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Gee, thanks for the heads up. So luckily no civilians have been killed then. And no children dead.
If you want to excuse yourself from what you might determine as being 'fruitful dialogue' in that we discuss the death toll and how to stop it increasing then that is your call.
This is the major problem with this thread. Anyone who dares stands up and argues 'the price is too much, the death toll is too great' isn't met with a rebuttal of the argument itself. They are simply denigrated as a shill for Hamas. As an enemy of Israel. As someone who would equate the nation of Israel with a bunch of terrorists.
It's quoted in #738 but you wrote "I answered it in #738" This means you think you wrote #738 but you did not write #738. I think you need to revise your basic English comprehension.
Some more basic English comprehension:
Here Eisenhower describes his opposition before the bomb was dropped. Are you alleging that Eisenhower was lying?
"Defending itself" has morphed into the unnecessary mass murder of as many Gazans as possible while keeping the support of the US.
Do you know nothing of history? There never was any Palestine for a start. The region was controlled by the Roman empire, by the Muslims, then the Ottoman empire. The Ottomans lost control at the end of WW1. It was then administered by the British. The UN approved a plan for two states, Israel and Palestine. Israel declared independence in May 1948. It was completely legal. So no, Israel did not get a pass. They had the right to be where they were. The original territory they were supposed to enjoy was much reduced, courtesy of British betrayal and double dealing. FYI, I'm English so I'm not biased.
Fine. What do you suggest? I've asked every Israel critic this question. No one has a clue how to resolve the problem. Tell me how Israel defeats Hamas without Gazan civilian casualties? Hamas cares less about Gazans than Israel does. Why pick on Israel? Russia has been killing Ukraine's civilians for over 18 months. Where is the outrage? Syria? Uses chemical weapons on its own citizens. Somehow Israel is held to an impossible standard while the rest of the world has little to say about other conflicts.
You are living in an alternate reality. I support Israel's right to defend itself. You do not. No, I can't conceive of a better option for Israel. If I did, I'd be on the phone to Netyanahu. But to condemn Israel and not have an alternative is ridiculous. That's the Greta Thunburg approach. "Just stop it". The real world does not work like that.
Higher does not mean impossible. And that is what is demanded of Israel.
So, you want Israel to go to your option 2 but don't have a clue as to what that could be? Thank you for giving us a fine example of the difference between rant-rave criticism and constructive criticism.
Please stop your theatrics and just answer an honest question.
I provided a summary on how Israel can defeat Hamas in this post a few weeks ago. Below are some higlights:
There will always be a risk of civilian casualties when fighting a terrorist group, as is to be expected. However, Israel's relentless bombardment of Gaza and the staggering death toll as a result has gone far beyond what is reasonable.
There has been plenty to say about other conflicts. Here are a couple of threads where members of this forum have criticized Russia and Syria.
