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Lebanon - The Last to Return

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Something just dawned on me. Lebanon is the last place the diaspora will return from. Zechariah 9-10 talk about the return of exiles to the promised land from places like Egypt and Assyria. Then Zechariah 11 talks about Lebanon and oppressive shepherds. Zechariah wrote to the Jews in exile to encourage them to leave the lands of exile and resettle their own land. Zechariah 11 comes right before Zechariah 12’s passage about Jerusalem becoming a stumbling block to all nations.

Lebanon has a three part government that is, by Consitution, led by a Maronite Christian, a Sunni Muslim, and a Shia Muslim. And then there is Hezbollah, who has recently threatened the Christians and Jews in the country. It seems to me that Lebanon will soon undergo a coup where its three leaders (shepherds of the Jews) are removed in one month and replaced by a worthless shepherd who seeks to destroy the Jews.

Thoughts? Are seeing this fulfilled before our very eyes?
 
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Something just dawned on me. Lebanon is the last place the diaspora will return from. Zechariah 9-10 talk about the return of exiles to the promised land from places like Egypt and Assyria. Then Zechariah 11 talks about Lebanon and oppressive shepherds. Zechariah wrote to the Jews in exile to encourage them to leave the lands of exile and resettle their own land. Zechariah 11 comes right before Zechariah 12’s passage about Jerusalem becoming a stumbling block to all nations.

Lebanon has a three part government that is, by Consitution, led by a Maronite Christian, a Sunni Muslim, and a Shia Muslim. And then there is Hezbollah, who has recently threatened the Christians and Jews in the country. It seems to me that Lebanon will soon undergo a coup where its three leaders (shepherds of the Jews) are removed in one month and replaced by a worthless shepherd who seeks to destroy the Jews.

Thoughts? Are seeing this fulfilled before our very eyes?
Do you have any news source (BBC, AP, Reuters, etc) on when the coup is gonna happen? If not, then this may be speculation. I am not usually part of the End Times thread, but to help others respond better to your post, it might be a good idea to cite a news source, brother in Christ. :)
 
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Something just dawned on me. Lebanon is the last place the diaspora will return from. Zechariah 9-10 talk about the return of exiles to the promised land from places like Egypt and Assyria. Then Zechariah 11 talks about Lebanon and oppressive shepherds. Zechariah wrote to the Jews in exile to encourage them to leave the lands of exile and resettle their own land. Zechariah 11 comes right before Zechariah 12’s passage about Jerusalem becoming a stumbling block to all nations.

Lebanon has a three part government that is, by Consitution, led by a Maronite Christian, a Sunni Muslim, and a Shia Muslim. And then there is Hezbollah, who has recently threatened the Christians and Jews in the country. It seems to me that Lebanon will soon undergo a coup where its three leaders (shepherds of the Jews) are removed in one month and replaced by a worthless shepherd who seeks to destroy the Jews.

Thoughts? Are seeing this fulfilled before our very eyes?
What is Lebanon of today was once the territory of the twelve tribes of land given to them by God, spoken of in the book of Joshua (Joshua 13. Lebanon spoken of by name in verse 5).

Here is a map I found on the internet...


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Thanks for sharing an insight from the bible on this. Yes that sounds very logical and history has shown lots of problems in Lebanon. Here is an article on Lebanon instability, though a bit general. Instability in Lebanon | Global Conflict Tracker
Here is that lays out the strategy Iran is using in Lebanon and Syria. I think it has much of this right, except it is likely over optimistic that the EU or USA can work to de-escalate the Iranian intentions.
 
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Do you have any news source (BBC, AP, Reuters, etc) on when the coup is gonna happen? If not, then this may be speculation. I am not usually part of the End Times thread, but to help others respond better to your post, it might be a good idea to cite a news source, brother in Christ. :)
Hi Alex, I tried using AI. the answer was pretty good on What are the chances of a Coup taking place in Lebanon?

