Nebraska governor signs order narrowly defining sex as that assigned at birth

[Ana the Ist]

The way the transsexual issue is being handle by the experts makes me question medical research and practice in other ways.

As it should. I was in my late teens or early 20s when I learned oxycontin was getting handed out for everything from toothaches to paper cuts....and it was basically heroin. This happened for years belore a class action suit was finally brought.

The Sacklers, the primary stakeholder, made an estimated 12 billion off oxy. They settled for 6 billion. It was at this point the pharmaceutical industry realized that fraud could be immensely profitable.

So whenever something doesn't smell quite right....consider just how much they stand to profit. Trans medication is for life....and anyone regretful of their choice is very often suicidal.

It's made it clear to me that medical research and practice is not only being bought but is also subject to being led by ideologies.

The FDA hasn't approved puberty blockers for this purpose nor HRT for children so young....so I blame Doctors and parents.

A significant number of the parents seem to be suffering from Munchasen-by-proxy and rampant narcissistic tendencies.

Is this really new? No, not really. Looking at the history of science on race tells me that. But it seems to have gotten so much more squirrelly these days.

I think the DSM was changed with genuinely good intentions. Unfortunately, I don't think the full ramifications were considered and it's likely an uphill battle to change it back.

 

[HARK!]

I'm not snipping anything. The studies that had the information I was looking for relating to assaults in bathrooms on transgender people only covered 1-year timeframes. When comparing data sets, you compare like to like - if one data set covers a 1-year timeframe, then you try to find a comparison data set that also covers a 1-year timeframe. If you have a study that looks at the number of bathroom assaults committed against transgender people in their lifetimes, then we can compare that to the lifetime sexual assault numbers from the CDC for cisgender people.

The snippet of data that you provided (if what was presented is even accurate) doesn't come anywhere close to the mean average reported by the CDC.

Let's review.

(this compares to 15% of cisgender girls and 4% of cisgender boys who report being sexually assaulted).

Sexual violence starts early. More than 4 in 5 female rape survivors reported that they were first raped before age 25 and almost half were first raped as a minor (i.e., before age 18).

Your source purports stats on sexual assault. The CDC provides stats for rape, which is but a subcategory of sexual assault.

Agenda much?

 

[HARK!]

*sarcasm*

Criminals will not perpetrate a felony if they could be charged with a misdemeanor in the process.

Criminals will not have the opportunity to rape a woman in a public place; if they are already locked up for a misdemeanor.

See how that works?

 

[Pommer]

Criminals will not have the opportunity to rape a woman in a public place; if they are already locked up for a misdemeanor.

See how that works?

A “public place” that usually only has one “exit”.
So a criminal would have to be both violent & stupid.
How does society protect itself against the stupidly violent?

 

[HARK!]

A “public place” that usually only has one “exit”.
So a criminal would have to be both violent & stupid.

Yet these crimes continue.

How does society protect itself against the stupidly violent?

Lock them up.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Your source purports stats on sexual assault. The CDC provides stats for rape, which is but a subcategory of sexual assault.

Agenda much?

I think you're quibbling over relatively minor distinctions here - those numbers were just there as a point of comparison and weren't the main focus of what I was trying to say. The point is that transgender youths are at a significant risk for sexual assault, and that risk climbs when they are forced to use the bathrooms that correspond to the gender they were assigned at birth. This is a problem, no?

Combine that with the fact that you've only managed to find one rather shaky example of a transgender person (or person posing as transgender) using their (supposed) access to a bathroom to assault a woman and it seems pretty clear that transgender people are at a greater risk from the general population than women are from transgender people.

 

[HARK!]

The main point was that 25% of transgender youths report being sexually assaulted in the past year,

Maybe they should stop dressing up like girls, and pinching boys in the high knee, as they stand at the urinals.

Frankly I don't believe that there are enough boys out there who want to sexually assault 25% of transsexuals, unless they are homosexuals themselves.

 

[Pommer]

Yet these crimes continue.

So sez you.

Lock them up.

Got stats?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Maybe they should stop dressing up like girls, and pinching boys in the high knee, as they stand at the urinals.

Non-sequitur. Also offensive. Do you also think that women who were raped while wearing skimpy clothing deserved it?

Frankly I don't believe that there are enough boys out there who want to sexually assault 25% of transsexuals, unless they are homosexuals themselves.

Rape and sexual assault are more often about power and control than they are about sexual attraction. Also, there aren't that many transgender teens - it doesn't take a lot of people interested in sexually assaulting them for a significant percentage to be sexually assaulted. Regardless, your personal incredulity is irrelevant.

