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Kansas votes 62% to retain the right to access an abortion in its constitution.

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The universe wasn't created to make us happy. Nobody said everything is random.
And? I never said any of that, sir.
 
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Everything is random and no one created us? It’s all an accident and life has no meaning? I HIGHLY doubt that.
Have you ever given this more than absolute rejection?
It’s a powerful thought to have I’ll grant you, and not one I’d expect most people to have with any serious consideration, that’s what cognitive dissonance feels like.
That thought of being “stranded“ out in the universe with nothing “holding it altogether” yet being comfortable with that…that requires a non-theological “faith” in our ability to reason our way through life rather than rely on ancient writings! And having to have a God to anchor it all in place.
 
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This is even easier.

Arkansas election officials reject petitions submitted for an abortion rights ballot measure

The Arkansas secretary of state’s office rejected the petitions for the effort to amend the state constitution, saying organizers had failed to include required statements regarding paid signature gatherers.
[The sponsors of the petitions, Arkansans for Limited Government, vows to fight.]

Arkansas Supreme Court upholds rejection of petitions to let voters decide on abortion access

Election officials said Arkansans for Limited Government failed to comply with state law primarily because it submitted documentation regarding paid signature gatherers separately and not in a single bundle.

[The sponsors were given no opportunity to amend their submission.]
 
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Have you ever given this more than absolute rejection?
It’s a powerful thought to have I’ll grant you, and not one I’d expect most people to have with any serious consideration, that’s what cognitive dissonance feels like.
That thought of being “stranded“ out in the universe with nothing “holding it altogether” yet being comfortable with that…that requires a non-theological “faith” in our ability to reason our way through life rather than rely on ancient writings! And having to have a God to anchor it all in place.
As odd as it may sound, an uncreated Creator makes more sense to me than there being absolutely nothing, then BOOM the universe is created. Of course, the human mind can’t comprehend nothingness or a deity that always existed.

What do I know anyway?
 
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Arkansas Supreme Court upholds rejection of petitions to let voters decide on abortion access

Election officials said Arkansans for Limited Government failed to comply with state law primarily because it submitted documentation regarding paid signature gatherers separately and not in a single bundle.

[The sponsors were given no opportunity to amend their submission.]
From a pro-life perspective, this is trying to close the barn doors after the horses got out.
 
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As odd as it may sound, an uncreated Creator makes more sense to me than there being absolutely nothing, then BOOM the universe is created. Of course, the human mind can’t comprehend nothingness or a deity that always existed.
The big question in all human thinking is "why is there something, instead of nothing?" And an eternal Creator explains that nicely. It's not a slam-dunk in itself, but no one can come up with anything else that makes sense.
 
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The big question in all human thinking is "why is there something, instead of nothing?" And an eternal Creator explains that nicely.
Saying god/sdidit is adding another thing in need of explanation.
 
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From a pro-life perspective, this is trying to close the barn doors after the horses got out.
They caught the car they had been running after for decades.
 
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Saying god/sdidit is adding another thing in need of explanation.
Yes, but if you want to say "the universe created itself" or "the universe is eternal", that pulls up even more questions.
 
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As odd as it may sound, an uncreated Creator makes more sense to me than there being absolutely nothing, then BOOM the universe is created. Of course, the human mind can’t comprehend nothingness or a deity that always existed.

What do I know anyway?
Just to point out that current scientific models do not have the universe coming from nothing but from a singularity that contained all space time and mass. :oldthumbsup:
 
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Just to point out that current scientific models do not have the universe coming from nothing but from a singularity that contained all space time and mass. :oldthumbsup:
Thanks for the info!
 
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Just to point out that current scientific models do not have the universe coming from nothing but from a singularity that contained all space time and mass. :oldthumbsup:
Where the singularity was is one of those fun things to think about.
 
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Just to point out that current scientific models do not have the universe coming from nothing but from a singularity that contained all space time and mass. :oldthumbsup:
I wonder where the singularity came from? Have we been able to test that theory? Who made up these models?
 
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I wonder where the singularity came from? Have we been able to test that theory? Who made up these models?
Our physics stops at plank time after the expansion started. Prior to that we have no ability to even conceptualize what it must of been like. The models where developed by astrophysicists. The first to propose it was a catholic priest, Georges Lemaître.
 
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The left promises to help the poor achieve a tolerable living standard.

The right promises to help the company that the poor will someday own.
The right says the poor have too much money.

The left says the poor could use a break.
 
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I wonder where the singularity came from? Have we been able to test that theory? Who made up these models?
Even better, current measurements are consistent with all mass and energy adding up to zero. So the universe is a reexpression of nothingness.
 
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As odd as it may sound, an uncreated Creator makes more sense to me than there being absolutely nothing, then BOOM the universe is created. Of course, the human mind can’t comprehend nothingness or a deity that always existed.

What do I know anyway?
It’s fine (and good even) that you think that there would have to be a Creator (and/or God) for the universe make more sense to you.

I like to think that we humans are happy accidents that “happened” because of the way chemicals play with one another and we get to discover “the real truth®️™️” how ever we chance across it.

Enjoy your evening.
 
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