Non believers on a Christian forum

[returntosender]

I was hoping not to see any striking out, alas. It's early yet. The most outspoken of the non believers have not replied yet and maybe they won't. A question i should have asked of all of you is...how long have you been a non believer? You don't have to answer if you don't want to. Another question would be Do any of you have a want to be a Christian?

 

[Occams Barber]

1. Me A
2. EesOne who denies the existence of God, or of a supreme intelligent being.
3. A godless man; one who disregards his duty to God.
4. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.

The Century Dictionary.

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Ob, i detect an attitude in your responses. Sorry if i hit a nerve.

That response was directed back to Ordinary Christian - not to you.

As a general observation, I suspect that many Christians could not explain what much of this standard Christian jargon means. It tends to be used as a code for "I'm a Christian like you" or as a cover for saying nothing while appearing to be saying something.

OB

 

[Occams Barber]

I was hoping not to see any striking out, alas. It's early yet. The most outspoken of the non believers have not replied yet and maybe they won't. A question i should have asked of all of you is...how long have you been a non believer? You don't have to answer if you don't want to. Another question would be Do any of you have a want to be a Christian?

1.75 years
2. I can't think of any reason why I would want to be a Christian and multiple reasons why I would not.

OB

 

[d taylor]

In eleven years on CF I have yet to see anyone come close to proving Creation.

Evolution is not an atheist plot. It was identified by Christians (Darwin and Wallace) and is accepted as science by many Christians and Christian denominations.

OB

So if creation does not exist and nothing has been created, why do thing exist.

 

[Occams Barber]

So if creation does not exist and nothing has been created, why do thing exist.

If by 'things' you mean everything I have no idea why it exists

OB

 

[Larniavc]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

So that I don’t live in an echo chamber. There are simply loads of opinions that I never get exposed to in the other sites I visit.

 

[Servus]

That response was directed back to Ordinary Christian - not to you.

As a general observation, I suspect that many Christians could not explain what much of this standard Christian jargon means. It tends to be used as a code for "I'm a Christian like you" or as a cover for saying nothing while appearing to be saying something.

OB

This time I am responding directly to you. I find it absurd to expect anything else other than Christian jargon from Christians. Now when I'm on non-religious forums, I don't use Christian jargon. But here I do, whether or not I'm replying to an unbeliever, because this is a Christian forum and therefore I most certainly am not going to hold back.

 

[Larniavc]

I corrected it. He spent a lot of time asking questions to weaken your stand on God and Jesus

How could asking questions so that? It’s the answers, surely?

 

[Larniavc]

how long have you been a non believer?

I don’t I ever really believed in the claims of the Bible. I’m nearly 50.

 

[Occams Barber]

This time I am responding directly to you. I find it absurd to expect anything else other than Christian jargon from Christians. Now when I'm on non-religious forums, I don't use Christian jargon. But here I do, whether or not I'm replying to an unbeliever, because this is a Christian forum and therefore I most certainly am not going to hold back.

Fine

It's all about separating wheat from tares to me.

OB

 

[returntosender]

I was a little offended by the definition when it said "a godless man".

How could asking questions so that? It’s the answers, surely?

He was always wanting you wrong. He would set you up for a fall. He was a lot like hammy. Trying to trap. Like he would ask, Does God ever change his mind or did God change in the nt? Then he would pounce on your answer causing doubt in your beliefs. I knew it was a cat and mouse game with him so i very seldom answered. Mostly he was a pariah. A trouble maker but i liked his personality.

 

[returntosender]

Fine

It's all about separating wheat from tares to me.

OB

That's christian jargon, lol.

 

[Servus]

Fine

It's all about separating wheat from tares to me.

OB

Not for me. I talk to everyone the same here. Lots of the time I do this on my phone where I can't even readily see what someone's status is.

 

[returntosender]

If by 'things' you mean everything I have no idea why it exists

OB

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So if creation does not exist and nothing has been created, why do thing exist.

This is not the thread for challenges. They should have the freedom to speak without being questioned. Feel free to start another thread if you wish to question them

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I'm just trying to understand. Not a judgement on any of you. Why would you want to be in a Christian forum? It would be nice if you're on the fence and you might fall over to our side. Hopefully to learn about Jesus. I've talked to a few and they made no bones about their hatred, one was converting people to his side. What about you?

Non Christians have limited access but I am glad they pop into threads because they are the " harvest". We are called to spread the " Good News". Blessings.

"The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. Therefore, pray to the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest." (Matthew 9:37-38)

 

[returntosender]

Thanks for your candidness. I'm glad i didn't upset any of you. Of course we all hope you find God before you move on. In the mean time i hope your lives are happy.

 

[returntosender]

So if creation does not exist and nothing has been created, why do thing exist.

Maybe someone should start a thread for questions and answers for christians and non believers..,.(all you ever wanted to know.....):

 

[Page Poet]

I don't believe in God. I don't need to believe. I know God for certain; God is as close to me as my hands and eyes. I don't believe I have hands and eyes I know I have them. God is as real and as certain. We are born with this knowledge and the ability to communicate with God. All those that don't know these facts do is shake off the blinders and blocks that have been placed before them.

 

[essentialsaltes]

This question comes up every once in a while.

A lot of different reasons. Originally, I was mostly involved in creation/evolution topics, but I've broadened out with interests in ethics/morality and politics. It's also particularly interesting to see the people that agree with me on evolution but disagree with me on politics (and vice versa).

I come to see news stories that I might not have seen otherwise, hear opinions I might not have otherwise heard.

I get to keep an eye on what the 'evangelical Trump voter' has on his mind.

I try to encourage people to use better 'information hygiene', to avoid fake news.

Another reason is so I can dispel myths and prejudices about atheists that are held by some Christians who haven't had much experience with atheists (that they know of).

Christian: Atheists have horns on their heads!
me: We do not!
Christian: well, maybe atheists have only one horn on their heads
me: Victory!

 

[essentialsaltes]

A question i should have asked of all of you is...how long have you been a non believer?

I think always, at least since reaching the age of reason. As a child, maybe I was some sort of weak non-church-going American-style default Christian, but I didn't really know what that meant. About the age of 10 or 11 I clearly perceived that I didn't believe in any gods. And now it's several decades on from there.