So...Biden Also Took Private Documents

[ralliann]

As we have seen the NASA is not immune to correcting bad information come the handling of documents. Not sure who the "he" is you speak of come being charged. Let me say this, and I have always said this about Trump. When it comes down to doing either the right thing, the wrong thing, or nothing, if Trump sees even doing the wrong thing a personal benefit, he will do the wrong thing without hesitation. That's the summation of him docs in Mar A Largo situation.

Ah, the border is not open either. All is well, only a thousand phentynol

The deliberate act of removing official documents from the White House?

@essentialsaltes....I watched people argue for months that even just possessing these documents was a criminal act. "Trump can't just take classified documents with him!"
eyou say "oopsie"?

If this isn't a crime....then having documents in possession at Mar A Lago isn't either. Trump just has to say "oops...forgot about those".

More documents found at another location. They were found by an aide.

 

[Say it aint so]

To save himself from jail?

Why wouldn't he? Sounds completely in character to me.






I always wonder if most people think most people are smart or realize if most people are average....not what we'd rightly call smart....and you'd agree with most people, then you're probably just average intelligence.

Anyway, let's just ignore your appeal to popularity and I'll let you know I really never cared much about what most people think...I occasionally find myself agreeing with a large group...but almost never for the same reasons.

I'm sorry, you lost me.

 

[Say it aint so]

Ah, the border is not open either. All is well, only a thousand phentynol

I like kumquats.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I'm sorry, you lost me.

Yeah...it happens. Don't worry about it.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I like kumquats.

And now they found more documents at Biden’s home!

 

[Ana the Ist]

Ah, the border is not open either. All is well, only a thousand phentynol

More documents found at another location. They were found by an aide.

You only need to go back 6 pages to see people telling me "there's no need for a raid blah blah blah"...."they turned over all the documents".

It's almost like I can see the future.

 

[essentialsaltes]

You only need to go back 6 pages to see people telling me "there's no need for a raid blah blah blah"....

Why do you think there's a need for a raid? Has Biden been obstructing the return of documents?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why do you think there's a need for a raid? Has Biden been obstructing the return of documents?

He apparently has no idea where they are or how many.

It sure would be helpful if he followed the rules written under Obama. Perhaps NARA can get up from their nap and take a gander at exactly how many are missing....and then we can just hold a trial for both presidents at the same time.

Do you think those "aides" have security clearances?

 

[essentialsaltes]

He apparently has no idea where they are or how many.

To authorize a search warrant, a judge has to be convinced of where they are and what is it.

 

[Ana the Ist]

To authorize a search warrant, a judge has to be convinced of where they are and what is it.

Why would a search warrant be needed?

Biden isn't going to press charges. Surely he wants any documentation he can't remember to be found.

Because these idiots in the FBI have been leaking what kind of stuff they contain, you could have foreign agents going through his stuff or working one of these aides or lawyers right now.

This is a colossal screw up made larger by the leaks. Time to prioritize national security. I don't care what he has, I'm not going to call for charges, but this has gotten to stupid levels of clumsy.

 

[Ana the Ist]

To authorize a search warrant, a judge has to be convinced of where they are and what is it.

Biden doesn't require a search warrant.

He's not a corrupt president, right? He doesn't have anything to hide in your mind, right?

He can literally just call the FBI and tell them "Hey, I might have forgotten to do what I was supposed to do and left some valuable and dangerous intel and documents laying around any place that I've worked out of, lived in, or in owned in the past 15 years."

Then he tells them to call the nearest local offices and have them send a team to every location. The FBI doesn't need a warrant to recover the Joe's property on Joe's presidential term.

Imagine that a cop showed up at your door saying that he's chasing a murderer they believe was wounded during the murder....and he shows you the trail blood leading to your door. He says it appears to be going around your house but he wants to be certain because the murderer is extremely dangerous. He tells you his body cam is on, and he's not going to charge you for any minor crimes or nonviolent felonies if you had, for example, some personal use illegal narcotics laying around.

If you say yes to the search....the cop doesn't need to say "thanks....now give me a few of hours to get a warrant application filled out and find a judge who might wake up and sign the search warrant and since it's 2 am now....you shouldn't expect me back before 8 am."

That's not how it works. You're a solidly law abiding citizen so you tell him to search anywhere he likes. Realistically, he's got enough evidence and the time sensitive/emergency threat to your life and neighbors would be enough to search without a warrant....he's only asking in case you're good friends with the killer and when he's found, he knows your lawyer will try to claim he didn't have enough evidence. That could have been anyone's blood trail leading from the murder scene to your front door. It's not likely to work as a defense but if you have even a below average lawyer, they'll try.

In this scenario....Joe isn't just the property owner, he's the cop's boss. The cop is actually tens of thousands of federal agents with Top Secret security clearance or higher.

So there's not a lot of reasons to have lawyers and aides picking through his belongings and every single reason is pretty bad. It's not a danger to you or the neighbors....it's potentially a danger to the nation or our allies.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Biden doesn't require a search warrant.

