Kentucky’s ban on gender-transition care takes effect as federal judge lifts injunction

[Nithavela]

I think that Christian counseling would be a good start.

Do you have any evidence that christian counseling has a good track record in helping people with gender disphoria?

 

[HARK!]

Do you have any evidence that christian counseling has a good track record in helping people with gender disphoria?

I have known people who have been helped by Christian counseling. I have also seen much deep regret from some who have transitioned. Transitioning doesn't address the root problem, and it comes with severe complications.

 

[BPPLEE]

Do you have any evidence that christian counseling has a good track record in helping people with gender disphoria?

Do any of the treatments have a good track record? I don’t know, maybe you do

 

[Pommer]

Interesting. Well no matter where the quote originated, it's a fitting description.

I see that you’ve left it as attributed to Thomas Jefferson though.
That appears to be spurious.

 

[Belk]

Everything.

Do tell.

 

[Pommer]

Everything.

If paying taxes=“paying for some boy to put breast implants in”, then congratulations on “owning a torpedo” on of our fine fighting ships!

 

[Pommer]

I have known people who have been helped by Christian counseling. I have also seen much deep regret from some who have transitioned. Transitioning doesn't address the root problem, and it comes with severe complications.

The 97% who would be happier and better off have to suffer for the 3% to not make a mistake: my how suddenly you’ve opted to help the minority in this situation.

 

[Nithavela]

I have known people who have been helped by Christian counseling. I have also seen much deep regret from some who have transitioned. Transitioning doesn't address the root problem, and it comes with severe complications.

So no evidence. Okay.

 

[Nithavela]

Do any of the treatments have a good track record? I don’t know, maybe you do

AFAIK the only thing that helps is gender-affirming care.

Does it help all the time? No. But no treatment helps with anything 100 % of the time.

 

[Nithavela]

The 97% who would be happier and better off have to suffer for the 3% to not make a mistake: my how suddenly you’ve opted to help the minority in this situation.

Where do you get these numbers from?

 

[KCfromNC]

So identifying as a gender that you were not assigned at birth is a medical condition? I believe it is as it is treated with medication and sometimes surgery

I'm no sure why you bothered asking me if you already had an answer. Except maybe as a tactic to avoid addressing the content of the post yours were responding to.

 

[KCfromNC]

I think that the government should watch how the people's money is being spent. The fact that the doctors have an incentive to spend as much of the people's money on their services as possible, deserves scrutiny.

Although interesting that there's support on the far right for a big government surveillance state monitoring private individuals' spending habits, this seems off topic for the thread.

 

[KCfromNC]

I asked you. Do you support hormone treatments, puberty blockers, and surgeries for minors. Why or why not.

The attempt to make this about me personally is noted.

As far as medical professionals go there are many who do not support those things for minors. And the GOP is paying attention to those professionals.

I guess, in the sense that they've now used big government intervention to force the opinions of this group onto all doctors in the state. Weird they'd need to go that route if the reasoning behind these folk's opinions held any weight.

Medical and science professionals who have looked at the research done by activists and saw all the faulty research and realized how screwed up it was.

This isn't as universally true as claimed.

Not only that but also discovered the coverups done by some of the clinics regarding the research and findings. So just tossing out the words "medical professionals" doesn't end the conversation anymore.

It does when the GOP wants a nanny state to make the decision for doctors and patients.

 

[KCfromNC]

I understand Starbucks pays for it for their employees. They could just get a job there

Just not in states where random GOP legislators have decided they know better than those people and their doctors.

 

[KCfromNC]

Because @Bradskii is arguing on another thread

It's against the rules to call out posters for actions in other threads like this.
And also seems like I'm being asked to explain what they wrote there as if it had anything to do with what I posted in this thread.

So, again, seems like an attempt to divert from the discussion rather than add to it.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's against the rules to call out posters for actions in other threads like this.
And also seems like I'm being asked to explain what they wrote there as if it had anything to do with what I posted in this thread.

So, again, seems like an attempt to divert from the discussion rather than add to it.

Okay I’ll delete the post. I didn’t know it was against the rules

 

[BPPLEE]

Just not in states where random GOP legislators have decided they know better than those people and their doctors.

My daughter in law works with another nurse who works part time at Starbucks and they paid for his gender reassignment surgery

 

[Bradskii]

Because @Bradskii is arguing on another thread that it is not a medical condition so school officials can hide the fact that children are transitioning from their parents. He says it’s a psychological condition not a medical issue.
I say it’s a medical condition because it’s treated with medication and sometimes surgery

But Bradskii gave you the (specifically American) definition of medication and it's not applicable, especially when it comes to a pupil's interaction with a school. Hence it is not, by definition, a medical condition in that regard. And in the US it would need to be a medical emergency with imminent danger to the student for an automatic contact with parents to be made. You know this.

And, good grief, you are still pushing this line that schools are 'hiding' information, implicating them in some underhand secrecy. When they are OBLIGED to not release the info should the student request it. And the school is not in any way involved with medication or surgery.

Yet again, this a problem that parents need to address. For them, and you, to attempt to blame schools is nonsensical.

 

[BPPLEE]

But Bradskii gave you the (specifically American) definition of medication and it's not applicable, especially when it comes to a pupil's interaction with a school. Hence it is not, by definition, a medical condition in that regard. And in the US it would need to be a medical emergency with imminent danger to the student for an automatic contact with parents to be made. You know this.

And, good grief, you are still pushing this line that schools are 'hiding' information, implicating them in some underhand secrecy. When they are OBLIGED to not release the info should the student request it. And the school is not in any way involved with medication or surgery.

Yet again, this a problem that parents need to address. For them, and you, to attempt to blame schools is nonsensical.

I understand it’s against the rules to post someone’s name in another thread. I deleted the post I didn’t know it was against the rules.
Yes schools are being required to hide information about their children being transsexuals from their parents. You have explained why. I’m just pointing out that it’s happening
And it’s seems being transgender is a medical condition when it’s convenient and something else when it’s not

 

[Bradskii]

I understand it’s against the rules to post someone’s name in another thread. I deleted the post I didn’t know it was against the rules.
Yes schools are being required to hide information about their children being transsexuals from their parents. You have explained why. I’m just pointing out that it’s happening
And it’s seems being transgender is a medical condition when it’s convenient and something else when it’s not

It's not a medical condition when a pupil discusses the matter with a school as no medication is given. Again, this has been explained to you. If someone has surgery then there are obviously medical procedures involved. This is equally obviously not relevant to discussions with schools.