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Absolute proof.. can't deny.. the earth is flat

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Well if you can't do this simple experiment, there must be something wrong with it.
I can see Saturn and its rings clearly and the moon's of Saturn. I can see Jupiter and its moon's clearly, so nothing wrong with my telescope.
 
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Flat earrth is rubbish, and makes Christians sound like imbeciles.

Tell that to God, he's the one who created a stationary level earth with a protective cover.
 
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Tell that to God, he's the one who created a stationary level earth with a protective cover.
I would never tell God such nonsense
 
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When flat earthers do this experiment, they always choose small boats, that at a distance become too small for the angular resolution of the human eye.

Tell this to Rob Skiba.

This is the short version of a longer video I will put up showing the results of my trip across Lake Michigan, wherein we saw Chicago the whole time for nearly 46 miles. This one just gives the highlights of the journey. In the longer video, I will explain more about the trip, the observations we had during it and my more recent conclusions based on the past year's worth of research.

 
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I take it you've done this yourself ?
Yep. Ferry from AArhus DK to Copenhagen. Wonderful boat ride, runs down the Kattegatt at about 40-45 knots. Heading south, watch the Aarhus skyline disappear into the water, and then watch them reemerge on the run back home. 10x50 binocs, iPhone 12, naked eyes, all the same. Southbound he buildings disappear into the sea from the bottom up, and magnification just makes the parts still above water bigger. Bits "below the water" still are. Take the elevator up to the Texas/hurricane deck, allows you to see about one floor lower. One the way home, the city rises from the sea in stately fashion, and both "bring 'em nears" reveal the same scene as the naked eye, only bigger. BTW, no imaginary "mist" obscuring anything on a warm summer day.

So yeah, I've tried it. You, however, quite obviously have not.
If you had you will find that stuff when magnified comes back into view.
Not at all. You obviously haven't tried it.
 
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Well if you can't do this simple experiment, there must be something wrong with it.
Our results are consistent. Yours are aberrant. You're not looking hrough a paper towel tube are you?
 
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we saw Chicago the whole time for nearly 46 miles.
How far he ran is irrelevant, only his distance from the city. That, and how high above sea level his viewpoint was.
 
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Our results are consistent. Yours are aberrant. You're not looking hrough a paper towel tube are you?

What are you looking through, one of these ?

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I can see Saturn and its rings clearly and the moon's of Saturn. I can see Jupiter and its moon's clearly, so nothing wrong with my telescope.
Son-in-law has has an 8" reflector that he's shown me stuff like Jupiter amd its moons and Saturn. I'd never seen them before except in photos. Wonderful!
 
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How far he ran is irrelevant, only his distance from the city. That, and how high above sea level his viewpoint was.

Many people saw Chicago 46 miles away from across Michigan bay, a reporter on the weather news tried to tell people they had seen a mirage but Rob Skiba proved him wrong.
 
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Son-in-law has has an 8" reflector that he's shown me stuff like Jupiter amd its moons and Saturn. I'd never seen them before except in photos. Wonderful!

It's all wonderful especially the stars like Saturn, Jupiter etc. :star:
 
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Tell this to Rob Skiba.
You're just trying to get me arrested for disturbing a grave site
This is the short version of a longer video I will put up showing the results of my trip across Lake Michigan, wherein we saw Chicago the whole time for nearly 46 miles. This one just gives the highlights of the journey. In the longer video, I will explain more about the trip, the observations we had during it and my more recent conclusions based on the past year's worth of research.

They didn't see the bottom part of the Chicago skyline for much of their journey because it was hidden by the curve of the earth. In fact what they were able to see is exactly what is predicted by the Globe model combining earth curvature and atmospheric refraction. That video was a complete "own goal" by Ron.
 
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I live on the ocean & yes I have tried this and the ships always come back into view when magnified.
Unless they have gone beyond the horizon, which apparently they never have in your case.
 
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I've seen this before many times. The surface of the earth appears curved when the earth horizon is in the lower 3rd of the frame. Every now and then the camera POV will dip down and the earth horizon suddenly completely flattens out. And the horizon even inverts the other way in a concave manner if the horizon line moves up to the top 3rd of the frame.



Are you sure you're seeing real curvature?

This one's pretty bad. If you look close you can see the fisheye distorting the landscape itself at the edges of the screen, but of course what gives it away is the fisheye curvature is seen in the very beginning when the balloon is still on the ground looking out at a parking lot.



Even aside from obvious fisheye lenses... at least some measure curvature is part of the nature of camera lenses generally.

Field Curvature, also known as “curvature of field” or “Petzval field curvature”, is a common optical problem that causes a flat object to appear sharp only in a certain part(s) of the frame, instead of being uniformly sharp across the frame. This happens due to the curved nature of optical elements, which project the image in a curved manner, rather than flat.
This is a short video from just before the balloon burst at 121,000 feet, but if you pause the video and step through frame by frame {using "." and "," keys, you can find multiple frames where the horizon passes through the centre of view, at which point a straight line will remain a straight line regardless of whether it is horizontal, diagonal or vertical, and it is clear that the horizon curves downward at each end
 
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