Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

[Bradskii]

We ALL believe things that may not be objectively true, but if these things help get us through our day and don’t impinge on other’s lives, c’est le vie.

Well, that's true I guess.

 

[rjs330]

Yeah no. You can know what God communicates, but that is not what he thinks.

We usually think before we really try and communicate. I imagine you've been thinking all along in this thread. Unless you've been lying we know what you think about different subjects because you tell us.

He doesn't always tell us why. But he does tell.us what he thinks.

Look at it this way. If a human could communicate with an ant we could certainly talk about things that are within an ant's view. We could convey the importance of gathering resources for instance. But the any could never understand the idea of hog futures or other advances concepts.

Yes exactly. God doesn't communicate with us about everything. And he doesn't tell us everything. But he does tell us what he thinks about certain things that we need to know about.

There are plenty if other things he knows that he doesn't tell us about.

God would be infinitely far beyond how far we are beyond ants. We could never understand what he thinks.

That's why he tells us what he thinks about some things. Things we can understand.

He is infinitely beyond us. As eternity is beyond us. But because he is God he also has the ability to tell us things we can understand. Limited as we are.

 

[Belk]

We usually think before we really try and communicate. I imagine you've been thinking all along in this thread. Unless you've been lying we know what you think about different subjects because you tell us.

He doesn't always tell us why. But he does tell.us what he thinks.

Yes exactly. God doesn't communicate with us about everything. And he doesn't tell us everything. But he does tell us what he thinks about certain things that we need to know about.

There are plenty if other things he knows that he doesn't tell us about.

That's why he tells us what he thinks about some things. Things we can understand.

He is infinitely beyond us. As eternity is beyond us. But because he is God he also has the ability to tell us things we can understand. Limited as we are.

Hmmmm. I think the nuance of my point is being lost and I am dragging the thread off topic. Suffice to say or disagreement appears to be one of degree and not fundamental nature.

 

[rjs330]

Hmmmm. I think the nuance of my point is being lost and I am dragging the thread off topic. Suffice to say or disagreement appears to be one of degree and not fundamental nature.

I don't think the nuance is being lost at all. Knowing what God thinks is not an all or nothing proposition. He has revealed to us what he wants to reveal.

So yes degree is involved.

 

[Belk]

I don't think the nuance is being lost at all. Knowing what God thinks is not an all or nothing proposition. He has revealed to us what he wants to reveal.

So yes degree is involved.

I do. But enough of this of topic aside. An interesting discussing for a different time.

 

[Pommer]

We usually think before we really try and communicate. I imagine you've been thinking all along in this thread. Unless you've been lying we know what you think about different subjects because you tell us.

He doesn't always tell us why. But he does tell.us what he thinks.

In a limited fashion. We can’t know God’s opinion of kidney transplants, because the Bible is silent on the topic. We can deduce from scripture that He”d probably be “in favor of it”.

Yes exactly. God doesn't communicate with us about everything. And he doesn't tell us everything. But he does tell us what he thinks about certain things that we need to know about.

There’s a lot of humor in the Bible too, but we miss that, since it’s “Holy” it’s somehow devoid of humor.

There are plenty if other things he knows that he doesn't tell us about.

That's why he tells us what he thinks about some things. Things we can understand.

He is infinitely beyond us. As eternity is beyond us. But because he is God he also has the ability to tell us things we can understand. Limited as we are.

The end of John where Jesus promises the indwelling of the Holy Spirit for believers…that’s where one would find Him, relying solely on the Bible only requires faith in the Bible, not in God…in my opinion.

 

[rjs330]

In a limited fashion. We can’t know God’s opinion of kidney transplants, because the Bible is silent on the topic. We can deduce from scripture that He”d probably be “in favor of it”.

Yes, that's my point entirely. We know what God thinks about the things he has chosen to tell us about.

The end of John where Jesus promises the indwelling of the Holy Spirit for believers…that’s where one would find Him, relying solely on the Bible only requires faith in the Bible, not in God…in my opinion.

I certainly understand the point. It's not faith in the Bible, it's faith in God. The scriptures are God's words to us. And we trust his word that it is true and has power.

For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

The word of God is the offensive weapon of the Spirit.

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.

And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God, which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God, which is at work in you believers.


