Trump To Take Action After Ohio Train Disaster

[Aldebaran]

We didn't start doing that either. If anything these have been more lax.

To explain the inflation of the past few years you'd have to talk about what has changed, and it hasn't been the scope or enforcement of regulations.

A lot of food comes from the west where it isn't raining anymore driving up fruit and vegetable prices. Eggs come from chickens that are having historic bird flu. Sunflowers come from Ukraine driving up food oil prices so butter is more expensive. Coffee is from South America that has been having a lot of weather issues. Oil and natural gas come from Russia driving up energy prices. Fertilizer comes from Belarus. Covid caused supply chain disruption and helped slow the largest manufacturing economy in the world in China that supplies us with cheap goods.

What new regulations are causing inflation?

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I honestly can't make your case with those.

Yes, those things you mentioned contribute to higher prices as well as what I mentioned. More regulations, higher taxes, wages, penalties, etc. all make for higher prices on the things we buy.

 

[Pommer]

Yes, those things you mentioned contribute to higher prices as well as what I mentioned. More regulations, higher taxes, wages, penalties, etc. all make for higher prices on the things we buy.

From the Efficiency Standards for washing machines and refrigerators section of @variant’s link:

These rules increase energy efficiency standards for washing machines, refrigerators, and freezers. The specific standards vary for each type of appliance. For example, the size of the washing machine and whether it is front- or top-loading determine the maximum amount of kilowatt-hours and gallons of water it can use per cycle. Overall, DoE estimates that its new efficiency standards will reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 233 million metric tons over the next 30 years. The department also anticipates that these new standards will save the average user $295 over the life of a washing machine and $130 over the life of a refrigerator, saving Americans $3.5 billion each year.

But this is incorrect because you say so?

 

[Aldebaran]

From the Efficiency Standards for washing machines and refrigerators section of @variant’s link:

But this is incorrect because you say so?

I wasn't aware that the subject has shifted from trains to washing machines and refrigerators.

 

[variant]

Yes, those things you mentioned contribute to higher prices as well as what I mentioned. More regulations, higher taxes, wages, penalties, etc. all make for higher prices on the things we buy.

And you have to explain higher prices with what's been changing, not what has been staying the same.

 

[Valletta]

To an extent I see your point but fundamentally I disagree.

I am well aware that CEOs are solely in the business of maximizing profits. That means their opinion on what is best to benefit society as a whole, should REALLY be taken with a grain of salt; Because they aren't interested in all society, they are just interested in making the sweet sweet cash.

Now if a bunch of CEOs in one industry get together and recognize a great way to save money, and then lobby the government to try to make it come to fruition, it should be ASSUMED that these people, also, don't have society's best interest at heart. But, because they have a LOT of money, they are able to buy the politicians into voting for certain things.

Conservatives bemoan regulation like it's this terrible thing but it's truly NOT a terrible thing. The issue is that it cuts into the profits of companies or sectors. If there are proper regulations that a implimented and followed consistently, those problems all but disappear. I mean, there health and hygiene rules about eating shirtless in a macdonalds but metric tonnes of toxic chemicals can be parked on a traintrack with no back up safety systems in place?

What the......?

Some regulations are good and some are not. Regulations can be misused, as they are currently in an effort to pursue a Marxist type agenda, such as was with the radical green movement.

 

[Pommer]

I wasn't aware that the subject has shifted from trains to washing machines and refrigerators.

You asserted that rules and regulations only make things more expensive, this was a refutation of that talking-point, but we’re far off topic now.

 

[Aldebaran]

And you have to explain higher prices with what's been changing, not what has been staying the same.

The words "higher" and "more" indicate changing.

 

[Tuur]

Sorry? Are there place where utility rates AREN'T going up?
You keep gloating about california but up here in Alberta, an VERY conservative bastion in Alberta, our utility rates are going THROUGH THE ROOF because our conservative government refuses to cap the rates. There's no REASON for the increase; it's just greed.

You want to cap rates, but what about rising costs involved in providing electricity? What do you think happens then? A company is faced with rising costs and no way to pass them on. How does it stay in business? Try deferring things like maintenance. Try cutting back on personnel. Guess what that does to reliability.

 

[Tuur]

From the Efficiency Standards for washing machines and refrigerators section of @variant’s link:

But this is incorrect because you say so?

I've yet to encounter a government agency that argues what it does is unessential and a burden to the people. Whenever you see a figure on energy efficiency savings, always try to fact check by doing your own calculations. Even statements on lighting savings, a straightforward calculation, look dubious at times, and you have to question their assumptions.

Another thing you have to question is whether the energy savings over the life of the appliance offsets the increased cost. Maybe it does; maybe it doesn't.

 

[Larniavc]

I'm a bit late to the party: what did Trump actually do in this situation?

 

[Arcangl86]

I'm a bit late to the party: what did Trump actually do in this situation?

From what I can tell he gave a speech and gave out bottled water.

 

[seeking.IAM]

From what I can tell he gave a speech and gave out bottled water.

What a hero. I hope he got his picture taken to commemorate this momentous occasion.

 

[Arcangl86]

What a hero. I hope he got his picture taken to commemorate this momentous occasion.

Oh it's worth saying, the bottles of water were Trump branded.

 

[essentialsaltes]

What a hero. I hope he got his picture taken to commemorate this momentous occasion.

Hero is right! I understand he also gave out some Goya brand cans of beans.

"In an act of heroism, Donald Trump has brought canned beans and “Trump water” to the people of East Palestine, Ohio as they face health uncertainties following the train derailment earlier this month."

 

[Say it aint so]

LOL, there have been derailments that took place under Trump's term that resulted in actual deaths. Trump didn't go to those sites. Neither did his DOT head Cho. Trump did tweet out the need to pass his never written transportation bill that was suppose to be "ready in two weeks" as stated every month for four years. This thread is amusing.

 

[iluvatar5150]

LOL, there have been derailments that took place under Trump's term that resulted in actual deaths. Trump didn't go to those sites. Neither did his DOT head Cho. Trump did tweet out the need to pass his never written transportation bill that was suppose to be "ready in two weeks" as stated every month for four years. This thread is amusing.

The complaints from the right are so transparently disingenuous it’s hard to understand how anybody takes them seriously. It’s as if folks have never encountered a Republican before and have no concept of their approach towards regulation, or of Trump and his approach towards doing his job.

 

[Yarddog]

Joke if you wish, but Trump has enough money to provide significant relief on his own. Now: think of how that will play politically.

He should, since he may have been directly responsible for the derailment.

 

[iluvatar5150]

He should, since he may have been directly responsible for the derailment.

He wasn’t.

 

[Aldebaran]

Hero is right! I understand he also gave out some Goya brand cans of beans.

"In an act of heroism, Donald Trump has brought canned beans and “Trump water” to the people of East Palestine, Ohio as they face health uncertainties following the train derailment earlier this month."

For comparison, how much food/water did mayor pete bring there?
Well, at least joe biden brought them 500 million in aid, with 2 billion dollars more shortly afterwards. Oh wait, that's what he went to UKRAINE to give that government!

 

[iluvatar5150]

For comparison, how much food/water did mayor pete bring there?

I wasn't aware that the DOT was on the hook for supplying disaster aid. Either way, he brought the same amount as Elaine Chao brought to Dupont, WA.

Well, at least joe biden brought them 500 million in aid, with 2 billion dollars more shortly afterwards. Oh wait, that's what he went to UKRAINE to give that government!

Is the federal government not providing aid to East Palestine?