Flood Geology

[AV1611VET]

This does not answer the question of where the dinosaur fossils came from.

Again, we find fossils of dinosaurs and many other animals down there. How did fossils get buried in multiple layers, often more than 2 miles deep? You don't seem to have an explanation for this. You have opposed the view that the fossils were there on the first week of creation (4004 BC), and you have opposed the view that they are the catastrophic remains of the flood. The last I heard, you claimed they were the deliberate divine cleanup arrangement in a specific order after the flood, but you have recently seemed to back away from that also. So where did those fossils come from? Will you simply ignore all the trillions down there?

I'm not going through this again with you, Merle.

You're not listening; and you try so hard to make me look wrong, you forget what I say.

Then I have to repeat myself over and over.

Think what you want to think, and I'll do the same.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's because they stretch time out to make their theories fit.

Or you could be wrong and the Earth really is as old as science says it is.

 

[AV1611VET]

How did fossils get buried in multiple layers, often more than 2 miles deep? You don't seem to have an explanation for this.

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The last I heard, you claimed they were the deliberate divine cleanup arrangement in a specific order after the flood,

Which is it, Merle?

You just contradicted yourself.

Did I give an explanation or not?

 

[AV1611VET]

Or you could be wrong and the Earth really is as old as science says it is.

Or somewhere in between.

The earth is as old as God willed it to be.

It just didn't GROW old.

It CAME INTO EXISTENCE old.

Something I've said over and over and over again.

You have no clue what I believe, do you?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Or somewhere in between.

The earth is as old as God willed it to be.

It just didn't GROW old.

It CAME INTO EXISTENCE old.

Something I've said over and over and over again.

You have no clue what I believe, do you?

Oh I know what you say and believe. You state it repeatedly.
I just see is as the bogus ramblings of someone who wants the Bible to be greater than God.

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh I know what you say and believe.

You think you do, but your posting history clearly says otherwise.

You state it repeatedly.

And you're just mimicking what I just said, aren't you?

I just see it as the bogus ramblings of someone who wants the Bible to be greater than God.

No -- what you apparently saw was me saying the earth is young.

Or you wouldn't have come in with:

"Or you could be wrong and the Earth really is as old as science says it is."

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You think you do, but your posting history clearly says otherwise.



And you're just mimicking what I just said, aren't you?



No -- what you apparently saw was me saying the earth is young.

Or you wouldn't have come in with:

"Or you could be wrong and the Earth really is as old as science says it is."

You say and believe that the Earth was created 6000 years ago with the appearance and false history of it being 14.5 billion years old.

What if that claim you make is wrong and the Earth IS actually 14.5 billion years old, in every way shape or form? That's the point I'm trying to make.

 

[Diamond72]

You seem to be saying that Gen 1:3 ("Let there be light") was around 10,004 BC. That makes no sense, for there is an abundance of fossil evidence for animal life far before then.

There are multiple layers and meanings. In this case, the glaciers were melting. What caused them to melt, a hair dryer? No of course not. LIGHT, the SUN. Of course, this has to do with global warming and a change in our atmosphere.

Let there be light also has to do with event horizons on black holes. As I said there are multiple meanings. For a child, the most simple literal meaning is all they need. Then as we grow and mature and become an adult we start to understand the deeper meaning and the deeper mysteries of God.

Even children understand Archetypes. That is what made Walt Disney so famous. Even today they are still going strong. You shut down their parks and they start a disney channel and they keep going strong. Because people from all cultures can relate to what they are doing.

 

[Diamond72]

And you're just mimicking what I just said, aren't you?

You remind me of a cat playing with a toy. You love to set people up.

 

[Diamond72]

You say and believe that the Earth was created 6000 years ago

His world was created 6,000 years ago. Don't confuse that with your world. You do not live in the same part of the world as he does.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

His world was created 6,000 years ago. Don't confuse that with your world. You do not live in the same part of the world as he does.

No, he thoroughly believes that OUR world was created 6,000 years ago.
For all things AV is, he is not that sort of solipsist.

 

[Diamond72]

the fossils were there on the first week of creation (4004 BC)

God did not just make Adam and Eve in 4004 BC. He made Eden along with all the plants and animals. There are professors at the University of Jerusalem with a PhD in Botney that can explain how the ancient plants in the Middle East became cultivated plants. We have plants here called Lilly. They grow wild in drainage ditches and they also are cultivated and growing in my yard. Eden was made up of domesticated animals and cultivated plants. They call this the neolithic revolution. This is the beginning of Civilization and Science Man went from a food gathering to a food producer. A lot of work has gone into understanding how civilization spread from the middle east to Europe and the rest of the world. Science has put a lot of study into this.

Back in the day of Bishop Ussher, 500 years ago they had very little of the knowledge and understanding we have now. His book basically begins with Genesis Chapter two with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. In the last 100 years there has been a lot of work done on archeology and they have a lot better understanding.

 

[AV1611VET]

You say and believe that the Earth was created 6000 years ago with the appearance and false history of it being 14.5 billion years old.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[Diamond72]

No, he thoroughly believes that OUR world was created 6,000 years ago.

He is from Guam and Guam was created 6,000 years ago. It basically did not exist before that. So he has no evidence in his world that it is older than 6,000 years. Of course, there are a lot of Filipinos in Guam. My father in law served in Guam during the war. Maybe he thinks Noah traveled around the world to drop them off there. Or maybe he thinks they swam there from the Middle East. I ran the DNA on my son. He has 3% middle east in him and that is mostly assyrian. So he does not appear to be a descendant of the Adam and Eve that we read about in the Bible.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thanks for the QED.

Show me where I was wrong in that sentence then.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

He is from Guam and Guam was created 6,000 years ago. It basically did not exist before that. So he has no evidence in his world that it is older than 6,000 years. Of course, there are a lot of Filipinos in Guam. My father in law served in Guam during the war. Maybe he thinks Noah traveled around the world to drop them off there. Or maybe he thinks they swam there from the Middle East. I ran the DNA on my son. He has 3% middle east in him and that is mostly assyrian. So he does not appear to be a descendant of the Adam and Eve that we read about in the Bible.

Your comments about your son and your father have no bearing on the topic that AV believes that OUR world was created 6,000 years ago. That is a fact, no matter how much he likes to dance around the issue.

 

[AV1611VET]

He is from Guam and Guam was created 6,000 years ago. It basically did not exist before that. So he has no evidence in his world that it is older than 6,000 years. Of course, there are a lot of Filipinos in Guam. My father in law served in Guam during the war. Maybe he thinks Noah traveled around the world to drop them off there. Or maybe he thinks they swam there from the Middle East. I ran the DNA on my son. He has 3% middle east in him and that is mostly assyrian. So he does not appear to be a descendant of the Adam and Eve that we read about in the Bible.

Chamorro

 

[AV1611VET]

Show me where I was wrong in that sentence then.

Hang on a minute.

 

[AV1611VET]

You say and believe that the Earth was created 6000 years ago with the appearance and false history of it being 14.5 billion years old.

There is no "false history."

Embedded Age = MATURITY WITHOUT HISTORY

You seem to think I'm either Omphalos or Last Thursday.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

There is no "false history."

Embedded Age = MATURITY WITHOUT HISTORY

You seem to think I'm either Omphalos or Last Thursday.

How, in what way, does 'maturity without history' not mean 'false history'?