At least 3 children and 3 adults killed in Nashville private Christian elementary school shooting; shooter killed by police

[BPPLEE]

At this point, I think it's more "we have no evidence of a problem with the school" rather than "we have evidence it was not a problem with the school". But given the earlier description of a 'manifesto', one would think the police would have more clarity about motive.

Why haven’t we seen this manifesto?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Daily Fail reports Hale's parents didn't accept his trans identity -- 'Audrey' changed clothes and became 'Aiden' when leaving the house.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Why haven’t we seen this manifesto?

The police haven't made this piece of evidence public.

 

[BPPLEE]

I can understand why you would assume that is what I mean. Those who resist any kind of gun regulation argue it's an infringement of their right to bear arms, hence my comment. No, I'm for gun regulation (note: I didn't say "take guns away") as well as other approaches, such as adequately dealing with mental health issues. Perhaps there are other approaches that need consideration. But , yes, without sliding down the mythic slippery slope of assuming gun regulation entails taking all guns away, we need stricter gun regulations.

I also think we need a cultural shift in how we think about guns. We have a culture that has an irrational reverence for guns, and violence in general. It's a weird fetish of sorts that is inordinate. It's not like we have a bunch of folks that love to hunt and have a desire to have the right tool for the job. We have a bunch of folks that love guns. They love guns so much that the thought of regulating them makes them angry, as if their secret fetish or a religious symbol were being denied them. Oh, they'll go on about how they need them to protect them from criminals or government overreach. But really, I think they just like the power of being able to kill someone. It makes them feel like God, powerful and indestructible. It really does seem to be a religious thing with them. A weird fetish that gives them power. In short, guns have become an idol, an object of worship.

Maybe for some but you are using a broad brush on people who want to preserve their 2nd amendment rights. What you say is true for some but not all

 

[Nithavela]

You do not know His Word. We are to judge righteously, I.e. not hypocritically. And true followers are to judge all things, because we have the mind of Christ.
I am grateful to serve an all merciful and all just God.
Please, focus your sympathy on the real victims and stop with the virtue signaling. Hale made her choices and no amount of sympathy will change her fate now.

What if she repented and accepted christ as her lord and saviour just before the police killed her?

 

[public hermit]

Maybe for some but you are using a broad brush on people who want to preserve their 2nd amendment rights. What you say is true for some but not all

Why do so many resist more regulation? Take those who have an inordinate love of guns out of the picture. Can we move forward with regulation now?

 

[MotoToTheMax]

At this point, I think it's more "we have no evidence of a problem with the school" rather than "we have evidence it was not a problem with the school". But given the earlier description of a 'manifesto', one would think the police would have more clarity about motive.

Good points. Your first point is something so easy to overlook. I still struggle with it.

 

[BPPLEE]

Why do so many resist more regulation? Take those who have an inordinate love of guns out of the picture. Can we move forward with regulation now?

It depends on what the regulations are. Remember criminals don’t obey the laws.

 

[BPPLEE]

What if she repented and accepted christ as her lord and saviour just before the police killed her?

What if I was on a ship and I didn’t take communion on Sunday and I was really worried about it but then we crossed the international date line!

 

[public hermit]

It depends on what the regulations are. Remember criminals don’t obey the laws.

Since some regulations could be acceptable to you, which ones do you think might help?

 

[BPPLEE]

The police haven't made this piece of evidence public.

Why? The shooter is dead, there will be no trial so there’s no issues with this affecting a case why not release it?

 

[BPPLEE]

Since some regulations could be acceptable to you, which ones do you think might help?

You can start by enforcing the laws we have. I think forbidding felons from owning firearms is a great law. Metal detectors and school resource officers would help at schools more than a new law. Metal detectors wouldn’t have mattered in this shooting but SROs may have

 

[public hermit]

You can start by enforcing the laws we have. I think forbidding felons from owning firearms is a great law. Metal detectors and school resource officers would help at schools more than a new law. Metal detectors wouldn’t have mattered in this shooting but SROs may have

Then you don't support any new gun regulations. Why?

 

[seeking.IAM]

We should not have to fortify our schools to keep our children safe.

 

[BPPLEE]

Then you don't support any new gun regulations. Why?

How can I support them if I don’t know what they are?

We should not have to fortify our schools to keep our children safe.

We shouldn’t need armed security at our hospitals, we shouldn’t need surveillance cameras in our businesses, we shouldn’t need guns to protect ourselves but we do.

 

[JosephZ]

Why? The shooter is dead, there will be no trial so there’s no issues with this affecting a case why not release it?

Why do you want to see the manifesto?

 

[Ana the Ist]

With obvious exception of intersex folks.

Well are they intersex or female?

 

[Nithavela]

We shouldn’t need armed security at our hospitals, we shouldn’t need surveillance cameras in our businesses, we shouldn’t need guns to protect ourselves but we do.

People in other countries don't, by and large.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why do you want to see the manifesto?

Because it provides insight to motive.

Any person side problem solving would require that. Gun side problem solving seems beyond reach.

 

[BPPLEE]

Why do you want to see the manifesto?

We’ve seen every other shooter’s manifesto that had one and usually excerpts. Why do you not want people to see this one? Why hasn’t it been released?