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Mark 14:12 — And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?
Luke 22:7 — Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.
Luke 22:8-13 — And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat. And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare? And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in. And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready. And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Mark 14:13-16 — And he sendeth forth two of his disciples, and saith unto them, Go ye into the city, and there shall meet you a man bearing a pitcher of water: follow him. And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the passover with my disciples? And he will shew you a large upper room furnished and prepared: there make ready for us. And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the passover.
Matthew 26:17-19 — Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover? And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples. And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.
What you're saying here is not clear. I can only assume you are referencing something to do with what you've already posted concerning the last supper being eaten at the beginning of the 14th when the calendar date changed at sunset on the 13th. But please clarify.
It should also be said that on the strength of "they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover" (John 18:28), it is concluded by many, including yourself, that it was the passover in John's gospel. But for some unfathomable reason, the strength of all the passages quoted above seem to have no relevance.
If you actually read what I wrote in the previous post, Edersheim gives a great breakdown of that passage.
This would mean Jesus as killed on Nissan 15. That is clearly wrong. But, it goes on to say, "when the Passover must be killed" THAT is Nissan 14. So Mark 14:12 is not internally consistent. The Synoptics have a problem which John 19:14 addresses.Mark 14:12 — And the first day of unleavened bread, w
This is what the chabad citation addresses - see below. Jews then and now referred to Nissan 14 as 'Passover', due to the Paschal Lamb being slaughtered then. So, interpreted this way, the sequence of events do not conflict with John 19:14.Luke 22:8-13 — And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover,
The Last Supper was eaten at the beginning of Nissan 14, which is the evening of what was Nissan 13 calendar day. Christ was killed the afternoon of Nissan 14, the Day of Preparation (of the Passover). I get from this that the Day of Preparation - Nissan 14 - prepared us, the Faithful, for a new reality. A loving God and all that Christianity entails and the ability to join with Him via Holy Communion.you are referencing something to do with what you've already posted concerning the last supper being eaten at the beginning of the 14th when the calendar date changed at sunset on the 13th.
I do not see a conflict here. See my first response in this comment."they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover" (John 18:28), it is concluded by many, including yourself, that it was the passover in John's gospel.
Note the title of the chabad article. This is a quote:
"So what is this “Passover” on the 14th? It is not the Festival of Matzahs, since that only begins that evening (since the Jewish days begin at nightfall). Rather, it is the Passover offering, which was slaughtered on the 14th and eaten that night—the 15th—together with matzah at the onset of the Festival of Matzahs.
The Name Change
Oddly, although the weeklong celebration is consistently called the Festival of Matzahs in the Torah, it has come to be known as Pesach, or Passover, in common parlance and even in our liturgy." As I stated several times, this resolves several 'conflicts' in conforming to John's statement. The unresolved one would be Mark 14:12, first part of it. At least I cannot resolve it.
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