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Trump promises to deport all the Haitians to Venezuela.

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We have already paid to fix Haiti.

When that doesn't work importing Haiti into dying towns that don't have plentiful jobs or housing isn't going to help anyone.

We are a multi ethnic society here but we have a social contract. People need to stay in their own countries and start fixing them if they want a better life.
So what begins to happen is that this town [Springfield], as it falls on hard times, you begin to see houses boarded up, buildings abandoned, downtown looking in sad shape. And that decline persisted for several decades, until a few years ago, when the city leadership and the Chamber of Commerce decided to do something about it. They came up with a plan to revitalize the city.

They started pitching this city as an attractive place to do business. The location of the city, smack dab between Dayton and Columbus, is a big plus. It’s easily accessible to two interstates. It has several colleges and institutions for training. And it’s an affordable place to live and to operate as a business. And this plan actually succeeds.

A major turning point was in 2017 when a very large Japanese auto parts maker acquired land in a decaying part of the city and set up shop, creating hundreds of jobs. And it was probably one of the biggest employers that ended up setting up shop there, but it wasn’t the only one.

Companies that make boxes for Happy Meals sold at McDonald’s.

Companies that distribute clothing across the country. But there was a problem. There weren’t enough workers.

Immigrants start to arrive, in particular Haitians. Like other immigrant groups, they hear about opportunities by word of mouth. They tell each other. In this case, they were drawn by the availability of well-paying jobs. And they also heard that the cost of living was pretty low in Springfield.

So soon, more and more Haitians arrived. And they were very attractive to employers because they had authorization to legally work in the United States. And what they have is something called temporary protected status.

Springfield benefits from this influx of Haitians. They have come to work. I heard from employers like Jamie McGregor, who runs an auto parts maker, that Haitians are coming to work on time. They’re reliable. They’re drama-free. And they’ve now come to represent 10 percent of his workforce.

The immigrants are working in a variety of capacities. Some of them are opening businesses and restaurants. They’re sending their kids to schools, schools that actually had been losing students because the city had been shrinking. And they’re leasing homes and apartments.

I met a landlord, in fact, who has been buying up some of these homes that had been delinquent on property taxes and went to auction and fixing them up to rent them to Haitians. And I took a spin around town with him. And I was able to see that there are many blocks where newly refurbished homes are sprucing up the neighborhood. They have manicured gardens, and they look a lot more cheerful than blocks where homes are still boarded up.

So you’re seeing, literally, a town come back to life very quickly, almost overnight.



Refugees revitalize American cities

Lewiston, Maine had a population at its peak of about 80,000 in the ‘60s, early ‘70s. But then, like many of these towns in the Midwest, it began to lose population, in large part because so many manufacturing jobs went overseas. Companies that operated in town shuttered, and people had to look for opportunity elsewhere.

In 2001, Somali refugees from across the United States began arriving en masse, drawn by cheap rents and safe school opportunities. The mayor asked them to stop coming. “Our city is maxed out financially, physically, and emotionally,” he wrote in an open letter. At that time, similar to today, antirefugee rhetoric emboldened xenophobia. A white supremacist group came to Lewiston to protest what they considered an invasion.

But Somalis saw a chance to open businesses in a town that had declined since the 1970s with the loss of the mill industry. Restaurants and shops took root in the decaying town center that residents referred to as “the combat zone.” It’s taken hard work and cooperative spirit, but Somalis today are integrated, and some, like Zamzam Mohamud, whom the mayor appointed to the school board, have become icons of community engagement. Crime has gone down, according to the police chief. A few years after Somalis began arriving, Inc. magazine named Lewiston one of the best places to do business in America.

St Louis has one of the largest Bosnian refugee populations in the country, many of them Muslims. They began arriving two decades ago and rebuilt their lives and brought prosperity. A local bank took a chance early on, providing loans to buy houses, invest in properties, and open restaurants, bakeries, repair shops, trucking businesses, and cleaning companies. Bosnian entrepreneurship has created jobs and opportunities for other Americans as well. The population of some 70,000 is credited with bolstering sagging school enrollment, invigorating the city center, revitalizing neighborhoods, and stabilizing the city’s decline.

Bosnians in Utica, N.Y., along with Somalis, Burmese, and other refugees stemmed the tide of population decline there and have contributed to such a high degree that the mayor of Utica continues to welcome refugees, including Syrians. A PBS NewsHour report highlights that “Utica’s commitment to resettle refugees isn’t purely humanitarian — its open-door policy is also a pioneering economic tool for revitalizing the Rust Belt.”

They are social workers, farmers, artisans, shopkeepers, doctors, teachers, engineers and others. They go to school, marry, raise families, and contribute to our ethos of hard work, striving, and resilience.

