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Politico's post-debate analysis says that Vance's beard is representative of aggression

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If all they can do is criticize his beard... he won the debate, hands down.
He did a great job selling Trump.
Waltz seemed to be continually on the defensive, and Vance controlled the conversation.
I think Vance demonstrated he has great expertise at showing diplomacy of speech and that's not something you learn in debate preparation. You demonstrate it because it's your character.
 
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Silly women. Thinking that men are more dangerous to them than women and that typical male physical markers may exacerbate that response.
You are assuming that women are intimidated by men with beards? That sounds sexist.
 
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One of the first bits of nonverbal communication to appear in the debate was on JD Vance’s face: his beard. As POLITICO Magazine has noted before, Vance is the first White House wannabe to wear facial hair in 80 years. Our appearance is fundamental to our body language, and research indicates that voters see beards as (surprise, surprise) more masculine. That can be positive to some, reading as strength and competence. But to others, especially women, it can be negative, conveying aggression and opposition to feminist ideals.
I'm sure this analysis will play well to the countless men who have beards by telling them that simply having facial hair means they are aggressive toward all womenkind. :rolleyes:
This only demonstrates how badly Waltz performed in the debate. That the left is criticizing Vance's facial hair as "intimidating."
 
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I think the bigger non-verbal communication I get from him is that he is super creepy. He gives the vibe of a garage day trader who slides up to you at a bar to talk about his sick Camaro while you smile blankly and subtly cover your drink.
Where do you get that? That is just "wierd."
 
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He is young and politically inexperienced, so he wants to appear more mature.
His behavior was very civil and respectful of the debate process--not aggressive at all.
I sensed he was trying to tone down his extremism and reach out to moderates and rehabilitate his image.
"Tone down his extremism" and "rehabilitate his image"? What on earth are you talking about?
 
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Nice going Politico. They just offended every Muslim man in the country.
Due to the culture of the day they say Jesus Christ himself probably had a beard. Guess that means he wasn't such a nice person then right? Of course that would be crazy to think that way.
 
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Jack Smith's release of evidence of Trump's crimes "as a private citizen" shows that he tried to seize the presidency by force.
And "cat lady" is a slur. Most pet owners aren't eccentric animal hoarders--and neither are childless women.
Vance lied almost as much as Trump in debate. He was just more polished about it.
There is a large segment of society that consists of toxic women who's only source of affection and validation comes from their feline friend because they despise men. This is the natural outcome of the 3rd wave feminism. +35 years old and alone, and bitter at everything male.
 
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"Tone down his extremism" and "rehabilitate his image"? What on earth are you talking about?
"Tone down his extremism" and "rehabilitate his image"? What on earth are you talking about?
Of all the candidates Trump could have chosen, he picked the most conservative. Instead of trying to reach out to Independents, he wanted to fire up his base.

This is the view of mainstream media outlets. They also feel that he regrets his strategy now that Harris is his opponent.

His approval ratings are the lowest of the four ticket holders. After the debate they improved, but are still net negative.

After the debate, Walz' approval went through the roof. He is going to do lots of solo campaigns and has been booked for one on one interviews and talk shows--where his authenticity and likeability shine. Debates are not his strength, with 52% saying Vance won.

But in likeability polls, Walz left him in the dust.
 
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There is a large segment of society that consists of toxic women who's only source of affection and validation comes from their feline friend because they despise men. This is the natural outcome of the 3rd wave feminism. +35 years old and alone, and bitter at everything male.
Obviously you share his views, but as a woman who has been married to one man for more than 2/3 of my life, I find his comment divisive and misogynistic. As a woman, I stand with my sisters in all our diversity, and feel personally attacked by his words.
 
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What if it were a goatee?
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They always look sinister to me.
 
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As a woman, I stand with my sisters in all our diversity, and feel personally attacked by his words.
This is the source of so many problems in the USA and similar countries. Being personally offended because of some group identity. Thats why you are all offended, constantly.
 
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Some other beard conspiracy theories.
1 His wife likes the beard, and he wants to make her happy. Gasp.
2 He is lazy and does not want to shave. (That is my excuse)
3 His skin is sensitive, and he breaks out in a rash if he shaves.
4 He thinks he looks handsome with a beard. Or, like me, he has a double chin, which the beard hides.
5 Growing a beard is a very natural thing; he is a natural kind of guy.
6 The beard gives him Samson-like superpowers, especially during debates.
7 Crumbs get caught in the beard which he likes to save to snack on later.
8 He is actually a woman and is shooting for a job at the circus as the bearded lady.
9 It makes him look like Paul Bunyan, and he is actively looking for a giant blue Ox named "babe."
10 He loves to watch political pundits make up wild conspiracy theories about everything and nothing.- Most likely theory.
11. He's Taliban
 
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Jack Smith's release of evidence of Trump's crimes "as a private citizen" shows that he tried to seize the presidency by force.
Nonhe didn't.
And "cat lady" is a slur. Most pet owners aren't eccentric animal hoarders--and neither are childless women.
Telling the truth is not a slur.
Vance lied almost as much as Trump in debate. He was just more polished about it.
What did Vance lie about?
What dis Walz lie about?
 
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If Trump did not peacefully hand over the Presidency, then why did he peacefully hand over the Presidency?

Shhh. Don't ask logical questions here. These people truly believe the nonsense they're told, even when reality proves them to be demonstrably wrong.
 
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This is the source of so many problems in the USA and similar countries. Being personally offended because of some group identity. Thats why you are all offended, constantly.
Blame the victims? Uh-uh.
How about fostering civility?
 
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Blame the victims? Uh-uh.
How about fostering civility?

Having a beard is in no way indicative of incivility.

Your comment provides a great example of the ludicrous claims people make when they choose to live in a perpetually offended state.
 
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