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Before, there is an oral tradition that they incorporated into the written Torah. The Bible has no sentences or any structure at all.
So you problem is not with the Bible. Your problem is with your interpretation or understanding of the Bible.
All you have presented is theory and your own opinion about where Eden is located. That's it.
Then it would appear we have no common ground to have a conversation.
If people are not interested in knowing the truth, then there is no reason to invest any time.
Yes, bingo, correct. I am YEC, OEC, Theistic Evolutionist and you may as well throw in GAP for good measure. I am all of the above, but it is the most easy to explain dispensations or one day is 1,000 years. A day is literal, yet contains all time, all ages, and all mysteries. The Bible has 70 to 100 layers of meaning.
I see no reason to continue this conversation if you do not accept the work Bishop Ussher has done.
We know the earth is 4.5 billion years old which makes OEC true. We KNOW that Adam and Eve lived 6,000 years ago in the Garden of Eden, which makes YEC true. The most famous YEC is Bishop Ussher, who says very little about anything that took place before Adam and Eve. His 2,000-page book is a history of the last 6,000 years.
Everyone has a subjective opinion. Science is objective. So I try to use science to verify my theory and hypothesis. That IS what science is all about. That is how the scientific method works. People are free to argue for or against my hypothesis and I have the freedom to respond or give a rebuttal to their argument.
I am giving up your request for me to waste my time when you are not willing to put any effort into coming up with anything valid. My son graduated Magnum Cumulatie in Computer Engineering. They threw half the class out. He does not claim to be smarter, he just claims to work harder. He reminds me of my brother who used to work 12 hours a day when he was in medical school. Even my father worked and studied hard in medical school.
No. The measured 4.5 billiion year age of the Earth is what makes OEC necessary as a clean reading of the Genesis creation story and the subsequent chronology implicates a young Earth of 6-10 thousand year age (depending on the details of the chronology). OEC is the first attempt to adapt the traditional (YEC) creation view to objective scientific evidence. In this case, the age of the Earth. I'm not sure how OEC people deal with the chronology since A&E in Eden (which they definitely believe in) as it is not as common as later forms or YEC.
That's literally the thing creationists have to prove. It is the claim. It is also incompatible with OEC. Either the Earth is young (YEC) or old (OEC) it can not be both.
Not having read it I suspect it was "nothing" given "In the beginning" and all that.
Evolution stands up in a court of law because it is a science and appropriate for teaching in public schools. Creationism in its various forms (YEC, OEC, Theistic evolutoin, ID) is religion and as with all religious instruction, prohibited in public schools.
You are getting your science book mixed up with your history book. We can use science like archeology to verify what we read in our history book is real. For example, Abraham was from the city of UR and they have done excavations of that city. Even one of the oldest books, the Odyssey talks about the city of Troy. Again Archeology has done work on the ancient remains of that city.
I did Control F on the Wiki page. There was no mention of Abraham.You are getting your science book mixed up with your history book. We can use science like archeology to verify what we read in our history book is real. For example, Abraham was from the city of UR and they have done excavations of that city. Even one of the oldest books, the Odyssey talks about the city of Troy. Again Archeology has done work on the ancient remains of that city.
In Genesis 11:28, it states, "And Haran died before his father Terah in the land of his nativity, in Ur of the Chaldees." Later, in Genesis 15:7, God tells Abraham to leave his home in Ur and go to a new land that God will show him.
We can ask about the DNA of Abraham only DNA is for populations, not individuals. It has been known for over a decade that a majority of men who self report as members of the Jewish priesthood (Cohanim) carry a characteristic Y chromosome haplotype termed the Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH). The CMH has since been used to trace putative Jewish ancestral origins of various populations.
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You have to type in Abraham in the search bar. Abraham - Wikipedia
Am I? I do know that the bible is neither. I do know the difference
Archeology can be used to supplement history, but history is the study of the past in the era of written documentation. A good portion of archeology focuses on pre-literate society.
And what is your point?
Since you are a big fan of Ussher's timeline, at the time he puts Abraham, Chaldea didn't exist yet. Oops.
It may come as a shock to you, but I have my own personal, unique, genome. I am not a population.
And what does this have to do with the only part of my post you quoted (and really didn't address at all)? Haven't the Jews been free of a priesthood for 1950 years (since the Romans destroyed their temple in 70 CE)?
The Bible is a history book. We use the Scientific method and scientifically gathered evidence to interpret and understand the Bible. Gerald Lawrence Schroeder is an Orthodox Jewish physicist, author, lecturer, and teacher at the College of Jewish Studies Aish HaTorah's Discovery Seminar. This is what he tells us: "At MIT, in the Hayden library, we had about 50,000 books that deal with the development of the universe: cosmology, chemistry, thermodynamics, paleontology, archaeology, the high-energy physics of creation. Up the river at Harvard, at the Weidner library, they probably have 200,000 books on these same topics. The Bible gives us 31 sentences. Don't expect that by a simple reading of those sentences, you'll know every detail that is held within the text. It's obvious that we have to dig deeper to get the information out."
