Walz who said, "Mind your own business" set up snitch line during COVID

[Tropical Wilds]

Sadly, it's not a conspiracy theory.

It is, paired with numbers manipulation, and a shocking lack of understanding of statistics, but I digress.

There is no misrepresentation. The hotline was set up to report people for violating the social distancing rules. Which, to be clear, were based on absolutely nothing.

Fifth time… People were already calling 911, it was causing issues, they created a line for people who were already calling with questions and problems to be able to be heard without bothering emergency services.

It is the difference between “here is a good number to call if you see a fire so we can decide if it’s a candle or a forest fire and then act because the number you’re all using now is not appropriate” and “you are ordered to go call this number any time you see something with a match or lighter and something flammable.”

I get why you want to reframe that, since you seem to be in favor of it. But it was nothing more than a line for tattling on your neighbors.

"We're seeing crowds that are a little too big, especially around the lakes," said Gov. Tim Walz on Tuesday. ​

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Bde Maka Ska, Harriet, Lake of the Isles, and Nokomis are popular destinations for walkers, bicyclists and joggers, and when the weather gets nice – as it has the past two days – they're even more likely to attract Minnesotans looking to get some fresh air. ​

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In wake of the governor's stay-at-home order, which still allows people to leave their homes for fresh air and runs to stores for essential needs, a hotline has been established that allows anyone to report groups of people that aren't following social distancing measures.​

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Perhaps the most astonishing line is that the governor's order still "allows people to leave their homes for fresh air". That's mighty kind of him!

Was this quote pulled from your baloney article?

 

[wing2000]

Mind your own business.

Most reasonable people understand the Federal Government can and should take actions to protect the citizens from an enemy that is killing tens of thousand of it's citizens. And that applies to both human and pathological enemies. If the Pentagon asked citizens to participate in a blackout in defense of a given location, inevitably some citizens might refuse to comply and be "snitched on". The same is true of COVID measures. I see no difference.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

You support a snitch line for reporting abortions that violate the law?

No way.

Are you aware that there are places in the world other than the US?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/20/asia/china-shijiazhuang-covid-quarantine-intl-hnk-scli/index.html

How is what China did relevant here? They don’t answer to the US government and they certainly didn’t act on the guidance of Tim’s. You do know Minnesota isn’t in China, right?

COVID "exposure notifications" were opt-out, but the sheer idiocy surrounding COVID "social distancing" rules was forced on everyone. When school finally returned to in-person, my daughter had to again be removed for 10 days because she had been a "close contact" of someone in her class who had COVID. During that time, she had absolutely no symptoms. She was perfectly fine. Yet she was made to sit at home because of the nonsensical rules that were implemented. Her education suffered immensely because of COVID.

Don't try to pretend like no one was "forced" during COVID. Fools willingly surrendered their freedom and their liberty for the illusion of safety. Those same fools forced their idiocy on society.

Whoops, you’re off track again… I’m going to need you focus because you’re using this one totally unrelated article to get a bit hysterical over everything from opt-in programs to your daughter to China, which are all totally unrelated to the topic you introduced.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

You support a snitch line for reporting abortions that violate the law?

So that post was to somebody else as part of a conversation, which you’re apparently not paying attention too, and I’m really going to need you to focus on only one tangent at a time.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I didn’t stutter.

Well, I’m genuinely very proud of you for your consistency of views even when they oppose other beliefs you have. No snark or sarcasm, I genuinely mean it. It’s nice to see consistency applied on all views, including the ones you don’t really like. It takes character.

 

[probinson]

It is, paired with numbers manipulation, and a shocking lack of understanding of statistics,

Yes indeed. There was a disturbing amount of number manipulation and a shocking lack of understanding of statistics by "experts" that really should have known better.

Fifth time… People were already calling 911, it was causing issues, they created a line for people who were already calling with questions and problems to be able to be heard without bothering emergency services.

I know you really, really believe this. But the evidence shows otherwise.

A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz’s administration to monitor compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of reports from Minnesotans who snitched on their neighbors for things like playing basketball in a park, walking their dogs, and throwing small parties.​

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One Minnesota: Thousands reported on neighbors using tattle-tale hotline during pandemic AlphaNews.org

A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz's administration to monitor compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of reports from Minnesotans.

alphanews.org

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This wasn't just an "Oh, I'm concerned about COVID and need someone to talk to" hotline. This hotline existed for the sole purpose of reporting your neighbors for violating government stay-at-home orders.

