Democrat Schumer promotes election interference in an American Ally

[The IbanezerScrooge]

And how do you feel about the topic of the thread?

I think the post you quoted pretty much sums up my feelings on the topic of the thread.

 

[Always in His Presence]

“Fight back”≠annihilate all members of the attackers

Like carpet bombing Germany?

 

[Always in His Presence]

An addendum - We know that Schumer will never face backlash for his rhetoric and thank goodness there are enough Republicans there to quell his strong arming Israel. This thought ran through my mind this morning.

There is a large Democratic voter base that is Jewish. Schumer's actions are being viewed in a number of places as pro Palestinian (same as pro Hamas) - how many Jewish voters will no longer support the Democrats, since the Democrats are no longer supporting Israel?

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

An addendum - We know that Schumer will never face backlash for his rhetoric and thank goodness there are enough Republicans there to quell his strong arming Israel. This thought ran through my mind this morning.

There is a large Democratic voter base that is Jewish. Schumer's actions are being viewed in a number of places as pro Palestinian (same as pro Hamas) - how many Jewish voters will no longer support the Democrats, since the Democrats are no longer supporting Israel?

14.

 

[rambot]

If Schumer’s country was being attacked by terrorist he’d want to fight back, not negotiate.

Of course terrorists aren't attacking Israel really anymore. Now Israel is laying absolute waste to Gaza.

I'm sure it makes you feel great that Israel is "getting back at the terrorists", but a lot of people would argue that they are well and completely past a point of retribution and vindictiveness. There is ample evidence that, yet again, Israel is performing another land grab; plenty of examples of Israeli's trying to sell property in the "Holy Land"; of Palestinians getting forced out of their homes.


If Mexicans came into your own and kicked you out of your home, removing all your belongings and dumping them in front of your house, I feel confident you'd have a problem with that. If Mexicans desecrated the graveyard where your grandparents were buried, you'd have a problem with that.
If Mexicans used your uncle as a human shield, you'd have a problem with that.

https://imgur.com/rSKax3U

But strangely, there's ZERO problem when Israel does it.

 

[iluvatar5150]

An addendum - We know that Schumer will never face backlash for his rhetoric and thank goodness there are enough Republicans there to quell his strong arming Israel. This thought ran through my mind this morning.

There is a large Democratic voter base that is Jewish. Schumer's actions are being viewed in a number of places as pro Palestinian (same as pro Hamas) - how many Jewish voters will no longer support the Democrats, since the Democrats are no longer supporting Israel?

Is Israel so weak that scolding amounts to “strong arming”? Widdew Bibi can’t handew a widdew fingew wag?

 

[One God and Father of All]

Of course terrorists aren't attacking Israel really anymore. Now Israel is laying absolute waste to Gaza.

I'm sure it makes you feel great that Israel is "getting back at the terrorists", but a lot of people would argue that they are well and completely past a point of retribution and vindictiveness. There is ample evidence that, yet again, Israel is performing another land grab; plenty of examples of Israeli's trying to sell property in the "Holy Land"; of Palestinians getting forced out of their homes.


If Mexicans came into your own and kicked you out of your home, removing all your belongings and dumping them in front of your house, I feel confident you'd have a problem with that. If Mexicans desecrated the graveyard where your grandparents were buried, you'd have a problem with that.
If Mexicans used your uncle as a human shield, you'd have a problem with that.

https://imgur.com/rSKax3U

But strangely, there's ZERO problem when Israel does it.

Because Israel and any informed person knows the attack on Israel goes far beyond just the terrorist group Hamas. Hamas attacked from Palestinian occupied territory. They hide there. Hamas has no concern whether or not any Palestinian gets killed. Israel lives with the constant treat of her evil neighbors funded mostly by the likes of Iran.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Is Israel so weak that scolding amounts to “strong arming”? Widdew Bibi can’t handew a widdew fingew wag?

Does you um's beweive dat withholding funding and calling for the Head of the country to be weplced a widdew fingew wag?

 

[rambot]

Because Israel and any informed person knows the attack on Israel goes far beyond just the terrorist group Hamas.

For sure it does. For sure. There's the paranoia. There's the jingoism. There's the mistreatment. There's stealing their land.

Hamas attacked from Palestinian occupied territory. They hide there. Hamas has no concern whether or not any Palestinian gets killed. Israel lives with the constant treat of her evil neighbors funded mostly by the likes of Iran.

Yeah. Real threat they live with.
How many Israelis have lost their homes?
How many Israeli children are currently starvin?

Get outta here with that nonsense. The current state does not have Israel suffering. IT has Israel laying waste to a people.

 

[One God and Father of All]

For sure it does. For sure. There's the paranoia. There's the jingoism. There's the mistreatment. There's stealing their land.



Yeah. Real threat they live with.
How many Israelis have lost their homes?
How many Israeli children are currently starvin?

Get outta here with that nonsense. The current state does not have Israel suffering. IT has Israel laying waste to a people.

You are aware that the Palestinian people can do nothing themselves to fight against and eliminate the evil Hamas terrorist group that lives among them?