"According to Ask Ai www.iAsk.ai:
Chances of a Lebanese Coup Taking Place
To assess the likelihood of a coup occurring in Lebanon, we can analyze several factors that contribute to political instability and the potential for military takeovers.
1. Historical Context of Coups in Lebanon Lebanon has a complex political history characterized by sectarian divisions and civil conflict. The country has experienced various forms of political upheaval, including coups and attempted coups, particularly during the Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990). However, since the end of the civil war, Lebanon has not seen a successful coup d’état.
2. Current Political Landscape The current political landscape in Lebanon is marked by significant instability due to economic crises, public discontent over corruption, and ineffective governance. The country is grappling with severe financial challenges, which have led to widespread protests against the ruling elite. These conditions create an environment where dissatisfaction with the government could potentially lead to attempts at overthrowing it.
3. Social and Governance Risks According to risk indices that evaluate social and governance factors, Lebanon scores poorly on metrics such as government stability, freedom of opinion and expression, and democratic governance. High levels of poverty, unemployment, and public unrest are prevalent in Lebanon. Such socio-economic conditions increase vulnerability to coups as they weaken governmental authority and legitimacy.
4. Military Influence The role of the military in Lebanese politics is also crucial when considering coup probabilities. The Lebanese Armed Forces have historically maintained a degree of neutrality amidst political strife; however, their involvement or support for any faction could significantly alter the power dynamics within the country. If factions within the military were to align with discontented groups or political leaders seeking power through forceful means, this could heighten the risk of a coup.
5. Regional Influences Lebanon’s geopolitical situation further complicates its internal stability. The influence of foreign powers—such as Iran’s support for Hezbollah—adds layers of complexity to any potential coup scenario. External actors may either support or suppress coup attempts based on their strategic interests in Lebanon.
6. Predictive Models Using predictive models like the State Instability Index can provide insights into potential destabilizing events in Lebanon. While specific data on Lebanon’s ranking may vary over time, it is essential to note that countries with similar socio-political characteristics often appear on lists indicating high risks for coups.
In conclusion, while there are significant red flags indicating instability in Lebanon—including economic distress and poor governance—the actual probability of a successful coup remains uncertain due to mitigating factors such as military neutrality and external influences.
Based on these analyses:
The chances of a Lebanese coup taking place are moderate but contingent upon various internal and external factors influencing stability.

Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used:
  • Political Risk Outlook 2022: This source provides insights into global political risks including trends related to coups and state instability.
  • State Instability Index: A predictive model assessing risks associated with major destabilizing events across different countries.
  • Social and Governance Risk Indices: These indices evaluate countries based on governance quality metrics which help identify vulnerabilities related to potential coups."

Interestingly I asked this AI if I could quote the whole answer. It said yes, but to be ethical I have to cite in one of the approved styles etc. Too bad it does not cite its sources, other than some unnamed data it summarizes.

I have an unrelated question to the thread and i can post it new if it has not been discussed, Anyway, I tried out MSFT co-pilot a couple of months ago and asked tough questions like what it thought about it using copyrighted material in its answers or something along those lines. I noticed when the questions were sensitive, I could see the computer answer but then just a couple of seconds later, the answer would disappear and it would make up some excuse as to why that was inappropriate. I found that rather amusing and to me just shows that corporate managers will censure AI responses. Am I right to assume this is typical?
God bless!
 
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Hi Alex, I tried using AI. the answer was pretty good on What are the chances of a Coup taking place in Lebanon?

"According to Ask Ai www.iAsk.ai:
Chances of a Lebanese Coup Taking Place
To assess the likelihood of a coup occurring in Lebanon, we can analyze several factors that contribute to political instability and the potential for military takeovers.
1. Historical Context of Coups in Lebanon Lebanon has a complex political history characterized by sectarian divisions and civil conflict. The country has experienced various forms of political upheaval, including coups and attempted coups, particularly during the Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990). However, since the end of the civil war, Lebanon has not seen a successful coup d’état.
2. Current Political Landscape The current political landscape in Lebanon is marked by significant instability due to economic crises, public discontent over corruption, and ineffective governance. The country is grappling with severe financial challenges, which have led to widespread protests against the ruling elite. These conditions create an environment where dissatisfaction with the government could potentially lead to attempts at overthrowing it.
3. Social and Governance Risks According to risk indices that evaluate social and governance factors, Lebanon scores poorly on metrics such as government stability, freedom of opinion and expression, and democratic governance. High levels of poverty, unemployment, and public unrest are prevalent in Lebanon. Such socio-economic conditions increase vulnerability to coups as they weaken governmental authority and legitimacy.
4. Military Influence The role of the military in Lebanese politics is also crucial when considering coup probabilities. The Lebanese Armed Forces have historically maintained a degree of neutrality amidst political strife; however, their involvement or support for any faction could significantly alter the power dynamics within the country. If factions within the military were to align with discontented groups or political leaders seeking power through forceful means, this could heighten the risk of a coup.
5. Regional Influences Lebanon’s geopolitical situation further complicates its internal stability. The influence of foreign powers—such as Iran’s support for Hezbollah—adds layers of complexity to any potential coup scenario. External actors may either support or suppress coup attempts based on their strategic interests in Lebanon.
6. Predictive Models Using predictive models like the State Instability Index can provide insights into potential destabilizing events in Lebanon. While specific data on Lebanon’s ranking may vary over time, it is essential to note that countries with similar socio-political characteristics often appear on lists indicating high risks for coups.
In conclusion, while there are significant red flags indicating instability in Lebanon—including economic distress and poor governance—the actual probability of a successful coup remains uncertain due to mitigating factors such as military neutrality and external influences.
Based on these analyses:
The chances of a Lebanese coup taking place are moderate but contingent upon various internal and external factors influencing stability.