 

[probinson]

No way.

How is what China did relevant here? They don’t answer to the US government and they certainly didn’t act on the guidance of Tim’s. You do know Minnesota isn’t in China, right?

You said "no one" was forcibly quarantined. Just trying to educate you so you don't propagate that bit of misinformation again. You're welcome!

 

[probinson]

Mind your own business.

Most reasonable people understand the Federal Government can and should take actions to protect the citizens from an enemy that is killing tens of thousand of it's citizens. And that applies to both human and pathological enemies. If the Pentagon asked citizens to participate in a blackout in defense of a given location, inevitably some citizens might refuse to comply and be "snitched on". The same is true of COVID measures. I see no difference.

I am continually amazed at just how much COVID broke people.

 

[probinson]

No way.

So you only support snitch lines for some violations of some laws?

 

[wing2000]

I am continually amazed at just how much COVID broke people.

Cool. Be amazed. We disagree. That's fine.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Pregnancy isn't contagious. COVID was spread quickly. Hospitals were full. People were dying.
Because the former president looked at COVID as an economic problem that would create vacancies in his hotels and slow the economy, we had the highest death rates in the developed world. And people were confused and didn't know what to do.
If someone's actions harm others, it is everyone's business.
And business openings were further delayed when people failed to wear masks and social distance.
Flouting laws is a new conservative act of defiance. My state actually passed a law saying that any gun laws passed after July, 2021 would not be valid in the state. Texas does the same. This shouldn't happen. Rebellious conservative governments can't decide what laws they won't follow.
Bit to return to the subject, if you put others in danger it is my business.

Living is a choice dying is not. EVERY life owes a death ( even science proves that. CO-VID did not keep people from dying it kept people from living. In fact co-vid is likely kinda of like 9/11 in the sense that we are likely still losing people to it and I am not talkig about the fact that people still die of co-vid I am talking about preventive things that went udone that may or may not could have caught something earlier.

They should have let people make their OWN decisions my rule would have been this as long as you agree not to seek medical treatment if you get very sick with it you do you and I will do me as at the end of the day co-vid prevented living not dying. Dying can ONLY be postponed living is a choice .

 

[dogs4thewin]

I understand that there are Covid deniers out there. I had three family members die from Covid. I can not deny. That being said, if Walz put strict restrictions in place to save lives, I commend his efforts even if it means reporting " bad actors" .

I do not deny people died from co-vid I do believe it was overplayed and I also believe that FAR fewer died just of co-vid most had other things going on . In fact co-vid was likely a blessing for some people in the sense that they may have died quicker thanthey otherwise would have and that was a blessing because of the life they were living

 

[dogs4thewin]

Walz actions probably saved several thousand lives.

Minnesota has the fourth LOWEST Covid death rate in the US. At 31.3 deaths/100,000 its death rate is less than half that of the worst state (Kentucky 72.9).
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LocationSort by Location in descending order	Death Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by Death Rate (Click for Rankings) in descending order	DeathsSort by Deaths in descending order
Hawaii	20.3	444
Vermont	25.2	238
New Hampshire	30.3	615
Minnesota	31.3	2,299
Washington	31.6	2,918
District Of Columbia	33.1	226
Utah	33.3	970
Montana	33.6	516
Massachusetts	34	3,177
Oregon	34.1	1,902
North Dakota	34.2	330
Florida	34.4	12,165
Colorado	34.8	2,259
Rhode Island	35	535
Nebraska	35.5	873
Idaho	36.3	823
Wisconsin	36.7	2,878
Maine	37.2	798
California	37.8	17,504
Alaska	38.3	264
South Dakota	39.4	453
Iowa	39.7	1,714
Wyoming	40	291
Maryland	40.2	3,088
New Jersey	40.6	4,947
Connecticut	40.8	2,022
New York	41.4	11,129
Louisiana	43.1	2,360
Delaware	43.7	619
Virginia	44.4	4,731
Michigan	45.1	5,969
Illinois	45.5	7,281
Georgia	47.1	5,635
Arizona	47.4	4,607
North Carolina	47.4	6,275
Pennsylvania	47.5	8,745
Texas	49	14,573
South Carolina	51	3,502
Missouri	53.8	4,318
Arkansas	54.4	2,114
Alabama	54.6	3,576
Indiana	54.9	4,577
Kansas	56.1	2,043
Nevada	58.3	2,198
Ohio	60.1	9,333
New Mexico	61.8	1,665
Tennessee	62	5,400
Mississippi	63.8	2,300
West Virginia	71.5	1,857
Oklahoma	71.9	3,413
Kentucky	72.9	4,083

