to Jesus who I believe is trustworthy

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’;

Only found in the Ten Commandments Exo 20:12

The law of Moses is still the law of Moses in the New Covenant

Acts 15:5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”

Paul contrasted these laws and came to this conclusion

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
I’ve been quoting scripture the entire discussion. The verses you quoted didn’t say anything about keeping His 10 commandments they said we must keep His commandments. Now you’re moving the goal post.

The 10 commandments were NOT the only commandments of God ‘s covenant, there were other commandments in the Mosaic law that were the commandments of God’s covenant as well and those commandments were written in the book of the covenant mentioned in Exodus 24

“Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24‬:‭7‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The book of the covenant contained the commandment of the Passover.

“Then the king commanded all the people saying, “Celebrate the Passover to the Lord your God as it is written in this book of the covenant.””
‭‭2 Kings‬ ‭23‬:‭21‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

In Leviticus 24:1-8 the commandment to keep a lamp lit and to bake 12 cakes on every sabbath was also an everlasting covenant with the Israelites.

So you’re cherry picking Exodus 34:28 saying that the 10 commandments are the words of the covenant with God when the Passover and the lamp and 12 cakes were also part of that covenant and had nothing to do with the 10 commandments.

What you’re trying to do is separate the 10 commandments from the Mosaic law but by saying that the 10 commandments are the words of the covenant but as I’ve shown in the passages above they aren’t the only words of the covenant and they certainly weren’t the only commandments of God.

So you don’t define the term “God’s commandments” as the commandments given in the OT or the commandments given in the NT, for some unknown reason you only define them as the 10 commandments. Since your claim about the 10 commandments being the words of the covenant doesn’t hold water because they’re not the only commandments that were the words of the covenant I’ll have to ask my question again, why do you say that God’s commandments never change when the scriptures specifically state that some of God’s commandments have been abolished? Circumcision was a commandment Genesis 21:4. The New Moon feasts were a commandment Numbers 28:1.

Do you deny that these were commandments of God?

Do you deny that these have been abolished?
 
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I’ve been quoting scripture the entire discussion. The verses you quoted didn’t say anything about keeping His 10 commandments they said we must keep His commandments. Now you’re moving the goal post.

The 10 commandments were NOT the only commandments of God ‘s covenant, there were other commandments in the Mosaic law that were the commandments of God’s covenant as well and those commandments were written in the book of the covenant mentioned in Exodus 24

So you’re cherry picking Exodus 34:28 saying that the 10 commandments are the words of the covenant with God when the Passover and the lamp and 12 cakes were also part of that covenant and had nothing to do with the 10 commandments.
Believing scripture as it reads verbatim Is not cherry picking.

What number do you see?

Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.

God said He added no more to the Ten Commandments- Its God’s perfect law converting the soul Psa 19:7 written personally by our perfect Creator and Redeemer.

Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.

Moses didn’t take credit for God’s work, a sad world we live in and how far we have gone away.

Exo 32:16 16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.


“Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24‬:‭7‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The book of the covenant contained the commandment of the Passover.

“Then the king commanded all the people saying, “Celebrate the Passover to the Lord your God as it is written in this book of the covenant.””
‭‭2 Kings‬ ‭23‬:‭21‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

In Leviticus 24:1-8 the commandment to keep a lamp lit and to bake 12 cakes on every sabbath was also an everlasting covenant with the Israelites.


What you’re trying to do is separate the 10 commandments from the Mosaic law but by saying that the 10 commandments are the words of the covenant but as I’ve shown in the passages above they aren’t the only words of the covenant and they certainly weren’t the only commandments of God.

So you don’t define the term “God’s commandments” as the commandments given in the OT or the commandments given in the NT, for some unknown reason you only define them as the 10 commandments. Since your claim about the 10 commandments being the words of the covenant doesn’t hold water because they’re not the only commandments that were the words of the covenant I’ll have to ask my question again, why do you say that God’s commandments never change when the scriptures specifically state that some of God’s commandments have been abolished? Circumcision was a commandment Genesis 21:4. The New Moon feasts were a commandment Numbers 28:1.

Do you deny that these were commandments of God?

