FBI Authorized Use of Deadly Force During Mar-a-Lago Raid

[Pommer]

As I said, you can’t have it both ways; is unprecedented AND standard procedure. Claims of Trump wrong doing are false. If you cannot see the law fare tactic to interfere with the 2024 election, not all have eyes to see.

Your false dilemma is charming, in its way, but yes, it can be both standard-procedure and “unprecedented”.

 

[Bradskii]

I am pointing out the false argument. Big difference.

President Trump has the authority not the Deep State. They are attempting to do to him what they did to General Flynn, entrap him in a process crime with no underlying crime having been committed. Doubling down on this corruption of power by calling it "standard procedure" is the propaganda that I see through for what it is. And I will NOT adopt the language of my enemy.

We learned last week this abuse of power extended to the Deep State authorizing itself to use deadly force in execution of a warrant agains the President of the United States guarded by the Secret Service. Only a fool would hold themselves to the standard of the law those corrupted by power invent while exempting themselves.

The history of this is criminalizing political disputes. If you do not see this is maximizing violence, look again.

Thanks for putting the phrase 'Deep State' at the beginning of the post. Saved me some reading time...

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

Your false dilemma is charming, in its way, but yes, it can be both standard-procedure and “unprecedented”.

Dangerous can. ‘Can be’ does not mean is. And it ain’t.

Thanks for putting the phrase 'Deep State' at the beginning of the post. Saved me some reading time...

You’re welcome. Goethe said those who are most enslaved are those who falsely believe they are free.

Ever watch Star Wars? Palpatine talked about how the unelected bureaucrats are actually running the ship of state rather than elected representatives. Life imitating art.

 

[Bradskii]

Ever watch Star Wars? Palpatine talked about...

I get my political philosophy from other sources.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

I get my political philosophy from other sources.

Doesn't change the fact that the American people - with $32T in debt and $215 T in unfunded liabilities, decades of unstopped invasion at the southern border, war after war, our so-called representatives not even reading bills and approving more money to secure Israel and Ukraine's border - are not enjoying good governance.

The term is the Deep State or globalists or world wide Left using Cultural Marxism to shape a new and anti-God New World Order. This is why the Evangelicals voted in higher % for Trump and he got more votes than any POTUS ever seeking re-election. And why you should also.

 

[Pommer]

Dangerous can. ‘Can be’ does not mean is. And it ain’t.

Was the language in the MAL warrant “standard”?
Yes.
Was this warrant the first (unprecedented) served against a former President?
Yes.

Ever watch Star Wars? Palpatine talked about how the unelected bureaucrats are actually running the ship of state rather than elected representatives. Life imitating art.

Would you prefer the likes of Louie Gohmert and MTG devising standards for nuclear waste facilities?

 

[Bradskii]

The term is the Deep State or globalists or world wide Left using Cultural Marxism to shape a new and anti-God New World Order.

I'm really impressed that you got so much cliched far right fundamentalist political rhetoric into one short sentence. No, seriously. My bingo card is half full already.

 

[A2SG]

This is why the Evangelicals voted in higher % for Trump and he got more votes than any POTUS ever seeking re-election. And why you should also.

And yet...more Americans voted for his opponent. 81 million, as opposed to 74 million.

-- A2SG, go figure....

 

[Landon Caeli]

I'm just glad the Secret Service and the FBI didn't have a shootout against each other. That would have been pretty embarrassing.

 

[A2SG]

I'm just glad the Secret Service and the FBI didn't have a shootout against each other. That would have been pretty embarrassing.

Wasn't even a possibility. The FBI coordinated with the Secret Service beforehand.

-- A2SG, not that Trump was anywhere near the property at the time....

 

[Pommer]

Doesn't change the fact that the American people - with $32T in debt and $215 T in unfunded liabilities, decades of unstopped invasion at the southern border, war after war, our so-called representatives not even reading bills and approving more money to secure Israel and Ukraine's border - are not enjoying good governance.

The term is the Deep State or globalists or world wide Left using Cultural Marxism to shape a new and anti-God New World Order. This is why the Evangelicals voted in higher % for Trump and he got more votes than any POTUS ever seeking re-election. And why you should also.

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I gotta go with “Poe”.
Sorry.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

Was the language in the MAL warrant “standard”?
Yes.
Was this warrant the first (unprecedented) served against a former President?
Yes.

Words. Just words. Agents came to Trump with guns, authorized to use deadly force. Although the same words were used with Biden, no such threat to life was made.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

I'm really impressed that you got so much cliched far right fundamentalist political rhetoric into one short sentence. No, seriously. My bingo card is half full already.

You should be impressed. The truth is simple and can fit into one sentence. Lies require more words to cover the truth.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

And yet...more Americans voted for his opponent. 81 million, as opposed to 74 million.

-- A2SG, go figure....

No way, not before the polls closed at 9 PM. That election was stolen and everyone with half a brain knows it.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

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I gotta go with “Poe”.
Sorry.

I don't know what this means.

 

[Bradskii]

The truth is simple and can fit into one sentence.

If you need to use simplistic, trite, cliched far-right fundamentalist political rhetoric in explaining what you consider to be the truth, then you cast immediate doubt on your position and are already behind the proverbial 8 ball. There are better ways of presenting your position (literally any other way would be better).

Are you unaware of that? Is it just easier for you to use bumper sticker comments? Force of habit? Are you just preaching to the choir? Because you must know that you are not convincing anyone with language like that. Maybe you don't have any other options (although I really doubt that). So why you choose that option has me puzzled.

 

[A2SG]

No way, not before the polls closed at 9 PM. That election was stolen and everyone with half a brain knows it.

If you have evidence those totals, which have been verified and certified in all 50 states, are inaccurate, then by all means, present it. Trump tried to contest them over 60 times in court and failed to do so.

Maybe you have the proof he lacks.

-- A2SG, though, you'd probably need only half a brain to buy his narrative....

 

[essentialsaltes]

Words. Just words. Agents came to Trump with guns

Agents came to Mar a Lago with guns. As they do for all search warrants. Trump wasn't there, and the FBI knew he wasn't there.

Although the same words were used with Biden, no such threat to life was made.

How can it be the same and yet different? The only 'threat' was the standard verbiage used in all FBI implementations of search warrants, including both of these.

 

[Soldier of Christ1516]

Agents came to Mar a Lago with guns. As they do for all search warrants.

Check your facts. They did not go to Biden's residence with guns.

Trump wasn't there

And this is relevant how? Guess what? Trump has the right to visit his own property any time.

How can it be the same and yet different?

Laps on ground already covered.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Check your facts. They did not go to Biden's residence with guns.

Wanna bet?

Do you think the FBI goes *anywhere* without guns?

And this is relevant how? Guess what? Trump has the right to visit his own property any time.

It's relevant because there was no threat to Trump during the execution of the search warrant because Trump was not at Mar-a-lago and the FBI knew that. If it was an assassination squad they did it wrong by going where the "target" wasn't.