COVID-19 Mortality by State

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

Really punishing people for co-vid "violations" made NO sense the fact is that tose "crimes" (note the quotes were non-violent so you either A took people in to crowded booking areas where co-vid was bound to spread or you issued them a citation which would require some form of court or else a bench warrent. Funny how they released people from jails'prisons and yet had laws that criminalized non-violent acts of existing somewhere outside your house.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Everyone should be concerned about public health.
The faster we got a grip on the pandemic, the faster our economy could recover.

I guess you noted that some states opened up faster than others I noticed GA opened up pretty quickly and shocker the governor who opened up the state is still the governor an election later.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Yes indeed. There was a disturbing amount of number manipulation and a shocking lack of understanding of statistics by "experts" that really should have known better.

I know you really, really believe this. But the evidence shows otherwise.

A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz’s administration to monitor compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of reports from Minnesotans who snitched on their neighbors for things like playing basketball in a park, walking their dogs, and throwing small parties.​

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One Minnesota: Thousands reported on neighbors using tattle-tale hotline during pandemic AlphaNews.org

A hotline set up by Gov. Tim Walz's administration to monitor compliance with his 2020 stay-at-home order generated thousands of reports from Minnesotans.

alphanews.org

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This wasn't just an "Oh, I'm concerned about COVID and need someone to talk to" hotline. This hotline existed for the sole purpose of reporting your neighbors for violating government stay-at-home orders.

We've taken the train to conspiracy-town again, so I'm really going to need you to take the train back to reality with us, because that's a trip I'm not taking. Screencaps of emails that may or may not have been sent during COVID posted on a conspiracy theorist website are not a thing I can lower myself to spend the time answering.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

You said "no one" was forcibly quarantined. Just trying to educate you so you don't propagate that bit of misinformation again. You're welcome!

We were talking in the context of America, which you know as you're the one who introduced the topic. Maybe you have to resort to intellectual dishonesty and word games to feel like you have a valid point, but I certainly do not.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Since when is quarantine not a well-established public health principle? Lockdowns didn't even go that far. You certainly wouldn't have wanted me to be in charge during the height of COVID-19, I would have been pushing tight quarantines all over the place to try to keep the virus contained as much as possible.

Quarantine is wheb you are sick and you stay away from people Having everyone stay at home because we do not know if you are sick messed up the eeconomy, may have TAKEN more lives than it saved or at least did not save as many as people like to think and was just not good.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

So you only support snitch lines for some violations of some laws?

I support leadership identifying that too many people are using an emergency line to report non-emergencies, then opening up a non-emergency line to handle calls related to that one topic so as to not burden the emergency infrastructure during an emergency, yes.

But then again, I worked as a 911 dispatcher for several years and I know the what the burden of taking non-emergency calls during emergencies creates. If that's an experience you haven't had and/or you're not pro-emergency services or supporting means for them to do their jobs to the best of their abilities, I can see why you have the level of hostility about emergency services it that you apparently do.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Pregnancy isn't contagious. COVID was spread quickly. Hospitals were full. People were dying.

True.

Because the former president looked at COVID as an economic problem that would create vacancies in his hotels and slow the economy, we had the highest death rates in the developed world.

Ok...

And people were confused and didn't know what to do.

Absolutely.

If someone's actions harm others, it is everyone's business.

No it isn't.

You're surely aware that people drink and drive...people drive while texting...

Imagine the pathetic sniveling scum that would spend their time sitting by a road, calling the snitch line on anyone they suspect is texting.

Basically just boot licking Stasi scum.

The sort of person who snitches on his own neighbor just to feel powerful or important.

And business openings were further delayed when people failed to wear masks and social distance.

Pointless.

Flouting laws is a new conservative act of defiance.

Bending over backwards to do the job of the police while literally protesting against the oppressive police is the new trend on the left.

Imagine a group of people lock step with their government, lock step with corporate messaging, lock step with academia orthodoxy....

And imagine these same people believe they're resisting the "status quo".

 

[chevyontheriver]

Bending over backwards to do the job of the police while literally protesting against the oppressive police is the new trend on the left.

Imagine a group of people lock step with their government, lock step with corporate messaging, lock step with academia orthodoxy....

And imagine these same people believe they're resisting the "status quo".

This!