So absolutely the scriptures gave power. And we do have faith in their ability to tell us what God thinks. It is the spirits sword.

But he answered, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Do you honestly think people believe that?

Yup sure do. President Biden's major campaign promise was student loan debt cancellation... Free education. The left passed universal health care, or rather access to it in Obamacare, but they want universal "free" healthcare.

We can have the discussion on if free education and healthcare is bad or not, but it's undeniable that the left is the party of handouts.

 

[RileyG]

Yup sure do. President Biden's major campaign promise was student loan debt cancellation... Free education. The left passed universal health care, or rather access to it in Obamacare, but they want universal "free" healthcare.

We can have the discussion on if free education and healthcare is bad or not, but it's undeniable that the left is the party of handouts.

....or if you choose to go to college, pay back your loans.

I did without anyone's help.

So can anyone else.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

....or if you choose to go to college, pay back your loans.

I did without anyone's help.

So can anyone else.

Oh I agree 100% teaching kids that you can take on financial liabilities and then just be let go of that through no effort of their own is highly irresponsible. And while I'm not financial advisor, I'd wager such large debt forgiveness has to be very destabilizing to financial markets and sectors

 

[DaisyDay]

....or if you choose to go to college, pay back your loans.

I did without anyone's help.

So can anyone else.

The GOP makes its handouts to the rich and to corporations.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

Guess we'll have to see if the GOP realizes that their policy plans are not interesting to a majority of voters. They could change their goals to line up with what voters want and actually have a chance to win elections, or perhaps they'll continue doubling down on trying to outdo each other in how much they can alienate the voting public.
Seems like either way America wins.

It's amazing how selfish and weak people are in Kansas, in the Republican Party and in pretty much the whole USA when they can't stand for stopping the malicious murders of unborn children. We know the Democratic Party is very strong and evil for promoting these malicious murders of unborn children. Too bad there are very few strong warriors who will defend the unborn. We live in a very sick minded country. I can actually understand why some of the other countries in the world call us "The Great Satan".

You who are for killing the unborn in the womb will have your judgement day. Change your ways!

 

[RileyG]

It's amazing how selfish and weak people are in Kansas, in the Republican Party and in pretty much the whole USA when they can't stand for stopping the malicious murders of unborn children. We know the Democratic Party is very strong and evil for promoting these malicious murders of unborn children. Too bad there are very few strong warriors who will defend the unborn. We live in a very sick minded country. I can actually understand why some of the other countries in the world call us "The Great Satan".

You who are for killing the unborn in the womb will have your judgement day. Change your ways!

Well said.

They should ask themselves: Would God be proud?

 

[RileyG]

The GOP makes its handouts to the rich and to corporations.

I'm not saying you're wrong.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

Do you really think that wanting some nice things and a decent living standard is greed?

No, but viciously murdering a child in the mother's womb is evil, disgusting and WRONG and should be fought for ending as much as poverty. So, stop trying to make this a either or scenario. We Must uplift the poor and struggling middle class so they can live decently (in a happier state than what is given to them now) AND stop performing abortion for selfish reasons (and know I am talking about the 97% of abortions that don't fall under the category of rape, incest or the mother's health, so please do not bring that up as your argument for abortion).

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Kansas votes to protect abortion rights in state constitution

Yay states rights.

Yay! Thank Trump and SCOTUS for giving abortion rights back to the states! Yay!

 

[Hvizsgyak]

The people have spoken!

Oh wait, this is America.

Dead in the Senate!

I pray that more sensible minds will not allow what the misguided people of Kansas want. "Dead in the Senate" is my hope .

 

[Hvizsgyak]

Link, please.



She must have been disappointed, since Obama didn't promise handouts to anyone.

Doesn't need a link, even an idiot can see that today!!!

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Do you honestly think people believe that?

I do. Unless someone proves me wrong.

 

[Hvizsgyak]

GOP: 'Yay! It's no longer a federal matter. It's down to the states. Let the people decide!'
Kansan: 'We just did. We decided to keep access to abortion'.
GOP: 'What the..? Well, we'll see about that!'

Let the states decide is one thing but to place it in their constitution where future generations have to get an overwhelming majority is wrong. And I'll say that about the states that put in their constitutions that abortions should be banned. If the states are going to decide then make it so the law can be changed when the populous requires it.