 

[HARK!]

So sez you.

A woman is recovering in a hospital and an alleged assailant is under arrest after she was brutally beaten, raped and then robbed in a mall bathroom stall.

Woman goes to restroom in Mississippi mall, man waiting inside beats and rapes her

A woman is recovering in a hospital and an alleged assailant is under arrest after she was brutally beaten, raped and then robbed in a mall bathroom stall. Police in Gulfport, Miss., said Andrew Ma…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[HARK!]

Non-sequitur. Also offensive. Do you also think that women who were raped while wearing skimpy clothing deserved it?

You left out the other factor, the physical part.

Rape and sexual assault are more often about power and control than they are about sexual attraction. Also, there aren't that many transgender teens - it doesn't take a lot of people interested in sexually assaulting them for a significant percentage to be sexually assaulted. Regardless, your personal incredulity is irrelevant.

Non-sequitur

How about we review the credibility of those purported reports.

How many of those purported 25% were actually convicted of a crime?

How do we even know that it is 25% of transgenders who reported? Is there a registry for transgenders?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

A woman is recovering in a hospital and an alleged assailant is under arrest after she was brutally beaten, raped and then robbed in a mall bathroom stall.

Woman goes to restroom in Mississippi mall, man waiting inside beats and rapes her

A woman is recovering in a hospital and an alleged assailant is under arrest after she was brutally beaten, raped and then robbed in a mall bathroom stall. Police in Gulfport, Miss., said Andrew Ma…

www.nydailynews.com

Was this person transgender, or did they pretend to be transgender to gain access?

 

[HARK!]

Was this person transgender, or did they pretend to be transgender to gain access?

What is the difference if a man rapes a woman in a restroom, or if a man pretending to be a woman rapes a woman in a restroom?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

You left out the other factor, the physical part.

Your imaginings of what transgender people do at urinals are irrelevant.

How many of those purported 25% were actually convicted of a crime?

How many of the purported 25% of minor girls who are raped are actually convicted of a crime?

How do we even know that it is 25% of transgenders who reported? Is there a registry for transgenders?

From this survey: 2018 LGBTQ Youth Report

 

[HARK!]

I think you're quibbling over relatively minor distinctions here

I don't think that it's minor at all. The stats that you presented don't represent a true expression of the big picture. I know that you understand that the more samples that are taken; the more accurate the conclusions that are drawn from the data.

 

[rjs330]

They're going to wonder about that whatever some governor proclaims. But you seem to think that some transgender person who for some reason is thinking about assaulting a woman in a restroom is going to decide against it because the governor has said they are not allowed to be there.

Some of you guys are so naive it's hard to credit.

I didn't say some trans-person. I'm saying a person who claims to be trans.

Yes a person who may want to assault a woman will be deterred if he knows there is a higher likelihood of him being caught or foiled. If men aren't supposed to be in a woman's bathroom then it absolutely will keep some of them away.

It appears that there is a serious ignorance of the criminal.mind. What do you think is most likely. A criminal would rather have easy access to commit a crime or would the rather have mare difficult access to commit a crime? If two objects are of equal value, are criminals more likely to steal something that is not locked up or something that is? Why?

 

[HARK!]

How many of the purported 25% rapes of minors are actually convicted of a crime?

What is the ratio of mental disorders between straight and LGBT minors?

 

[HARK!]

From this survey: 2018 LGBTQ Youth Report

HRC Foundation and the University of Connecticut released the largest-of-its-kind survey ever of more than 12,000 LGBTQ

HRC's LGBTQ+ Youth Report

The results of HRC’s 2022 Youth Survey reveal persistent, serious challenges for LGBTQ+ youth, continuing trends observed in the 2017 study.

www.hrc.org

Moving the goalposts?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

What is the difference if a man rapes a woman in a restroom, or if a man pretending to be a woman rapes a woman in a restroom?

Well, if he just walked in as a man and no one noticed, I highly doubt that a law banning trans people from using their preferred bathroom would have stopped him.

 

[rjs330]

rjs330 said:
If men aren't allowed in the women's restroom women are going to be wondering why a man is in the women's restroom don't you think?

The 3 or so times I found myself in the restroom with what appeared to be a man I did not wonder why nor did I presume to ask them why. It was evident they came in to use the facilities and they left. I would say a very high percentage of people who go into a restroom is to use the facilities...granted a few women go in to check themselves in the mirror, but the vast majority go into a restroom to use the facilities.

I bet you would change your mind if you or someone you knew was assaulted by a man in a restroom.

Do you also walk down dark alleys alone at night?