You've misunderstood. I definitely wasn't suggesting that it was a Christian idea. How you read that into what I was saying, I'll never know.
I just seen the part where I was talking about how polititians are cultivating identity politics and division. Can you ellaborate.
Have you ever read Federalist Papers 10 and 51 ?
Not really, something to do with ratifying the US Constitution but not familar with the details.
You're right to cite some of the problematic things you do, but all of these things didn't just start recently. As for all of this stuff you're trying to educate me on about American, Women's, Queer and Race Studies, all of these were part and parcel of my studies in my Master's degree. So, you're preaching to the choir.
Lol I know but I am also talking to the unconverted, and I don't mean Christianity. There are many who don't realise this. As I think it was Megan Kelly who said the only way to stop the woke ideology is to educate people on exactly what it entails, how it developed within the in academia and mainstream society.
But let's face some facts: Christians have caused problems in the America(s), not only for indigenous peoples but also for each other, ever since Columbus set foot on these soils. Some of what we are experiencing today in just the U.S. alone has come out of what has been transpiring in ideological and intercultural conflict for the last 500 years.
I agree, its been one form of ideology over another reacting to the wrongs each does which has gradually become more polarised now to the point of violence. But people are also throwing the baby out with the bath water in reacting and rejecting those truths the west was built on despite the wrong they did in exploiting others. Just like people reject the Christianity due to the percieved wrongs the church did.
That is why I say we need to temper any ideological position with the facts and lived reality. It is the Christian truths that align with reality that need to be recognised. They don't just stand because they were Christian beliefs but also universal truths and facts of how we live and experience the world.
For example though Colonisers and the church may have dispossesed people which is wrong they also brought truths about humanity, where some were practicing barbaric beliefs and behaviours. Or brough better standards of health and education that they benefit from today.
Moreover, it's not as if the U.S. has been some Idyllic Christian nation and then stopped being so. In fact, no nation on earth in the past 2,000 years has ever been an idyllic Christian political entity and we all need to stop talking as if there ever has been such a thing. There hasn't.
I agree and I don't intend to life the US up as a perfect nation that represented everyone. Christianity spread differently throughout the west. But it was that freedom within the west that allowed this to happen. Its the same freedom that has eventually allowed society to move away from Christianity. This is not found in most other cultures.
Many Islander nations became Christian and lived a more spiritual belief which has permeated into the west and they are a good expression of Christianity in that they live close to Christs teachings. That was the result of the gospel being taken to other lands.
I am not really talking about western Christian culture and the growth of the church from the time of Christ as any particular national expression. But the Christian principles and Truths that were allowed to flourish within western culture from the time of Christ. That is not really a individual culture but the true church of Christ that happens to align most with western culture. But its reality can be seen anywhere in the world and doesn't have any particular culture or political idea attached.
But if you want to fight the spirit of Anti-Christ, please carry on. I don't have any qualms about that.
Thats an interesting way to put it. Perhaps that is done with the spirit of Christ. If Christ is Truth then those truths must be known, we can known them and use them to live by. But those same truths are becoming more hated in the west.
