Flood Geology

[AV1611VET]

What's going on here?
In that other thread I calculated your real age as being no more than 15 minutes based on stretching 6000 years to 13.7 billion years.
Now you have changed the parameters to 6021 years stretched out to 4.543 billion years which makes you no older than 45 minutes.

Frankly I have no time for people who lie about their age.

Merry Christmas!

 

[sjastro]

Merry Christmas!

And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, although I'm not sure which New Year is being referred to.

 

[AV1611VET]

And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, although I'm not sure which New Year is being referred to.

I'd like to end this year as friends, if that's possible.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Would you know it, if it was?

Try me. Why do you think your question is relevant?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Merry Christmas!

Try and be friendly all you want. Your idea is still wrong.

 

[sjastro]

I'd like to end this year as friends, if that's possible.

 

[doubtingmerle]

I'd like to end this year as friends, if that's possible.

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Merry Christmas.

 

[AV1611VET]

Merry Christmas.

You too!

 

[doubtingmerle]

I'd like to end this year as friends, if that's possible.

Dear AV1611VET,

Now that Christmas is past, can I say what I really think?

First, yes, we can be--and are--friends. You have consistently shown respect and engaged in civil discussion, even when things get tough. I have enjoyed some of your witty and informed posts. For that you are to be commended.

But there is a concern. Sometimes people use "let's be friends" to mean "Lets just respect all views." There I must draw the line. Although I respect you as a person, I cannot imply any merit to some of the views you have expressed here.

And it seems sometimes you may now agree. It seems that you know that the fossils could not have been there at creation. And you now know that they could not have been put there by the flood. And it seems you may now know that your recent view, that the fossils were deliberately arranged as they are as a result of a cleanup after a flood, also has no merit. And your latest explanations seem to be confused with no clear understanding of where you think those fossils came from.

Now what? You may be interested in this post: Knowing What You Know, Now What?

Any time you want to talk in private in confidence, please feel free to reach out.

Your friend,
Doubtingmerle

 

[AV1611VET]

Your friend,
Doubtingmerle

Sounds good, Merle. Thanks for the handshake and the friendly sentiments!

 

[Diamond72]

4.543 billion years.

The elements that make up the earth were created 12.7 billion years ago. The universe is expanding slightly faster than the speed of light. So we can still look and see the light from the Early Universe when God said: "Let there be light".

 

[AV1611VET]

The elements that make up the earth were created 12.7 billion years ago.

Either that, or they were created in 4004 BC.

 

[Diamond72]

(There was no year 0.)

That is because nothing does not exist. There is always something.

 

[Diamond72]

Either that, or they were created in 4004 BC.

Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden were created in 4004 BC. Genesis 2 "2 And by the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing". The word Finished is very important here. We only have 32 verses to work with and very few word, so we have to look at what those words mean.

I was a carpenter. When we build a house and we are finished - we hand the owner a key to their new house. It is a little absurd to say that we built the house and finished our work on the same day. Although that is possible, it is very difficult to get all the different people on the job doing the work all on the same day.

We are told in Isaiah 46: 10 "God declares the end from the beginning". We are told in Jeremiah 1:12 "I will hasten my word to perform it." God does what He says He will do. He watches to see that His words are fulfilled.

David tells us in Psalm 139:16 "Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them."

I had a dream about my daughter in Heaven and the angel assigned to her was reading her book that God had written to help her become the person God is Creating her to be. All of our DNA is there at conception. All of our gifts, talents and abilities and IQ is there from the beginning. We need to use all of what God has given us to bring Him praise, honor and glory.

God created man on the sixth day and put him in the garden on the eighth day. The eighth day was 4004 BC. The last 6 days were 1000 years and the first 7 days were 1000 year days. You can not call them 24 hour days unless you use the word "finished". Because there was a literal 24 hour day when God finished His work. Even then between day six when God created man and day 8 when God placed the man in the Garden of Eden we still have day 7 when God rested. God did not create man and put him in Garden on the same day.

 

[AV1611VET]

Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden were created in 4004 BC.

Focus please, Diamond.

I said the elements that made up the earth were created in 4004 BC.

Yes -- I agree with you.

Adam & Eve and the Garden of Eden were created in 4004 BC as well.

And so were the elements that make up the earth.

You think they were created 12,700,000,000 BC.

I think they were created 4004 BC.

 

[Diamond72]

You think they were created 12,700,000,000 BC.

I think they were created 12.7 billion light-years away. We can travel 12.7 light years in an instant, we are already there. Everything is connected. But it takes 12.7 billion light years for the matter to travel that far. There are wormholes but our physical body, the elements that make us up, can not travel faster than the speed of light.

You are looking from God's perspective, not ours. There is no time with Him. Also, you are looking at the beginning going forward. Not the end going back. Time is relative and it all depends on our viewpoint or perspective.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think they were created 12.7 billion light-years away.

I think the elements that created this earth were created right here, in the hollow of God's hand.

He then placed the earth in front of Him and let go of it, and it hung there -- rotating in empty space.

Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

After that, He created the rest of the universe up around the earth, using a series of miracles that raised the amount of mass/energy from zero to what it is today.

 

[Diamond72]

I think they were created 4004 BC.

What is your explanation for the dinosaurs?

 

[AV1611VET]

What is your explanation for the dinosaurs?

Dinosaurs boarded the Ark, along with others.

After the Flood, they disembarked, but couldn't handle the new climate, which went from a tropical paradise, to polar climatology.

They eventually died out, with a few exceptions, such as the Indians sighting a "Thunderbird."

They probably made their "last stand" in China, where they are incorporated extensively into Chinese culture -- especially the dragon.

 

[AV1611VET]

But this was all built on a flimsy basis. The model totally fails to predict the rock layers down there.

Don't take granite for time.