Families gather at libraries to pray, sing ‘God Bless America’ and join in Kirk Cameron’s story hour

[Wings like Eagles]

I'm glad to see our tax dollars funding a venue to bring a fine Christian message to the public.

I thought that there would be those who would enjoy hearing this good news. Wouldn't you agree?

Agreed - thank you for sharing it!

 

[USincognito]

I don't see the how what you posted refutes the statements made in the video.

Oh well.

Maybe you can break that down for me...well...I mean...unless you're just here to troll the thread.

Did you read the ALA statement or not? If if is somehow unsatisfying with regard to whatever Kirk is claiming, I don't know what to tell you. I think the ALA statement is pretty clear. They want public use of meeting rooms to be inclusive and, as an organization, don't consider haranguing children about "wokeness" and "CRT bad" to be inclusive. If Kirk just wanted to pray, sing some songs and read his book, that would be fine. His need to inject culture war politics into story time is what makes it problematic.

Here's the Christian Post article I quoted above if you need more context.

Kirk Cameron demands investigation of American Library Association for religious discrimination

Kirk Cameron and his publisher, Brave Books, are calling on the federal government to investigate the American Library Association as the Christian author and actor claims the association advised ...

www.christianpost.com

 

[WolfGate]

Removed because I confused who the post was about

 

[Pommer]

Oh well.

Did you read the ALA statement or not? If if is somehow unsatisfying with regard to whatever Kirk is claiming, I don't know what to tell you. I think the ALA statement is pretty clear. They want public use of meeting rooms to be inclusive and, as an organization, don't consider haranguing children about "wokeness" and "CRT bad" to be inclusive. If Kirk just wanted to pray, sing some songs and read his book, that would be fine. His need to inject culture war politics into story time is what makes it problematic.

Here's the Christian Post article I quoted above if you need more context.

Kirk Cameron demands investigation of American Library Association for religious discrimination

Kirk Cameron and his publisher, Brave Books, are calling on the federal government to investigate the American Library Association as the Christian author and actor claims the association advised ...

www.christianpost.com

The Christianpost article sounds a lot like: “These people don’t want to to read this book that I wrote!”
Less of an actual “complaint” and more of a (not so) veiled attempt to gin up controversy that end up selling more of the author’s books.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

Looks like the authors of deceit and confusion always have something to say.

Alabama library caves after Brave Books and Kirk Cameron stand up to its attempt to deny Americans a venue​

MSN

 

[Mayzoo]

Good for them and well within their rights. More parental involvement with children is excellent.

 

[HARK!]

Did you read the ALA statement or not?

I did. You see, I'm not the one making an argument from ignorance.

Oh well.

Thanks for making it clear that you had no intention of addressing my post.

Happy Trolling!

 

[HARK!]

Good for them and well within their rights. More parental involvement with children is excellent.

It's good to see Christians reach out to the greater community to teach youth solid Christian values.

Yah bless their work.

 

[returntosender]

Why would I want to watch a known prevaricator making stuff up when I could get the story straight from the ALA?

Those are libelous words in God's book also. I hope you can back them up.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Do they?

Yes, they serve all patrons.

 

[durangodawood]

What would make you believe so?

I was asking. I didnt say I believed one way or the other.

But to your question: evidence would make me believe.

 

[HARK!]

Yes, they serve all patrons.

ORLY?


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the news every night and now you come up
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with something that talks about a
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recognized sin and how to overcome it
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how to reject it it's an uplifting story
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um it's too offensive to make the public
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library and then you try to organize one
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day it's August 5th in which others
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across the country could go into their
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public library and have a reading of
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such a book it doesn't have to be yours
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would it be yours and really what could
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be any book you want any book of virtue
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and this is what's so offended the
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American libraries Association that as
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you point out the Ala director has
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decided that that they need to stop you
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and here's just a little bit of how she
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suggested it be done sought seven we're
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seeing groups that Secrets seek the
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censor lgbtqa materials or disparage or
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silence lgbtqa Library users
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um exploit the open nature of a public
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library to advance their agendas for
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example right now Brave books and Kirk
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Cameron are conducting a campaign to
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take over libraries on August 5th the
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First Amendment does not require the
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library to even offer meeting room
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spaces so this in regard to the Kirk
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Cameron thing you are not obligated to
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offer public meeting room spaces or
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invite the public in to use the library
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you can have a make a priority for
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Library sponsored programs and what if
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your library decided to offer a whole
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host of programs and it's meeting room
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on August 5th making it unavailable for
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the public that's another option for you
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that is unbelievable what if what if
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your library happened to have other
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programs making it unavailable for them
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to come to your library so this is all
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about keeping control of the libraries
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in the hands of librarians and the way
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you do that is by making up things that
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aren't there to block families from
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reserving a reading room for their own
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kids oh my gosh isn't this wonderful
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Megan this is so great she just brought
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up the First Amendment saying it doesn't
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require you to offer meeting spaces I
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have a copy of the Constitution right
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here the First Amendment actually says
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Congress shall make no law respecting
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the establishment of religion or
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prohibiting the free exercise of that
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religion or abridging the freedom of
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speech or of the press or the right of
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the people to peaceably assemble
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that's precisely what she's recommending
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local libraries do is block people from
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peacefully assembling in a public
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library to speak about and exercise
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their sincerely held values about loving
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God and loving their community
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she said it's like pretty much every
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piece of the First Amendment
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and what's so great about this is it it
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pulls back the curtain and it shows you
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that the great wizard
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that is got all these signs and wonders
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and powers and all these things that is
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scaring everybody and making them think
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he's so power is is really
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a group of people who are breaking their
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own laws I mean their stated purpose at
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the Ala is to protect the rights of all
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people to have access to information
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regardless of their views that's what
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the drag queen stories are all about
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except of course that's precisely what
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they're not doing when it comes to
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people like you or me or millions of
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others to want to talk to the kids about
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faith hope and love so my question to
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the Ala is guys why all the hate I
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thought I thought this was supposed to
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be I thought I just learned the rule
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it's about diversity it's about Equity
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it's about inclusion why are you
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excluding us