Do you deny that these have been abolished?
Not moving the goal post at all, just keeping things separated because God did. Deut 4:13 Exo 34:28 Two main laws- the ones written by God alone that defines sin 1 John 3:4 James 2:10-12 Rom 7:7 Mat 5:19-30 and placed inside the ark Exo 40:20 Exo 31:18 and all the other laws handwritten in a book by Moses that was added because of sin placed beside the ark as a witness against Deut 31:24-26. Two difference laws with different purposes. Moses is not God. Moses is the creation, God is our Creator. God called His commandments in the unit of Ten that He added no more Deut 5:22 My commandments Exo 20:6 We should know from God every time we see the commandments of God, My commandments, His commandments they include the Ten Commandments because thats how He defined them and I believe He has the right to do so.. All kings have laws- Our God is a King and a King needs laws to Judge by, God did not let man write His holy and eternal law, He wrote it Himself, it is His work, not Moses Exo 32:16 lets give Him the glory.

The Passover was not a commandment it is an ordinance written in the book after the fall of man. Not everything is a commandment Neh 9:13 God only numbered one set of laws by design and sadly all man does it try to tear them down, which I believe there will be a lot of regrets one day soon.

Exodus 12:43
And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover: No foreigner shall eat it.
Numbers 9:12
They shall leave none of it until morning, nor break one of its bones. According to all the ordinances of the Passover they shall keep it.
Numbers 9:14
‘And if a stranger dwells among you, and would keep the Lord’s Passover, he must do so according to the rite of the Passover and according to its ceremony; you shall have one ordinance, both for the stranger and the native of the land.’ ”
2 Chronicles 35:13
Also they roasted the Passover offerings with fire according to the ordinance; but the other holy offerings they boiled in pots, in caldrons, and in pans, and divided them quickly among all the lay people.
 
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Moses was talking about the construction of the temple being a shadow of something in heaven. I assume that it has to do with ratios of the Tent of Meeting or the related symbolism. The seventh day in Genesis 2:2 was made holy because God rested on that day, or eon, or whatever.
I just think that the Sabbath might be a shadow or symbol of that rest. I don’t think God was tired or anything, but He stopped the work of creation for some time.
It's an interesting hypothesis :heart:

I would agree that both the seventh day when God rested and the Sabbath commandment at Sinai could be shadows of our rest in Christ

We rest from our own work, and do God's work :heart:

Keepers of the Sabbath are also told not to work on that day. Obviously, there is no one to one correlation between heaven and earth, but there must be a few correlations between the real things in heaven and their shadow here on earth as indicated by Hebrews 8:5. The connection between the Sabbath and the seventh day of creation has been around for a long time, and what that connection might be is relevant to how universal the commandment of the Sabbath is. It is just a hypothesis.
 
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Brother, yes! Because we all descend from Adam and Eve, who would have known of God's rest on the seventh day,
...we all have in our background the counting of days by the week, establishing the International Date Line (IDL).
Do we all have in our background the knowledge that God rested on the seventh day?


Seeing Him is like hearing Him. His intention through reading the word of God is that we all know what He said, as expressed in the following passage. I don't think all the peoples of the earth heard Him speak at Mount Sinai at that time, just like all of us have not seen Jesus walk the Earth during the time of the disciples.

Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless any longer. Believe!” “My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe without seeing me.” (John 20:27-29 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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This is an interesting passage about what was actually on the stone tablets
 
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There’s always someone trying to whisper in our ear telling us something different than what God said. Sadly has been that way from the beginning.

We know what was written on stone- God’s holy and eternal law. He tells us that explicitly.


Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.


Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.
 
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There’s always someone trying to whisper in our ear telling us something different than what God said. Sadly has been that way from the beginning.

We know what was written on stone- God’s holy and eternal law. He tells us that explicitly.


Exo 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Deut 4:13 So He (God) declared to you His covenant which He (God) commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He (God) wrote them on two tablets of stone.


Deut 5:22 “These words the Lord spoke to all your assembly, in the mountain from the midst of the fire, the cloud, and the thick darkness, with a loud voice; and He added no more. And He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me.
That's interesting, because Exodus 24 says "the law and the commandments"

What does it say in your translation?
 
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That's interesting, because Exodus 24 says "the law and the commandments"

What does it say in your translation?
Law is a generic term, the commandments are called both commandments and also called law as an example Rom 7:7 Rom 7:12

We know what was written on the tablets because we are told so explicitly.
 
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Law is a generic term, the commandments are called both commandments and also called law as an example Rom 7:7 Rom 7:12

We know what was written on the tablets because we are told so explicitly.
Do you see "law and commandments" in Exodus 24 as referring to the same set of instructions?

 
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