He's not a corrupt president, right? He doesn't have anything to hide in your mind, right?

He can literally just call the FBI and tell them "Hey, I might have forgotten to do what I was supposed to do and left some valuable and dangerous intel and documents laying around any place that I've worked out of, lived in, or in owned in the past 15 years."

Then he tells them to call the nearest local offices and have them send a team to every location. The FBI doesn't need a warrant to recover the Joe's property on Joe's presidential term.

Imagine that a cop showed up at your door saying that he's chasing a murderer they believe was wounded during the murder....and he shows you the trail blood leading to your door. He says it appears to be going around your house but he wants to be certain because the murderer is extremely dangerous. He tells you his body cam is on, and he's not going to charge you for any minor crimes or nonviolent felonies if you had, for example, some personal use illegal narcotics laying around.

If you say yes to the search....the cop doesn't need to say "thanks....now give me a few of hours to get a warrant application filled out and find a judge who might wake up and sign the search warrant and since it's 2 am now....you shouldn't expect me back before 8 am."

That's not how it works. You're a solidly law abiding citizen so you tell him to search anywhere he likes. Realistically, he's got enough evidence and the time sensitive/emergency threat to your life and neighbors would be enough to search without a warrant....he's only asking in case you're good friends with the killer and when he's found, he knows your lawyer will try to claim he didn't have enough evidence. That could have been anyone's blood trail leading from the murder scene to your front door. It's not likely to work as a defense but if you have even a below average lawyer, they'll try.

In this scenario....Joe isn't just the property owner, he's the cop's boss. The cop is actually tens of thousands of federal agents with Top Secret security clearance or higher.

So there's not a lot of reasons to have lawyers and aides picking through his belongings and every single reason is pretty bad. It's not a danger to you or the neighbors....it's potentially a danger to the nation or our allies.

The police would probably not ask me, they would follow the trail of blood as probable cause. But if they did ask I would wait for the warrant. This cop is lying to me. The cop has no ability to charge me with anything. The promise not to charge me is empty. Only the DA can charge. The police gather evidence and apprehend suspects. The cop couldn’t even control the evidence and just not say they saw something because of the body cam footage that the DA would absolutely look at because this is a murder investigation. Additionally, the search warrant would limit where they could search such as where a person could fit since they are looking for a murder suspect. Without one, this cop could go through literally everything in the house since I consented to the search. Furthermore, I would immediately be getting a lawyer after I send them away to get a warrant because it isn’t going to take until morning to get a warrant. In this situation the police would be able to wake a judge to get a warrant issued.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Biden doesn't require a search warrant.

Well, no, Biden doesn't. His aides found some more documents. I guess we disagree about what a 'raid' is.

 

[BPPLEE]

"Secure" meaning "store securely in the proper place", not "obtain".


Perhaps not initially. But then the people who enforce the rules told him that he was violating the rules and he continued violating them. And at any rate, ignorance of the law is rarely an excuse.


It Trump had said "oopsie" and given everything back (or at least made a good-faith effort to do so) as soon as he knew that he had material he wasn't supposed to, that whole saga would have been a big nothingburger as well. But he didn't.

Translation: anything Biden does is justified, anything Trump does is wrong

 

[Hank77]

My mistake...what else?

You don't know what Trump is accused of or being investigated for?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Translation: anything Biden does is justified, anything Trump does is wrong

Might want to fire that translator.

 

[rjs330]

FLASHBACK: Biden Shocked Anyone Could Be 'Irresponsible' Enough to Unknowingly Possess Classified Docs

When federal authorities last August discovered classified documents at former president Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, President Joe Biden said he couldn't understand "how anyone could be that irresponsible."

freebeacon.com

When federal authorities last August discovered classified documents at former president Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, President Joe Biden said he couldn't understand "how anyone could be that irresponsible."​

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"I thought, what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods," the president said in an interview with CBS's 60 Minutes. "Totally irresponsible."​

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It turns out Biden was also describing himself: The White House on Monday announced that Biden's attorneys in November discovered classified documents at the president's office at the University of Pennsylvania.​

Will joe take responsibility?

No. Does that answer your question?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Translation: anything Biden does is justified, anything Trump does is wrong

Trump has known documents in a locked room for months with a specific lock the DOJ told him he must use. It is in a building that is closed to the public and has secret service agents on sight.

That's a problem and irresponsible

Joe has unknown documents in two different locations for years that he completely forgot about in public accessed buildings in closets.

Not an issue - hey! Joe just forgot about them - oopsi poopsie!

 

[essentialsaltes]

is "oopsie"?

With Biden, it's an oopsie.

Joe just forgot about them - oopsi poopsie!

Interesting seeing the hivemind at work.

 

[BPPLEE]

Might want to fire that translator.

Justice should be equal to all. Maybe you’re not but your post sounds biased.