Top 3 Authoritative Sources Used:
  • Political Risk Outlook 2022: This source provides insights into global political risks including trends related to coups and state instability.
  • State Instability Index: A predictive model assessing risks associated with major destabilizing events across different countries.
  • Social and Governance Risk Indices: These indices evaluate countries based on governance quality metrics which help identify vulnerabilities related to potential coups."

Interestingly I asked this AI if I could quote the whole answer. It said yes, but to be ethical I have to cite in one of the approved styles etc. Too bad it does not cite its sources, other than some unnamed data it summarizes.

I have an unrelated question to the thread and i can post it new if it has not been discussed, Anyway, I tried out MSFT co-pilot a couple of months ago and asked tough questions like what it thought about it using copyrighted material in its answers or something along those lines. I noticed when the questions were sensitive, I could see the computer answer but then just a couple of seconds later, the answer would disappear and it would make up some excuse as to why that was inappropriate. I found that rather amusing and to me just shows that corporate managers will censure AI responses. Am I right to assume this is typical?
God bless!
Good job, but what does moderate mean as a percentage?

Also, to avoid corporate censures, just download your own AI (such as Mistral AI), if you have a fast enough computer.
 
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Good job, but what does moderate mean as a percentage?

Also, to avoid corporate censures, just download your own AI (such as Mistral AI), if you have a fast enough computer
I guess moderate is fair, so 50/50 give or take a bit. I know the U.S. State Dept. told Americans they should leave. I would not want to be in the minority groups there.
 
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Do you have any news source (BBC, AP, Reuters, etc) on when the coup is gonna happen? If not, then this may be speculation. I am not usually part of the End Times thread, but to help others respond better to your post, it might be a good idea to cite a news source, brother in Christ. :)

I thought it was clear I was speculating, sorry. I was citing Zechariah 11:7-9 in my speculation. Here are some helpful sources to support my interpretation:

Read this one first: ‘Role of Christians in Lebanon has ended,’ Hezbollah-affiliated commentator threatens


 
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What is Lebanon of today was once the territory of the twelve tribes of land given to them by God, spoken of in the book of Joshua (Joshua 13. Lebanon spoken of by name in verse 5).

Here is a map I found on the internet...


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Part of it, at least. Zechariah 9:1-8 does point to a time when Damascus, Tyre, and Sidon all face judgment by God for their treatment of the Jews. Verse 8 places this far in the future from Zechariah because it says, "Never again will an oppressor overrun my people, for now I am keeping watch." (Zech 9:8 NIV).

To me, Hezbollah is definitely an oppressor. The Islamic Republic devours the cultures of every country they infest. They remove the salt from the earth so that it no longer is desirable. When God passes this judgment on Lebanon and Syria, hopefully God's people will have already moved to Israel.
 
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I thought it was clear I was speculating, sorry. I was citing Zechariah 11:7-9 in my speculation. Here are some helpful sources to support my interpretation:

Read this one first: ‘Role of Christians in Lebanon has ended,’ Hezbollah-affiliated commentator threatens


Thank you for the sources. Anyways, there is this old saying, that speculation leads nowhere. I do not like speculating as much as I used to.

James 4:13-15 (NKJV): "Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit”; whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away. Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that."

Proverbs 27:1 (NKJV): "Do not boast about tomorrow, For you do not know what a day may bring forth."

From Speculation Devotional:
 
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I guess moderate is fair, so 50/50 give or take a bit. I know the U.S. State Dept. told Americans they should leave. I would not want to be in the minority groups there.
Well, I will not speculate, but I do hope that the Americans leave Lebanon, before the Middle East explodes into war. The Israel-Hamas conflict might spill over into other countries and cause a global war from the worst-case scenario.

Lebanon is still reeling from that fertilizer disaster in August 2020.
 
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Well, I will not speculate, but I do hope that the Americans leave Lebanon, before the Middle East explodes into war. The Israel-Hamas conflict might spill over into other countries and cause a global war from the worst-case scenario.

Lebanon is still reeling from that fertilizer disaster in August 2020.

Yeah it's wild. Loudest man-made, non-nuclear explosion recorded. I think speculation is okay when it is done humbly and maturely. Jesus told us to be watchful for the signs of His coming. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm not going to ask anyone to sell all they have and run to the top of a hill or anything. I do think leaving Lebanon is wise and welcomed.
 
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Yeah it's wild. Loudest man-made, non-nuclear explosion recorded. I think speculation is okay when it is done humbly and maturely. Jesus told us to be watchful for the signs of His coming. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm not going to ask anyone to sell all they have and run to the top of a hill or anything. I do think leaving Lebanon is wise and welcomed.
Yep, we are near the end times. That is something I do believe in. And yep, loudest non nuke explosion.
 
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