When we are welcoming, a national characteristic rooted in our founders’ search for freedom from persecution and tyranny, we strengthen the social and economic fabric of our towns and cities, and the moral character that has distinguished us. When we malign and shut out refugees, we are not only harming them, we are also limiting our own ability to prosper.
 
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They are still illegal immigrants and refugees who have caused the limited resources of the city of Springfield, Ohio to be stressed and stretched far, far, too much.

No, they aren't. Most of these people are here under temporary protected status as they were fleeing Haiti.
 
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No, they aren't. Most of these people are here under temporary protected status as they were fleeing Haiti.
And they have caused too much stress upon the citizens of Springfield, Ohio while also putting unnecessary stress on the resources of that small city.
 
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Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.
They never came for me, nor my parents because we entered the United States legally. If they follow protocol and the laws - they have nothing to worry about. That is what you are missing.
 
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Most of the people flooding into the US from other countries are said to be asylum seekers fleeing tyranny. As asylum seeking refugees they get free stuff from the US government. Meanwhile the number of US citizens living out on the street continues to increase exponentially. Just how much of a slum does the left want the United States to become? Now many more needy subsisting on government aid does the left want?
 
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No, they aren't. Most of these people are here under temporary protected status as they were fleeing Haiti.
Along with all the other multiple millions from all over the world pouring in. Who have no intention of only staying here temporarily.
 
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They never came for me, nor my parents because we entered the United States legally. If they follow protocol and the laws - they have nothing to worry about. That is what you are missing.
You're missing the point of my post.

Trump is threatening to deport Haitians that are in the country legally. Most of whom are hard workers, contributing to the revitalization of a once dying city; they are filling churches that were struggling to attract new members and starting churches of their own. They are trying their best to assimilate and be good citizens. In recent days, these people have been slandered and dehumanized by a man who wants to hold the highest office in the land. Will you remain silent? Will you let his lies go unchallenged? Will you vote for this man and give him the opportunity to follow through with his threats? If he is successful, who will be his next target?
 
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You're missing the point of my post.

Trump is threatening to deport Haitians that are in the country legally. Most of whom are hard workers, contributing to the revitalization of a once dying city; they are filling churches that were struggling to attract new members and starting churches of their own. They are trying their best to assimilate and be good citizens. In recent days, these people have been slandered and dehumanized by a man who wants to hold the highest office in the land. Will you remain silent? Will you let his lies go unchallenged? Will you vote for this man and give him the opportunity to follow through with his threats? If he is successful, who will be his next target?
It's not just one man who's aware of the huge problem of tens of millions of immigrants from all over the world being given refugee status flooding into the US.
 
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Along with all the other multiple millions from all over the world pouring in. Who have no intention of only staying here temporarily.

So long as you all know that these are basic racist attacks against legal immigrants here because they were having a very bad time.

Now a presidential candidate is threatening to deport them to Venezuela of all places and ginning up hatred against them in the community they are living in.

If that's what you want to own, you do you I guess.
 
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So long as you all know that these are basic racist attacks against legal immigrants here because they were having a very bad time.

If that's what you want to own, you do you I guess.
There is absolutely ZERO racism at all with our objections about massive illegal immigration.
 
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Do you think the solution is to deport them to Venezuela?
The solution should not have been to place 20,000 new immigrants in a city of roughly around 60,000 people.
 
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There is absolutely ZERO racism at all with our objections about massive illegal immigration.

If you think disparaging people by accusing them of eating peoples pets isn't racist I'm not sure how to help you.
 
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The solution should not have been to place 20,000 new immigrants in a city of roughly around 60,000 people.

Place? They were invited, the numbers are also likely exaggerations.

The republican candidate for president wants to dehumanize them and deport them to Venezuela do you agree?
 
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Place? They were invited, the numbers are also likely exaggerations.

The republican candidate for president wants to dehumanize them and deport them to Venezuela do you agree?


Donald Trump does not want to dehumanize them. To suggest otherwise is little more than hyperbole on your part in my opinion.
 
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If you think disparaging people by accusing them of eating peoples pets isn't racist I'm not sure how to help you.
Those accusations are based upon eye witness reports. If you cannot understand that, then I am not sure how to help you.
 
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So long as you all know that these are basic racist attacks against legal immigrants here because they were having a very bad time.

Now a presidential candidate is threatening to deport them to Venezuela of all places and ginning up hatred against them in the community they are living in.

If that's what you want to own, you do you I guess.
Them all being white wouldn't make any difference. If we had tens of millions flooding the US from all over eastern Europe it would not make for a better situation. Trump is far from being the only person who's aware of the totally out of control exponentially growing disaster. How many "refugees" do you think we need here? 150 million? What's the limit?
 
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