Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[ralliann]

I dont care about people just milling around, except those that entered the building in a criminal break-in.

I do care about the vandalism, vile disrespect, and of course the violence.....but mostly I care about the overall effort to overturn a valid election and install an unelected president, strongman style..

So far we have not seen any of that with shaman. Now we have more info to go with. A good thing.

 

[BPPLEE]

Then what is his purpose in the Sicknick timeline gaslighting.

(National Review, whatever.)

“(National Review, whatever.)”. Yeah, still waiting on that quote

 

[ralliann]

“(National Review, whatever.)”. Yeah, still waiting on that quote

It will be good to see about all the people that have been arrested, and threatened with arrest. Certainly some people did things that were chargeable. These should face the consequences. But how many didn't? That's what is important here.

 

[Aldebaran]

obstruction of an official proceeding.
Very broad......in other words easy to pin it on whoever you wish. It originally was concerned with evidence tampering. A serious thing. Well, is withholding exculpatory evidence, evidence tampering?

Corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding is a felony under U.S. federal law. It was enacted as part of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act of 2002 as a reaction to the Enron scandal, and closed a legal loophole on who could be charged with evidence tampering by defining the new crime very broadly. It later became known for its use as a charge against defendants associated with the 2021 U.S. Capitol attack for attempting to obstruct that year's Electoral College vote count.

I hope Chansley is exonerated and then sues those who put the Jan. 6th show trial together. He wouldn't be the first to succeed at such a thing. The time he's spent in solitary confinement, even before the chance to be tried, should get him a hefty sum of money for what he's been through.

 

[Aldebaran]

They didn't think he was violent. He wasn't convicted of being violent and neither was he charged with it. Maybe you should either quit exagerating or spend some time reading about the matter instead of listening to what people like Fox tell you. Which is, you might have heard, not necessarily the truth, but what you want to hear.

Well, it looks like you're right. It's worse than that! From CNN:

Jacob Chansley, the so-called “QAnon Shaman,” was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the US Capitol riot.

The Justice Department had asked for Chansley to receive a harsh sentence as a way to set an example among the January 6 rioters, and prosecutors have positioned Chansley as emblematic of a barbaric crowd.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/jacob-chansley-qanon-shaman-january-6-sentencing/index.html

So he wasn't convicted of anything he supposedly did, he was convicted and sentenced to prison to "set an example", and to be an emblem of a barbaric crowd. IOW, it's all for show.

 

[ralliann]

I hope Chansley is exonerated and then sues those who put the Jan. 6th show trial together. He wouldn't be the first to succeed at such a thing. The time he's spent in solitary confinement, even before the chance to be tried, should get him a hefty sum of money for what he's been through.

I think so too. But the way things have been going we might not see that for awhile. This information however hopefully is a start. Our justice system is in danger, and this hopefully will begin a turn around. People either don't care at all, or are unaware. We can hope this will open the eyes of the difference!

 

[Aldebaran]

Did they? I mean we saw him directed to a door, but I don't know what door that was. It would be nice if someone who has been in the Capitol can tell us what door it is:View attachment 328893

Chansley signed an admission that he was followed by police who repeatedly asked him to leave the building and he refused. CHP decided to use de-escalation techniques instead of busting heads like Tucker was suggesting.
PolitiFact - Evidence rebuts Tucker Carlson’s claim about Capitol Police acting as tour guides to ‘QAnon Shaman’

Again, if he was being escorted by "tour guides", why did he sign the plea agreement if he wasn't ignoring them repeatedly asking him to leave the building?

Spending weeks or months in solitary confinement without any real chance to defend himself (especially when the exonerating evidence is being withheld) will cause a person to plead guilty to hopefully relieve the psychological torture.

 

[ralliann]

Well, it looks like you're right. It's worse than that! From CNN:

Jacob Chansley, the so-called “QAnon Shaman,” was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the US Capitol riot.

The Justice Department had asked for Chansley to receive a harsh sentence as a way to set an example among the January 6 rioters, and prosecutors have positioned Chansley as emblematic of a barbaric crowd.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/jacob-chansley-qanon-shaman-january-6-sentencing/index.html

So he wasn't convicted of anything he supposedly did, he was convicted and sentenced to prison to "set an example", and to be an emblem of a barbaric crowd. IOW, it's all for show.

Yes. And notice how even in this thread there is the confounding of the bear spray incident, in this discussion about someone who never sprayed the man? And the confounding of his natural death to that incident. Someone with a health issue, dieing because of the nature of his job? IF, it was stress related, it was the duties of his job that were dangerous for him. But I am sure his health issues were unknown. But even at that, nobody knows if it was JOB RELATED. But they do not want that original narrative to emotionally leave in the scenario they created in people's minds.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes. And notice how even in this thread there is the confounding of the bear spray incident, in this discussion about someone who never sprayed the man? And the confounding of his natural death to that incident. Someone with a health issue, dieing because of the nature of his job? IF, it was stress related, it was the duties of his job that were dangerous for him. But I am sure his health issues were unknown. But even at that, nobody knows if it was JOB RELATED. But they do not want that original narrative to emotionally leave in the scenario they created in people's minds.

It reminds me of how so many of the other defendants are being held as political prisoners simply for "being there", as if being there is the same as assault. Makes me wonder why those who were "peaceful" at protests in the past weren't held to that standard.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I hope Chansley is exonerated and then sues those who put the Jan. 6th show trial together. He wouldn't be the first to succeed at such a thing. The time he's spent in solitary confinement, even before the chance to be tried, should get him a hefty sum of money for what he's been through.