 

[One God and Father of All]

A left-wing democrat would feel insulted if we call Hamas an evil gutless coward monster terrorist group. The left-wing says “no, they’re human beings”.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Does you um's beweive dat withholding funding and calling for the Head of the country to be weplced a widdew fingew wag?

Where did Schumer threaten to withhold funding? Where did he make the funding contingent on Netanyahu's being removed? That wasn't claimed anywhere in your article, which said that funding was held up in the House (i.e. not the Senate).

 

[rambot]

I wonder how much of the humanitarian aid being sent to the Palestinian people will be stolen by the gutless, heartless Hamas terrorist group to feed themselves. If Hamas cared anything for the starving people of Palestine they wouldn't hide among them shooting rockets at Israel Like pansy-ass cowards.

It's strange to me that you have such a hate on for Hamas when it is Israel that is withholding support and doing pretty awful things.

In fact, you neve really address anything terrible Israel has done, despite my inclusion in my posts.

 

[BCP1928]

Does not Israel have a right to the land God has given them? When they were permitted by God to return to their own land (after the holocaust) they have been hated and threatened by those who basically want to annihilated them or else worship the god of Islam. Israel simply wants the land God has given them. If you understand the Scripture, you’ll see that eventually Israel will have her land. It just a matter of when. It’s a promise from the God who keeps His promises.

Good for Him. In the meantime it has nothing to do with our policy toward the secular state of Israel.

 

[DJWhalen]

I tried to look up the war between Israel and Palestine. It is brand Hamas as a good guy and Israel as a devil bent on revenge. I know that is a lie and I can't find the truth.

 

[Fantine]

Oh, please can we just once stay on the topic of the thread. Please.

You claim he is the Israeli people's choice. Not.

 

[Hazelelponi]

These threads are emotionally difficult for me to argue in, I have a history here that's personal.

The last thread I sat in and argued through ended up fully deleted and my every post gone forever, and that makes me feel like even trying is a waste of time.

However as a former Muslim and someone who is not a Zionist even though I am now Christian I have to say, Israel has no choice but to respond, and they have no choice but to continue responding until Hamas is adequately decimated.

That's what best. Period.

People will die. Palestinian people who are innocent will die.

Hamas makes human shields of women, children, and the elderly in order to parade dead bodies in front of the media. It's propaganda.

Every single dead body is on the head of Hamas.

And Hamas won't stop until they are dead. They've already said such more times than I can count.

It's their job. It's what they exist for.

Time to stop it or it will never end. Let Israel do what they have to do to stop Hamas.

Then we will talk peace. Not before because there's no peace with Hamas.

 

[BCP1928]

These threads are emotionally difficult for me to argue in, I have a history here that's personal.

The last thread I sat in and argued through ended up fully deleted and my every post gone forever, and that makes me feel like even trying is a waste of time.

However I have to say, as a former Muslim with ties to the region in question, and someone who is not a Zionist even though I am now Christian, Israel has no choice but to respond, and they have no choice but to continue until Hamas is adequately decimated.

That's what best. Period.

People will die. Palestinian people who are innocent will die.

Hamas makes human shields of women, children, and the elderly in order to parade dead bodies in front of the media. It's propaganda.

Every single dead body really is on the head of Hamas.

And Hamas won't stop until they are dead. They've already said such more times than I can count.

It's their job. It's what they exist for.

Time to stop it or it will never end. Let Israel do what they have to do to stop Hamas.

Then we will talk peace. Not before because there's no peace with Hamas.

Yes, no doubt that is something you feel strongly about. However, the question before us is rather different. We pay Isreal 3.8 billion dollars a year to support our policy in the Middle East. If their policy diverges from ours, are we still obliged to pay them?

 

[Hazelelponi]

MSN

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WASHINGTON—In a sign of growing U.S. pressure on Israel over the war in Gaza, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “has lost his way” and called for Israeli elections aimed at choosing a new government.​

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Netanyahu is “allowing his political survival to take precedence over the best interests of Israel,” Schumer said in a speech on the Senate floor Thursday. He said Israel “cannot hope to succeed as a pariah opposed by the rest of the world.”​

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Netanyahu - is the duly elected Prime Minister of Israel, and American Alli - American Congressmembers have no business calling for the over throw of a government regardless of method. He has no right or authority to call for an election, regardless of the reason. This is interference in another countries government.

What audacity to believe he knows what 'is best interest" for another nation. Using your position and funding to pressure another nation to do what you want is worse than quid pro quo and he should be censured and made to apologize to Israel.

Chuck Schumer needs censured.

I want to see Congress censure him even if Biden doesn't. This is beyond ridiculous.

Biden did the same thing in Ukraine. Told the Ukrainian's to fire that prosecutor or he'd withhold congressionally approved funding.

Now the administration along with Congress is telling Israel to replace a democratically elected President with someone else or we will withhold funding?

Yeah... We need every single Republican member to take a very loud stance here against Schumer.... Not acceptable. Israel was attacked.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Yes, I remember reading that too. In the meantime it has nothing to do with our policy toward the secular state of Israel.

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