Damar Hamlin Collapse

[d taylor]

How many fall right in front of thousands of viewers on live television? That's probably a big factor in the public attention this is getting.

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That is right. My post was not against the football player, he was just playing a game he loves to play and had nothing to do with the overload of media attention this is getting.

 

[durangodawood]

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Just for perspective, how many professions (example police, etc..) who die in their work get this much attention.

When you work in entertainment (sports) people pay attention.

 

[Hans Blaster]

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Just for perspective, how many professions (example police, etc..) who die in their work get this much attention.

I guarantee you, if you watch the local TV news every night, you will hear about *every* cop (and likely firefighter) that died in the line of duty in your area. Now if it could only be said for roofers, a more deadly profession.

 

[rockytopva]

The play by play full broadcast…

Latest update from his uncle says he had to be resuscitated twice…

 

[Tuur]

I guarantee you, if you watch the local TV news every night, you will hear about *every* cop (and likely firefighter) that died in the line of duty in your area. Now if it could only be said for roofers, a more deadly profession.

It's still not the same level of attention, with media waiting outside hospitals trying to think of something to say to the cameras. Maybe part of it is that people "think" they know celebrities, so it's like something happened to someone they know.

Example: Decades ago now, at the start of a major league baseball game, an umpire had a heart attack and was taken to a hospital, where he later died. The incident led to changes in fitness requirements for umpires. But other than noting his passing and the subsequent changes, the media had little to say about it. But umpires aren't celebrities, and there wasn't that same level of interest.

 

[d taylor]

I guarantee you, if you watch the local TV news every night, you will hear about *every* cop (and likely firefighter) that died in the line of duty in your area. Now if it could only be said for roofers, a more deadly profession.

Will you hear about constantly, where every little detail is examined to death.

 

[d taylor]

When you work in entertainment (sports) people pay attention.

I will admit sports has done a very good job at selling their industry. If a product has been over hyped it is this industry.

 

[ozso]

I've heard of other instances of cardiac arrest occurring while playing sports. I doubt the sport itself caused the cardiac arrest. Could have been caused by an undiagnosed heart defect. Or medication/drugs.

 

[PsaltiChrysostom]

That night, the Cincinnati Skyline was lit up blue and red for Hamlin. Then outside of UC Medical Center

 

[Hans Blaster]

Will you hear about constantly, where every little detail is examined to death.

Only a very few shootings of officers (or shooting by officers) become national cause celeb and get that kind of national coverage (and note that as of this point, it happened less than 48 hours ago, attention will fade). It is my recollection that the updates of a shooting of an officer will repeatedly appear on the nightly (local) news (hospital updates, autopsy details, funeral plans, return to work, reporting about the incident, plus any trial).

Another way this is different is that the general public understands that sometimes cops get shot at and when bullets fly people get wounded and killed. The incident is shocking and tragic, but not super surprising when police encounter armed suspects. Football players get tacked all the time. At least a hundred similar seeming tackles happen in each game. There a dozen or so pro football games each weekend of the season, a few hundred college games, and thousands of HS games, each with about a hundred tackles and we *don't* expect a player to have his heart stop. (Players tear ligaments, break bones, and have concussions all the time from hits. We expect those. We can argue about protection and if there are too many. We *don't* expect a tackle to stop a player's heart because it is extremely rare.

That it happened on a nationally broadcast professional game made it more prominent. If it had been part of a D3 game recorded only for local TV, it would be noticed but not made such a deal of. The fame of the player and his team made it more noticed.

(I recall an incident involving a HS (I think) hockey goalie that was hit in the heart with a puck at just the wrong time and died.)

 

[Pommer]

I will admit sports has done a very good job at selling their industry. If a product has been over hyped it is this industry.

I going shopping whilst the Steelers are playing, just me and the foreigners!

 

[ToddNotTodd]

I've heard of other instances of cardiac arrest occurring while playing sports. I doubt the sport itself caused the cardiac arrest. Could have been caused by an undiagnosed heart defect. Or medication/drugs.

My "good, conservative Christian" family members sent me a meme today that implies that he had to have collapsed due to the COVID shot.

Because they're objectively terrible, horrible people...

 

[d taylor]

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I really wonder how popular sports would be without betting.

 

[Desk trauma]

My "good, conservative Christian" family members sent me a meme today that implies that he had to have collapsed due to the COVID shot.

Because they're objectively terrible, horrible people...

The antivaxx-memes showed up before the ambulance.

 

[rambot]

There is a specific kind of heart attack ( commotio cordis ) where your heart stops beating because contact was made at JUST the right spot at JUST the right place in the heart rhythm. If I recall high school science, it disrupts the sino atrial node (the place where the electric pulse is shot through the heart, causing the pump.

 

[rambot]

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I really wonder how popular sports would be without betting.

Part of me wonders whether the whole sociological role of it is to replace major conflict and war.

 

[DaisyDay]

My "good, conservative Christian" family members sent me a meme today that implies that he had to have collapsed due to the COVID shot.

Because they're objectively terrible, horrible people...

Twitter is awash with it.

 

[d taylor]

Only a very few shootings of officers (or shooting by officers) become national cause celeb and get that kind of national coverage (and note that as of this point, it happened less than 48 hours ago, attention will fade). It is my recollection that the updates of a shooting of an officer will repeatedly appear on the nightly (local) news (hospital updates, autopsy details, funeral plans, return to work, reporting about the incident, plus any trial).

Another way this is different is that the general public understands that sometimes cops get shot at and when bullets fly people get wounded and killed. The incident is shocking and tragic, but not super surprising when police encounter armed suspects. Football players get tacked all the time. At least a hundred similar seeming tackles happen in each game. There a dozen or so pro football games each weekend of the season, a few hundred college games, and thousands of HS games, each with about a hundred tackles and we *don't* expect a player to have his heart stop. (Players tear ligaments, break bones, and have concussions all the time from hits. We expect those. We can argue about protection and if there are too many. We *don't* expect a tackle to stop a player's heart because it is extremely rare.

That it happened on a nationally broadcast professional game made it more prominent. If it had been part of a D3 game recorded only for local TV, it would be noticed but not made such a deal of. The fame of the player and his team made it more noticed.

(I recall an incident involving a HS (I think) hockey goalie that was hit in the heart with a puck at just the wrong time and died.)

Yes all the right cards were in place for this to be huge and it was.

 

[Tuur]

My "good, conservative Christian" family members sent me a meme today that implies that he had to have collapsed due to the COVID shot.

Because they're objectively terrible, horrible people...

Perhaps. They also may be convinced that was the cause, as that has been one reaction. But reactions closely follow what caused them, and they seem to be what some experience with actual COVID-19, which also closely follow the disease.

 

[Tuur]

There is a specific kind of heart attack ( commotio cordis ) where your heart stops beating because contact was made at JUST the right spot at JUST the right place in the heart rhythm. If I recall high school science, it disrupts the sino atrial node (the place where the electric pulse is shot through the heart, causing the pump.

Um...it's speculated that this caused his heart to go into fibrilization, but I don't think that's been released as definite. Sometimes it seems to happen out of the blue to those who never suspected they had heart problems.