How Old is the Earth?

[Aaron112]

Well I always thought the eye witness to the event would know best.

Yes! For Real! Totally Awesome!

Just like a potter knows his clay best (if he is any good)....

 

[Aaron112]

The Earth is about as old as God is.

The Father Elohim and Yahshua, Yeshua, Jesus
both shared eternal glory without beginning long (forever without measure)
before the world, the universe, sun, moon, stars
or man
was created.

 

[Aaron112]

And I'm wondering how wide spread that lack of knowledge about the earth's age is.

Very very very very very very very very ... ... .... x 100000 .....

Babies, infants, little children are so easy to brainwash....
Yet parents put them in a 'class' with someone
whose first words may be "millions of years ago....." and the child has no defense ... the washing has begun....

 

[dwb001]

Yes! For Real! Totally Awesome!

Just like a potter knows his clay best (if he is any good)....

I always thought... what did Adam ask God when they were walking in the Garden?
The same questions we ask today...
Who am I?
Where did I come from?
Who are You?
What can I eat?

Otherwise the Creation story is just a fiction.
And if you start your holy book with a fiction... then you are just like every other religion out there.

 

[Aaron112]

I always thought... what did Adam ask God when they were walking in the Garden?
The same questions we ask today...
Who am I?
Where did I come from?
Who are You?
What can I eat?

The Creator made everything very simple and clear to Adam,
and
remember Adam was wise and knowledgeable enough (way way way beyond anyone known on earth today or for thousands of years probably)
he names all the animals (and remembers them all).....

 

[partinobodycular]

6k years.

Why would an omniscient, omnipotent God create a world full of irrational people, and then ask those very same people to make a rational choice to believe in Him?

If you want people to make a rational choice then don't make them irrational... duh

 

[Aaron112]

Why would an omniscient, omnipotent God create a world full of irrational people, and then ask those very same people to make a rational choice to believe in Him?

Actually, man's "reason", "rational-ness" so to speak, is one of if not the greatest enemy to overcome.

 

[Aaron112]

If you want people to make a rational choice then don't make them irrational... duh

God chose , deliberately, the foolish of the world to put the wise (rational) to shame.

By faith in Jesus, of course, not a rational decision in this world

 

[sjastro]

So a person trained in the same field, taught the same texts, lectured by the same profs.... somehow agree on the paper that validates their claims.
OK.

I see a conspiracy theory in the making.
The theory of chondrule formation comes from astrophysics, the testing of meteorites is performed by planetary and earth scientists using radiometric techniques developed by nuclear physicists, hence there are a number of different disciplines involved.

Then there is the “amazing coincidence” of two independent dating techniques producing similar results for the age of the earth.
By claiming the earth is 6000 years old opens up more “amazing coincidences” such as the dating of Neolithic pots where thermoluminescence dating when the pot was fired and a revolutionary new method of radiocarbon dating of residue in the pot both indicate ages of around 8000 years.

Accurate compound-specific 14C dating of archaeological pottery vessels - Nature

Using lipid residues absorbed in potsherds, the ages of pottery from various archaeological sites are determined and validated using sites for which the dates are well known from other methods.

www.nature.com

Since this is a science forum it’s up to you to provide the physical evidence of a 6000 year old earth.
The Bible is not evidence with the added complication a large percentage of Christians do not accept the Bible as an indication of a 6000 year old earth.

 

[partinobodycular]

Actually, man's "reason", "rational-ness" so to speak, is one of if not the greatest enemy to overcome.

And yet you would no doubt argue that your belief in God is perfectly rational... so why is your "rational-ness" fine and my "rational-ness" isn't?

Seems a tad hypocritical to me.

 

[Aaron112]

God chose , deliberately, the foolish of the world to put the wise (rational) to shame.

By faith in Jesus, of course, not a rational decision in this world

And yet you would no doubt argue that your belief in God is perfectly rational...

Already made clear it is not.

 

[partinobodycular]

Already made clear it is not.

So are you admitting that your faith in Jesus is irrational?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would an omniscient, omnipotent God create a world full of irrational people,

He didn't.

He created a world "full" of two rational people.

 

[partinobodycular]

He created a world "full" of two rational people.

So was the choice that Adam and Eve made rational or irrational?

 

[AV1611VET]

So was the choice that Adam and Eve made rational or irrational?

Both.

Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

They made a rational decision to do an irrational act.

 

[dlamberth]

Well I always thought the eye witness to the event would know best.

I'm of the mind that God's own creation knows best, which gives a 4.5 billion year age of the Earth.

 

[partinobodycular]

They made a rational decision to do an irrational act.

So you're admitting that they made the rational choice. To have chosen to do otherwise would've been irrational.

But God Himself predestined them to make that choice when He chose to make them rational.

Hence Adam and Eve were doomed to failure by God Himself.

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm of the mind that God's own creation knows best, which gives a 4.5 billion year age of the Earth.

But it doesn't tell you how long it's been in existence, does it?

 

[AV1611VET]

So you're admitting that they made the rational choice.

They made A rational choice.

You can choose rational and do right.

You can choose rational and do wrong.

You can choose irrational and do right.

You can choose irrational and do wrong.

To have chosen to do otherwise would've been irrational.

To have chosen to do otherwise would have been obedient.

But God Himself predestined them to make that choice when He chose to make them rational.

Nope.

They had freewill.

Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

And since Peter made it clear that it is not God's will that any should perish ...

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

... the fact that atheists exist is proof that we have freewill.

Hence Adam and Eve were doomed to failure by God Himself.

Hence you're wrong.

God always gives us a choice.

But when Eve looked at things empirically, she made a rational decision and did something irrational.

 

[AV1611VET]