Noah's Flood & the Strait of Hormuz

[AV1611VET]

@AV1611VET and @Unqualified take note.

Okay, thank you.

Two words came to mind, while I was watching the video: Frances Kelsey.

 

[doubtingmerle]

That's because God cleaned it up.

Did God leave a mess behind, when He took a rib from Adam's side to make Eve?

No -- not so much as a scar left behind.

And any doctor around at the time would not be able to find one.

Uh huh, and you think those rocks that those fossils are in have been down there from creation. So how did those dinosaur bones get put down there into solid rocks that had always been there? Bones won't travel through rocks. OK, you may think God somehow teleported those bones down through solid rock. And what about the rock material that those bones displaced? Where did that go? Another miracle, I suppose. And how did bone that was buried whole in solid rock transform into fossils? That wouldn't happen. Miracle again, I suppose.

But if God wanted to get rid of the dinosaur bones on the ground, and make corresponding fossils in the rocks, why do all those miracles of teleporting and fossilization? Why not just make the dinosaur bones disappear while simultaneously making fossils appear deep in the rocks? Come to think of it, that seems to be what you have described. So, what's the difference?

And if all God is doing is making bones disappear while simultaneously making fossils appear, how do you know those fossils even look like the dinosaurs that were destroyed in the flood? How do you know he didn't just make the bones all disappear, while making fossils that looked like very different creatures?

And why did God arrange all those fossils so that they look so much like evolution? If God arranged those bones in an order that had nothing to do with their time of existence on Earth, how do you know that he did not rearrange the letters in your copy of John 3:16 in a different order from the original inspired KJV?

If your God can rearrange bones in dirt, he can rearrange ink on paper, yes? Or is your God too weak to do that?

 

[dlamberth]

Hide it!?

He put what He did in writing.

And just like the Creation Week, He stated what He did, when He did it, how He did it, why He did it, where He did it, what order He did it in, how long it took Him to do it, and who the eyewitness were.

In writing.

Than why hide it in the Earth? That makes no sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

Than why hide it in the Earth?

Does your trash go to the landfill?

If I dug around under the earth at your local landfill, would I see bones from non-avian dinosaurs there, compliments of Colonel Sanders?

Not to mention other bones as well?

Is your local landfill "hiding something"?

Or does it have well-documented written records for others to see?

That makes no sense.

That's because you're not looking at it right.

 

[dlamberth]

Does your trash go to the landfill?

If I dug around under the earth at your local landfill, would I see bones from non-avian dinosaurs there, compliments of Colonel Sanders?

Not to mention other bones as well?

Is your local landfill "hiding something"?

Or does it have well-documented written records for others to see?

The bones of dinosaurs are not layed down all mixed up like one would find in a landfill.

That's because you're not looking at it right.

Ya...Right!!!

 

[doubtingmerle]

this is a spirit of anti christ, you don’t believe the bible

We have told you how marine fossils got in the mountains.
You simply ignore it and link me to antichrist.

I have told you what flood deposits look like.
They are nothing like your claimed flood deposits.
You simply ignore it and link me to antichrist.

I have explained that cutting of the Grand Canyon required a long time.
You simply ignore it and link me to antichrist.

I have explained how dinosaur fossils are always in rocks that date older than humans.
You simply ignore it and link me to antichrist.

Do you think you are using effective debate tactics?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Does your trash go to the landfill?

I

In what sense can you possibly claim that fossilized material now embedded in rocks is the bones that were laying around after the flood? That simply makes no sense at all.

I cannot see how your claim is different from God vaporizing the bones and making fossilized minerals in the rocks simultaneously appear deep in the Earth.

 

[AV1611VET]

The bones of dinosaurs are not layed down all mixed up like one would find in a landfill.

Way to miss the point.

Okay -- suppose they built a retaining wall around the landfill, completely inundated it with water from above, as well as dynamiting it from underneath, then dried up all the water and replaced what was left by recycling symbol?

What then?

 

[dlamberth]

Way to miss the point.

Okay -- suppose they built a retaining wall around the landfill, completely inundated it with water from above, as well as dynamiting it from underneath, then dried up all the water and replaced what was left by recycling symbol?

What then?

I guess I don't get the purpose of your imagined example. What are you trying to get at?

 

[AV1611VET]

I guess I don't get the purpose of your imagined example. What are you trying to get at?

Okay.

(wow)

Okay ... God completely inundates the earth from above and below.

Destroys everything and everybody (except those in the Ark).

Everything is floating around like a big giant landfill.

Bones, trees, trilobites, people, birds, dinosaurs -- all floating around everywhere.

God orders the waters -- (with a lot of the "floaties" in it) -- to "siphoning points" for removal from the earth.

God takes the muck and the mire and the bones left lying around and layers them according to some predetermined order -- (that He predetermined before the earth was ever created).

Layers the trilobites, layers the dinosaurs over them, layers the people over them.

Then He "blow dries" everything until it's all solid.

Calls forth soil, calls forth trees, calls forth shrubs, calls forth grasses, etc. and so on.

Noah sends out a dove, which plucks an olive leaf off and brings it back to the Ark.

Noah and company disembark.