 

[HARK!]

I was asking. I didnt say I believed one way or the other.

But to your question: evidence would make me believe.

Well if any evidence materializes; I feel confident that you'll be sure to let me know.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Fort Myers, FL. — Nearly twenty children gathered Saturday at their local library for story time hosted by a mother of two, who volunteered to organize a “See You at the Library” event sponsored by Brave Books and its Christian author Kirk Cameron.

The group of families at the Lake Regional Library in Fort Myers, Florida kicked off the story hour with a prayer, asking Jesus to protect children while they gave thanks for the freedom of speech. They closed their event by singing “God Bless America.”

During story time, they read Mr. Cameron’s book “Pride Comes Before the Fall” and spoke afterwards about not being prideful and helping others.

Families gather at libraries to pray, sing ‘God Bless America’ and join in Kirk Cameron’s story hour

Nearly 20 children gathered Saturday at their local library for story time hosted by a mother of two, who volunteered to organize a “See You at the Library” event sponsored by Brave Books and its Christian author Kirk Cameron.

www.washingtontimes.com

Ok…? And…?

I mean, I get that the Washington Times (thanks to its founding by a self-appointed Christian prophet and cult leader) skews to the right, but an article about a library hosting a public event with community interest seems a bit like writing an article about how amazing it is that the sun rose today.

 

[USincognito]

Those are libelous words in God's book also. I hope you can back them up.

Huh?

 

[USincognito]

So digging a little more I can see why the ALA might be ambivalent about Kirk after the stunt he pulled in Hendersonville, Tennessee back in February.
Kirk had set up what was going to be a nice story time with some kids at the Hendersonville Library

Hendersonville library director ousted; accused of 'unkind pushback' to Kirk Cameron event

After Kirk Cameron described "unkind pushback" at an event at the Hendersonville library, its director was fired after in a Sumner County Library Board vote.

www.tennessean.com

>> Emails obtained by the Tennessean indicates concern by Morales about how big the event was becoming.

“Our invitation was sincere to read a book during our story time,” Morales wrote in an email dated Feb. 22, to a Brave Books representative. “We guard that time because it is for small children and not adults. We work hard at not promoting any agendas left or right.” <<

That story time with the little kids evolved into Kirk bringing Duck Dynasty character Missy Robinson and anti-trans activist Riley Gaines. The activities were expanded from not just Kirk reading story time to the kids, but filming of promotional commercials including one where Gaines giving her anti-trans talking points (see the article above for a clip of the filming).

There was also a series of a bomb threats from a guy in Connecticut.

The crowd apparently would have overwhelmed the building resulting in children sitting in bookshelf aisles. The library had suggested moving the event to a larger venue like a church, but apparently the mayor wanted it held at the library (the library falls under the jurisdiction of the mayor).

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Libraries serve all patrons in their community. Is there something newsworthy about this you want to discuss?

I think the newsworthy part is that no crazed Antifa liberals showed up brandishing firearms, banging on the glass doors and threatening the people who chose to attend.

 

[returntosender]

Boy, someone sure has it in for him, sad.

 

[FireDragon76]

I dislike the use of religion and prayer as a publicity stunt to advance a political agenda. I don't like when conservative Christians or liberal Christians do it.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

I dislike the use of religion and prayer as a publicity stunt.

It absolutely is. You know that all of these people have a place to go to do this very thing pretty much anytime they want and would be welcomed with open arms and absolutely no one would give a care in the world. There are these big buildings with crosses on top on just about every street corner in America, but they need to use a public library? So, yeah, it's absolutely a stunt.