There is no such thing as the "Jan 6th show trial". Each of the 1000 defendants has their own case (or a case with a few defendants) that have separate trials, if the charges aren't dismissed first or a plea is entered. Chansley could have had a trial before a jury, but he chose to plead guilty to one of the charges on his indictment.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Yes. And notice how even in this thread there is the confounding of the bear spray incident, in this discussion about someone who never sprayed the man? And the confounding of his natural death to that incident. Someone with a health issue, dieing because of the nature of his job? IF, it was stress related, it was the duties of his job that were dangerous for him. But I am sure his health issues were unknown. But even at that, nobody knows if it was JOB RELATED. But they do not want that original narrative to emotionally leave in the scenario they created in people's minds.

It's *you* that has done the confounding here. You replied to a post that was about Chansley with talk of "the bear spray incident". (Both are in Tucker's first video, so both are on topic to the thread.) [And since you brought up Officer Sicknick, he collapsed on the job some time after being sprayed. He never recovered.]

 

[ralliann]

It reminds me of how so many of the other defendants are being held as political prisoners simply for "being there", as if being there is the same as assault. Makes me wonder why those who were "peaceful" at protests in the past weren't held to that standard.

Yes. And those still feeling/being threatened. Sadly, there are people that desire this kind of thing. If or when it is corrected, they will still be among us, they will always be some among us. This kind of thing existing before our nation was, is the reasons for our government and justice system. We attempted to avoid it. History is full of tyranny.

 

[ralliann]

It's *you* that has done the confounding here. You replied to a post that was about Chansley with talk of "the bear spray incident". (Both are in Tucker's first video, so both are on topic to the thread.) [And since you brought up Officer Sicknick, he collapsed on the job some time after being sprayed. He never recovered.]

Oh, I see. It was nothing else than that spray. So, it was job related. His health was too fragile for the job he had.

 

[Aldebaran]

There is no such thing as the "Jan 6th show trial". Each of the 1000 defendants has their own case (or a case with a few defendants) that have separate trials, if the charges aren't dismissed first or a plea is entered. Chansley could have had a trial before a jury, but he chose to plead guilty to one of the charges on his indictment.

8 months in solitary confinement will make a person do whatever is suggested by his lawyer. I don't think I would have lasted that long.

 

[ralliann]

There is no such thing as the "Jan 6th show trial". Each of the 1000 defendants has their own case (or a case with a few defendants) that have separate trials, if the charges aren't dismissed first or a plea is entered. Chansley could have had a trial before a jury, but he chose to plead guilty to one of the charges on his indictment.

Well, no wonder he pled guilty. If they denied exculpatory evidence, it is obvious what they were looking to do. So, let's wait and see what is fact or not heh?

 

[JacksBratt]

I think that the entire footage should be posted to the public, with any security issues taken out.

What is really odd is that Tucker went right out and started presenting footage..... stated that he had more to present on Tuesday.. then Chuck and Mitch got up and said he better shut it down... and ..... what do ya know.... no more footage.

Did Tucker get muzzled?
The ratings for his show were exceptional that night.
The people want to see what happened.
Not what the Chuck's want... Not what the MTG's want.. but all of it.... let them decide.

Let's see what happened with those smashing windows. Let's see who was let in through doors openned by the police. Let's see any vandalism done inside... and by who...

And...

Let's see what Ray Epps was doing

 

[USincognito]

Let's see what Ray Epps was doing

The only thing more hilarious than trying to make Ray Epps a thing (and I'll gladly explain why) is trying to make John Sullivan a thing.

 

[JacksBratt]

Well, it looks like you're right. It's worse than that! From CNN:

Jacob Chansley, the so-called “QAnon Shaman,” was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the US Capitol riot.

The Justice Department had asked for Chansley to receive a harsh sentence as a way to set an example among the January 6 rioters, and prosecutors have positioned Chansley as emblematic of a barbaric crowd.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/17/politics/jacob-chansley-qanon-shaman-january-6-sentencing/index.html

So he wasn't convicted of anything he supposedly did, he was convicted and sentenced to prison to "set an example", and to be an emblem of a barbaric crowd. IOW, it's all for show.

One TV host even stated that he should have been shot. Now, when we see what he really did in there.... it's way over the line.

STEVE SCHMIDT: Shoot him. Shoot him. Like is it you burst into the United States, if he was dressed like bin Laden, would they have shot him?

From:

TUCKER CARLSON: We knew there was a reason leaders hid the January 6 tapes

Fox News host Tucker Carlson uncovers information about the January 6 Capitol breach after being provided access to the full footage on "Tucker Carlson Tonight."

www.foxnews.com

 

[JacksBratt]

The only thing more hilarious than trying to make Ray Epps a thing (and I'll gladly explain why) is trying to make John Sullivan a thing.

Ray Epps doesn't have to be "made a thing" ... The FBI and the Democrats are trying to cover the fact that he was "the thing"...

He was the instigator..

 

[Aldebaran]

The only thing more hilarious than trying to make Ray Epps a thing (and I'll gladly explain why) is trying to make John Sullivan a thing.

He made himself a thing with his actions that day, and then bragging about it since. Why others sit in prison while he goes free is a question people would like an answer to.