(Let's see where this goes.)

 

[doubtingmerle]

Okay.

(wow)

Okay ... God completely inundates the earth from above and below.

Destroys everything and everybody (except those in the Ark).

Everything is floating around like a big giant landfill.

Bones, trees, trilobites, people, birds, dinosaurs -- all floating around everywhere.

God orders the waters -- (with a lot of the "floaties" in it) -- to "siphoning points" for removal from the earth.

God takes the muck and the mire and the bones left lying around and layers them according to some predetermined order -- (that He predetermined before the earth was ever created).

Layers the trilobites, layers the dinosaurs over them, layers the people over them.

Then He "blow dries" everything until it's all solid.

Calls forth soil, calls forth trees, calls forth shrubs, calls forth grasses, etc. and so on.

Noah sends out a dove, which plucks an olive leaf off and brings it back to the Ark.

Noah and company disembark.

(Let's see where this goes.)

Which completely contradicts what you said earlier implying the rocks being there from creation. Are you backing down from that position? (Taking Questions on Embedded Age Creation)

If God did this after the flood, then he specifically manipulated billions of pieces of rubidium, strontium, lead, helium, argon, etc. so that they all have ratios that indicate the rocks had experienced radioactive decay for millions of years. Further, the measured age of the rocks by multiple techniques match the order that can easily be determined by studying the order in which the rocks are laid down.

And all that is so clear to me, it fools me into thinking the Earth is old.

Surely a God must know this would be deceptive.

If God does this, and thus I am fooled, how do you know he did not deliberately rearrange the bits of ink on your copy of the Bible, thus fooling you?

 

[doubtingmerle]

Okay.

(wow)

Okay ... God completely inundates the earth from above and below.

Destroys everything and everybody (except those in the Ark).

Everything is floating around like a big giant landfill.

Bones, trees, trilobites, people, birds, dinosaurs -- all floating around everywhere.

God orders the waters -- (with a lot of the "floaties" in it) -- to "siphoning points" for removal from the earth.

God takes the muck and the mire and the bones left lying around and layers them according to some predetermined order -- (that He predetermined before the earth was ever created).

Layers the trilobites, layers the dinosaurs over them, layers the people over them.

Then He "blow dries" everything until it's all solid.

Calls forth soil, calls forth trees, calls forth shrubs, calls forth grasses, etc. and so on.

Noah sends out a dove, which plucks an olive leaf off and brings it back to the Ark.

Noah and company disembark.

(Let's see where this goes.)

So which way is it? Were the rock layers created at creation, or were they created after the flood?

If they were created after the flood, then I remind you that the last time I asked you a question about rock layers being created after the flood, you dodged the question by suggesting they could have been created before the flood. So now that you switched back to the rocks being created after the flood, how about answering the question? Once again:

The rock layers down there have clear indication that they have been undergoing radioactive decay for millions of years. If you say they were created this way--after the Flood--such that their apparent age was embedded in them, is not that basically the same reasoning as the suggestion that we were created Last Thursday with our memories embedded in us? How do you know one is true and not the other?​

 

[AV1611VET]

So which way is it?

240

 

[sjastro]

Okay.

(wow)

Okay ... God completely inundates the earth from above and below.

Destroys everything and everybody (except those in the Ark).

Everything is floating around like a big giant landfill.

Bones, trees, trilobites, people, birds, dinosaurs -- all floating around everywhere.

God orders the waters -- (with a lot of the "floaties" in it) -- to "siphoning points" for removal from the earth.

God takes the muck and the mire and the bones left lying around and layers them according to some predetermined order -- (that He predetermined before the earth was ever created).

Layers the trilobites, layers the dinosaurs over them, layers the people over them.

Then He "blow dries" everything until it's all solid.

Calls forth soil, calls forth trees, calls forth shrubs, calls forth grasses, etc. and so on.

Noah sends out a dove, which plucks an olive leaf off and brings it back to the Ark.

Noah and company disembark.

(Let's see where this goes.)

This is even more bizarre than Jacobean English being the original language.
Why would God go to all this trouble in the first place and in particular put an iridium rich layer above the dinosaur remains?

 

[doubtingmerle]

This is even more bizarre than Jacobean English being the original language.
Why would God go to all this trouble in the first place and in particular put an iridium rich layer above the dinosaur remains?

Unfortunately, I think you might find the answer is 240.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Unfortunately, I think you might find the answer is 240.

If only we could all be so lucky.

 

[sjastro]

Unfortunately, I think you might find the answer is 240.

And I thought the answer to everything was 42.

 

[Unqualified]

The bones were fossilized in sedimentary metamorphic rocks because of pressure, just like @AV1611VET said. Your not listening most of your questions could be answered if you’d just think about what we said.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why would God go to all this trouble in the first place and in particular put an iridium rich layer above the dinosaur remains?

Beats me.

And what do you mean by "all this trouble"?

'Taint no trouble a'tawl for God.

 

[dlamberth]

The bones were fossilized in sedimentary metamorphic rocks because of pressure, just like @AV1611VET said. Your not listening most of your questions could be answered if you’d just think about what we said.

Most of what you say is not what the Earth is telling us. That's a problem.