Good Friday - beliefs.

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Was the fast of the firstborn practiced in the first century? I know of no source documenting this.

Yes, it was an ancient and widespread custom. It is in the Talmud...

 

[The Liturgist]

The Jews didn't celebrate it. The Romansnever heard of the name "Easter".

Indeed so, this is entirely correct.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Indeed I do, but Passover is a Feast of Israel, a sacrificial commemoration of the Exodus, with a lamb slaughtered and eaten in the night. Easter is none of those things.

Don't tell the Greeks that lol!!!

 

[BobRyan]

No it doesn't. Wine was served at Passover.

Passover begins earlier than the day of sacrifice by having all yeast removed from the house - that includes wine yeast. Only juice was served at Passover.

We know from ancient sources that preserving unfermented grape juice was common practice. The ancient Roman statesman, Cato, said:

If you wish to have must [grape juice] all year, put grape juice in an amphora and seal the cork with pitch; sink it in a fishpond. After thirty days take it out. It will be grape juice for a whole year (De Agri Cultura CXX).

Kosher Grape Juice: The Only Juice Allowed During Passover | Simply Healthy Vegan

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Was the wine that the disciples drank at the Last Supper fermented?

Was the Wine at the Last Supper Fermented? The wine that the disciples drank at the Last Supper was un-fermented grape Juice because during the Passover leaven or yeast was strictly forbidden as it was a

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"The wine that the disciples drank at the Last Supper was un-fermented grape Juice because during the Passover leaven or yeast was strictly forbidden as it was a symbol of sin. In the Old Testament, the Lord clearly instructed that the Passover bread be made without yeast. This is seen in the following passages:​

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“On the fourteenth day of the first month at twilight is the Lord’s Passover.And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to the Lord; seven days you must eat unleavened bread” (Leviticus 23:5-6).​

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“Then they shall eat the flesh on that night; roasted in fire, with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs they shall eat it” (Exodus 12:8).​

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And in the New Testament, the Lord symbolized leaven to wickedness and evil"​

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Don't tell the Greeks that lol!!!

Greek Orthodox people know that Easter Sunday is not Good Friday; it is on Good Friday that the Lord's crucifixion is commemorated.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Greek Orthodox people know that Easter Sunday is not Good Friday; it is on Good Friday that the Lord's crucifixion is commemorated.

I was talking about roasting and eating a lamb! The Greek Orthodox do that every year. You said: with a lamb slaughtered and eaten in the night. Easter is none of those things.

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

I was talking about roasting and eating a lamb! The Greek Orthodox do that every year. You said: with a lamb slaughtered and eaten in the night. Easter is none of those things.

In temple Judaism lambs were sacrificed and taken to be roasted and eaten on the night of their slaughter but easter is not on that day it is on the Sunday following, after the Sabbath.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

In temple Judaism lambs were sacrificed and taken to be roasted and eaten on the night of their slaughter but easter is not on that day it is on the Sunday following, after the Sabbath.

Oy Veh! LOL I KNOW THAT! I was making a joke...lighten up! Every Pascha, Greek Orthodox roast lambs in their backyards. It is quite the feast!

 

[Xeno.of.athens]

Oy Veh! LOL I KNOW THAT! I was making a joke

When making a joke it pays to say that is what you have done.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

Mr. Panos will explain "Greek Easter" when Jesus rose from the dead because Jesus died for Greek peopul sins. Christos Anesti!

And we have lamb with LEMON!

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

When making a joke it pays to say that is what you have done.

I thought it was obvious

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Mr. Panos will explain "Greek Easter" when Jesus rose from the dead because Jesus died for Greek peopul sins. Christos Anesti!

And we have lamb with LEMON!

LOL Spineykopita

 

[ralliann]

Indeed I do, but Passover is a Feast of Israel, a sacrificial commemoration of the Exodus, with a lamb slaughtered and eaten in the night. Easter is none of those things.

Also the Apostles keeping passover did not include Gentiles. It was illegal for Gentiles to keep Passover as the law commands.

 

[ralliann]

I agree they are two separate celebrations of separate events. But again metaphor comes into play. For it is also a "Passover" for Christ into his new state of being. But it does not have anything to do with the Passover of Exodus.

But Wikipedia is actually more than a single source. It is often a compilation of many sources.

Yes, and gentiles did not break the law in eating the Jewish Passover, like the Apostles did.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

LOL Spineykopita

I love going to our festival and ordering Θα ήθελα ένα Jy-ro και ένα mouse-kaka. (I would like a gyro and a moussaka). Ahhh, being a xeno can be so much fun

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Also the Apostles keeping passover did not include Gentiles. It was illegal for Gentiles to keep Passover as the law commands.

You could as long as you were circumcised (if a male of course)...

The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover: no foreigner is to eat of it; but every man’s slave purchased with money, after you have circumcised him, then he may eat of it. A sojourner or a hired servant shall not eat of it. (Exodus 12:43–45) But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it. The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.” (Exodus 12:48–49)

 

[ralliann]

You could as long as you were circumcised (if a male of course)...

That's what my post said. Gentiles could not eat the passover.

 

[Mockingbird0]

Yes, it was an ancient and widespread custom. It is in the Talmud...

Is it in the Mishnah?

 

[bbbbbbb]

You could as long as you were circumcised (if a male of course)...

The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover: no foreigner is to eat of it; but every man’s slave purchased with money, after you have circumcised him, then he may eat of it. A sojourner or a hired servant shall not eat of it. (Exodus 12:43–45) But if a stranger sojourns with you, and celebrates the Passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near to celebrate it; and he shall be like a native of the land. But no uncircumcised person may eat of it. The same law shall apply to the native as to the stranger who sojourns among you.” (Exodus 12:48–49)

I guess that probably omits all females.

 

[prodromos]

Mr. Panos will explain "Greek Easter" when Jesus rose from the dead because Jesus died for Greek peopul sins. Christos Anesti!

And we have lamb with LEMON!

He's drinking French Press coffee! Heretic!