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Donald Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury

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I don’t know if you can claim the 10th amendment when you’re using federal funding
I believe Bragg has offered to explain how the $5,000 of federal funding was used.
 
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Yeah but they got $2 million in federal funds for 2023

If they did, it has nothing to do with the current Trump investigation.

“No expenses incurred relating to this matter have been paid from funds that the Office receives through federal grant programs,” Bragg’s general counsel Leslie B. Dubeck wrote in a letter dated March 31, 2023.

Bragg’s predecessor Cyrus Vance spent roughly $5,000 on expenses incurred relating to the investigation of Donald J. Trump or the Trump Organization between October 2019 and August 2021, according to a letter from the DA’s office.
 
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And what was that $2 M? How does it relate to the investigation of Donald Trump?
The issue was does the 10th amendment apply when the entity is receiving federal funding. I don’t know.
 
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The issue was does the 10th amendment apply when the entity is receiving federal funding. I don’t know.

I've never heard the "10th amendment" defense for federal investigation before today.
 
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I've never heard the "10th amendment" defense for federal investigation before today.
Perhaps because it is unusual for Congress to try to oversee a state investigation/prosecution?
 
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Perhaps because it is unusual for Congress to try to oversee a state investigation/prosecution?
Congress is empowered to obtain pertinent testimony and documents through investigations into nearly any matter.3 Included within the scope of the power is the authority to initiate investigations, hold hearings, gather testimony or documents from witnesses, and, in situations where either a government or private party is not forthcoming, compel compliance with congressional requests through the issuance and enforcement of subpoenas. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-7-1/ALDE_00013657/
 
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Congress is empowered to obtain pertinent testimony and documents through investigations into nearly any matter.3 Included within the scope of the power is the authority to initiate investigations, hold hearings, gather testimony or documents from witnesses, and, in situations where either a government or private party is not forthcoming, compel compliance with congressional requests through the issuance and enforcement of subpoenas. https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-7-1/ALDE_00013657/
"Although the power to investigate is necessarily broad it is not unlimited . . . . We have made it clear [ ] that Congress is not invested with a ''general’ power to inquire into private affairs.’ The subject of any inquiry always must be one ‘on which legislation could be had.’") (citations omitted). For a discussion of other constitutional limitations on congressional investigations see CRS Report RL30240, Congressional Oversight Manual, by Christopher M. Davis et al.
 
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"Although the power to investigate is necessarily broad it is not unlimited . . . . We have made it clear [ ] that Congress is not invested with a ''general’ power to inquire into private affairs.’ The subject of any inquiry always must be one ‘on which legislation could be had.’") (citations omitted). For a discussion of other constitutional limitations on congressional investigations see CRS Report RL30240, Congressional Oversight Manual, by Christopher M. Davis et al.
I could think of legislation that could come from looking into this case, but I’m not an expert on the powers of Congress. You can argue, oops, discuss this with someone else
 
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Thank God we have a pillow salesman that loves his country and seeks truth.

Mike Lindell's firm told to pay $5 million in 'Prove Mike Wrong' election-fraud challenge


MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a "cyber symposium" he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year's U.S. election.

He called the challenge "Prove Mike Wrong."

On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone had.

In their 23-page decision, the arbitrators said Zeidman proved that Lindell's material "unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data." They directed Lindell's firm to pay Zeidman within 30 days.
 
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Mike Lindell's firm told to pay $5 million in 'Prove Mike Wrong' election-fraud challenge


MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a "cyber symposium" he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year's U.S. election.

He called the challenge "Prove Mike Wrong."

On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone had.

In their 23-page decision, the arbitrators said Zeidman proved that Lindell's material "unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data." They directed Lindell's firm to pay Zeidman within 30 days.
 
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Mike Lindell's firm told to pay $5 million in 'Prove Mike Wrong' election-fraud challenge


MyPillow founder and prominent election denier Mike Lindell made a bold offer ahead of a "cyber symposium" he held in August 2021 in South Dakota: He claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he would pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the previous year's U.S. election.

He called the challenge "Prove Mike Wrong."

On Wednesday, a private arbitration panel ruled that someone had.

In their 23-page decision, the arbitrators said Zeidman proved that Lindell's material "unequivocally did not reflect November 2020 election data." They directed Lindell's firm to pay Zeidman within 30 days.
Off topic for sure.
 
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A stupid attempt to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power following an election is still an attempt to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power following an election

Egos over freedom: Proud Boys trial proof MAGA will pay any price to avoid admitting they were wrong​

One does start to wonder why these fools went to trial instead of trying to plead down, especially after the Oath Keepers made the same play and ended up being sent to prison. If they were trying to be martyrs, they'd own their behavior openly, instead of playing weaselly word games on the stand. No, it appears the Proud Boys, like the Oath Keepers before them, went this route for a simple reason: Their egos will not let them admit that it was a stupid thing, following Trump to the point of rioting at the Capitol. They'd rather risk hefty prison sentences than say out loud that the liberals were right all along.
 
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Exclusive: Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot​

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg will charge Trump with falsification of business records, a source told Yahoo News.

it is believed to relate to the payment of $130,000 in hush money to inappropriate content star Stormy Daniels during the closing weeks of the 2016 election to conceal an extramarital encounter with Trump.

I sense a pattern.

Trump lawyers under fire for stonewalling prosecutors in Stormy Daniels hush money case

Prosecutors working out of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office are asking the judge in the Stormy Daniels hush money case to intercede and force Donald Trump's lawyers to provide a list of their expert witnesses after stonewalling them for months.

"Prosecutors say Trump’s lawyers ignored two months of emails starting in August, refusing to respond to their repeated requests that the defense team identify who in the world they’re planning to call at trial," the report states.
 
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I sense a pattern.

Trump lawyers under fire for stonewalling prosecutors in Stormy Daniels hush money case

Prosecutors working out of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg's office are asking the judge in the Stormy Daniels hush money case to intercede and force Donald Trump's lawyers to provide a list of their expert witnesses after stonewalling them for months.

"Prosecutors say Trump’s lawyers ignored two months of emails starting in August, refusing to respond to their repeated requests that the defense team identify who in the world they’re planning to call at trial," the report states.
They can try all they want to keep him off the ballot in 2024... But.... IMO he's going to be President # 45 and 47 dispite their attempts.
 
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