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Facts To Prove The Theory Of Evolution

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Then you really are not alive

My heart is beating, I am breathing, my blood is flowing, I am typing these responses to you. I even went to the dentist today. I am alive, and I am not a machine.

To compare the human body to a machine is an analogy, but that does not mean they are the same thing.
 
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Would you like to test that?

I'm sure you wouldn't.

But in case you would, take two million people, go out into the Sinai peninsula and live there forty years.

Make sure the elite desert dwellers want you gone.

We'll see who's ignoranter.
 
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Would you like to test that?

I'm sure you wouldn't.

But in case you would, take two million people, go out into the Sinai peninsula and live there forty years.

Make sure the elite desert dwellers want you gone.

We'll see who's ignoranter.

You really don't get why people are (accurately) using the word ignorant and the context is.

As an example, I'd definitely call the ancient Celts and Romans ignorant for sure, along with anyone from the Bronze Age. Because it's the correct term to use.
 
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Would you like to test that?

I'm sure you wouldn't.

But in case you would, take two million people, go out into the Sinai peninsula and live there forty years.

Make sure the elite desert dwellers want you gone.

We'll see who's ignoranter.
"Ignorant" is only an insult to those who refuse to learn.
 
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You really don't get why people are (accurately) using the word ignorant and the context is.

As an example, I'd definitely call the ancient Celts and Romans ignorant for sure, along with anyone from the Bronze Age. Because it's the correct term to use.

Take as many goats as needed, and take all that scientific knowledge you have in your head with you.

And while you're busy not doing it, consider this:

Who's more ignorant?

The Jews in the wilderness back then?

Or the scientists today who can't find any evidence, and can't even tell me how they got there?

(Except for one poster, who mentioned some phantom dust storm.)
 
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Take as many goats as needed, and take all that scientific knowledge you have in your head with you.

And while you're busy not doing it, consider this:

Who's more ignorant?

The Jews in the wilderness, or the scientists today who can't find any evidence, and can't even tell me how they got there?

Yeah, you really do not have clue what you're arguing against in the slightest.
 
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My heart is beating, I am breathing, my blood is flowing, I am typing these responses to you. I even went to the dentist today. I am alive, and I am not a machine.

To compare the human body to a machine is an analogy, but that does not mean they are the same thing.
Your neurons have elaborate mechanisms for generating electrical signals based on the flow of ions across their plasma membranes. That assist in you having the ability to respond to a post.
 
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"Ignorant" is only an insult to those who refuse to learn.

What was it they refused to learn?

I was once told that, six months after they were taken into captivity in Babylon, they were teaching Babylonian science and customs to the Babylonians in their universities.
 
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Your neurons have elaborate mechanisms for generating electrical signals based on the flow of ions across their plasma membranes. That assist in you having the ability to respond to a post.

And I am still a being of flesh and blood governed by the rules of biology. By those simple facts, I and you and all the other humans are not machines.
 
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What was it they refused to learn?

I was once told that, six months after they were taken into captivity in Babylon, they were teaching Babylonian science and customs to the Babylonians in their universities.
By then they weren't wandering nomads any more.
 
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And I am still a being of flesh and blood governed by the rules of biology. By those simple facts, I and you and all the other humans are not machines.
Your body is a biological mechanism thus a machine.
 
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Your body is a biological mechanism thus a machine.

In the most simplistic technical sense, yes. But we are also biological organisms, which puts us quite a bit different to machines.

Now, you were saying that gold has something to do with evolution. Show us exactly how, in the human body, with no reference to electronics or machining, gold is important to our evolution and thus, to use your own words, 'so it could help keep the spark that's in you and assist with joints.' along with how 'We are always eating it.'.
 
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Were there ever any religious leaders who did not seek to silence or to kill Jesus and/or His followers/disciples ?
Yes, clearly.
Likewise there are some thought to be or have a label scientist, who do seek what is truth, what is right and good , even though they are opposed by the system of this world everyone works in.
Jesus Reveals all this, and is the most important of all in everyone's life, either as their Savior, or their Judge.

I don't care about Jesus. He is not relevant to this discussion. This is not the sub-forum for your preaching.
 
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In the most simplistic technical sense, yes. But we are also biological organisms, which puts us quite a bit different to machines.

Now, you were saying that gold has something to do with evolution. Show us exactly how, in the human body, with no reference to electronics or machining, gold is important to our evolution and thus, to use your own words, 'so it could help keep the spark that's in you and assist with joints.' along with how 'We are always eating it.'.
How many different types of material can be used in construction a machine?. Gold helps in lubricant process of joints
 
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Your neurons have elaborate mechanisms for generating electrical signals based on the flow of ions across their plasma membranes. That assist in you having the ability to respond to a post.
Go check a reference on the ions in the synapse transmission. You won't find any gold.
 
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I guess you don’t accept germ theory or buoyancy theory?
Why would you guess that? I examine different things on a case by case basis.
And let’s be honest: you haven’t critically analysed it because you clearly have not even the most basic undergrad understand of the topic as shown by your ill conceived comments in this thread. So how can you claim ‘scientist’ have also done so?
I didn't claim to have critically analysed it myself. But I am literate, and can read what others have done.
 
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It's got nothing to do at all with being 'hip'. Describing conversing with you as playing chess with a pigeon is accurate. You've been shown multiple times the evidence for evolution and you just go "Nope" and act like you've won some big game.
No, disagreeing with you on how good the evidence is, or even what constitutes evidence, is not "pooping on a board". I will admit in hindsight that I probably shouldn't have made the wisecrack that "my work here is done", or should have at least put a smiley face after it to indicate that I wasn't really serious. :)
 
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