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The law doesn't specify whether she's teaching it or not. So if she's not teaching it? Is it still the loving thing to do to kill her, demonstrating that you love her as you love yourself?
It doesn't really matter as witchcraft is pure evil. Is it good to allow sin to exist? Will other people follow her example? Yes, as evil is popular in our world.
No. I'm saying that they cause misery and suffering to all around them that's one the reasons God told the Israelites to drive the Canaanites out of Canaan . It's not loving to prolong suffering and sin. God told the Israelites to completely wipe out the Amalekites for that same reason. Look at all the pain and suffering they went through for not doing as He told them to, They have gone through centuries of suffering because they disobeyed God. It's why obeying God in all things is so important.
We don't live in a theocracy any more so that argument is moot. But that doesn't mean the effects of her example isn't going to cause untold suffering to those who know her.
Okay... you wouldn't actually kill her, but would killing her show how much you love her?
Do you deliberately misunderstand what I say? I have said, repeatedly, that the law to kill those who messed with devils were to protect others from doing the same.
No.
This is the post of mine that you were originally responding to in this particular conversation
That would be the entire law written on our hearts, then, not just the 10. And I think you'll agree with that, but it's different from what the OP was saying, I believe.
But in regards to the entire law teaching us how to love our neighbor, do we kill the teenage girl living next door who is into witchcraft to show our love for her?
Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 22:18 - New American Standard Bible
“You shall not allow a sorceress to live.www.biblegateway.com
Here is one of my posts.No.
This is the post of mine that you were originally responding to in this particular conversation
So... I'm hearing that it doesn't show your love for the teenage girl, but it does show your love for those around her?
Does this instruction show how to love God and our neighbor?
Bible Gateway passage: Numbers 15:38-40 - New American Standard Bible
“Speak to the sons of Israel and tell them that they shall make for themselves tassels on the corners of their garments throughout their generations, and that they shall put on the tassel of each corner a violet thread. It shall be a tassel for you to look at and remember all the commandments of...
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That post doesn't give a clear Yes or No answer to the question.Here is one of my posts.
The Ten vs the 603
Is it loving to allow the girl next door to teach others to practice witchcraft and so destroy the lives of others? The law doesn't specify whether she's teaching it or not. So if she's not teaching it? Is it still the loving thing to do to kill her, demonstrating that you love her as you love...
Again, I don't see a clear Yes or No.Here is another of them.
The Ten vs the 603
Is it loving to allow the girl next door to teach others to practice witchcraft and so destroy the lives of others? The law doesn't specify whether she's teaching it or not. So if she's not teaching it? Is it still the loving thing to do to kill her, demonstrating that you love her as you love...
And that post, you asked me a question.Here is another.
The Ten vs the 603
Hi Him, Nice post. I do think God's Word here is the same as God's law. Hey there SabbathBlessings, Never said any different, for the law is contained in the word. We are instructed to be doers of the word and not just hearers. Then a direct comparison is made between someone who is not a...
I understand there is a common theme. Can you give a Yes or No answer to this question: "...do we kill the teenage girl living next door who is into witchcraft to show our love for her?"
That would be the entire law written on our hearts, then, not just the 10. And I think you'll agree with that, but it's different from what the OP was saying, I believe.
But in regards to the entire law teaching us how to love our neighbor, do we kill the teenage girl living next door who is into witchcraft to show our love for her?
Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 22:18 - New American Standard Bible
“You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
Here's the passenger I'm asking about:
I gave you my answer. It was never about killing the girl. You want to get me to say I want to kill the girl. I don't as we live under a civil government that does not enforce the Mosaic laws. God had specific reasons for requiring the Israelites to kill those involved in idolatry and witchcraft and it was so they wouldn't fall into the same trap the nations of Canaan fell into and they could be His witness to the world. They failed miserably and those days are long gone, With those days went the requirement to kill everyone involved in those practices. Actually you're one of the biggest legalists around when you desire to force people who keep the Sabbath because they love God to say they want to kill people when those days are long since gone. You would most likely accuse Sabbath keepers of desiring to kill non Sabbath keepers if you could bully a Sabbath keeper into saying they wanted to kill people who broke a Mosaic law that had the death penalty attached to it.
Not true. What I want for you is to see that there is no reasonable way to divide up the entire law.
Exactly, those days are long gone.
No, that's my point. Those days are long gone.
What you experience as bullying I see as a reasonable attempt to get you to give a straight answer. Why not just answer at the beginning what you did now? That is, No, that law does not teach us how to love today.
You and I will never agree. We see the Bible through completely different paradigms. You see object lesson laws as binding on anyone who keeps the Sabbath, The purpose of that law was not that everyone down through time needs a constant symbolic law to remember God's law. Demonstrate from scripture where the law about tassels was written on the tables of stone. That's what it takes to be part of the moral law.
Probably not true, but how do you decide what is an "object lesson law"?
How do you know that?
They weren't written on stone.
Are the ten commandments, then, the only moral laws?
First I would have to know how you're defining "ceremonial law", since it's not a term found in the scriptures.
Possibly.
No.
Or at least a really long time.
God gave them, so the source is the same.
Yes.Probably not true, but how do you decide what is an "object lesson law"?
How do you know that?
They weren't written on stone.
Are the ten commandments, then, the only moral laws?
First I would have to know how you're defining "ceremonial law", since it's not a term found in the scriptures.
Possibly.
No.
Or at least a really long time.
God gave them, so the source is the same.
Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 27:34 - New American Standard Bible
These are the commandments which the LORD commanded Moses for the sons of Israel on Mount Sinai.www.biblegateway.com
Moses didn't author them, but he did write them down.
Big picture, are you saying that the Ten Commandments are the only permanent Commandments in the law?
Well, that's definitely one place where we see it differently
